Marrying a useless. Western or foreign. Whats the difference ?

**socal** · 23-05-2012, 06:18 PM

I don't know what the discussion on the other thread has evolved into but I have a question... Considering the title.

There is allot of educated and uneducated western women that hold minimum wage, go nowhere jobs. Wading tables, bank tellers, clerks, secretaries , bartenders, hairstylists ect. They make on average about 25 to 35,000 a year. At least the uneducated ones don't come saddled with the $15,000 to 150,000 dollars in full recourse student debt.

So if you get involved with a western woman with a shitty, go nowhere job, is it any different then getting involved with a mail order type bride from another country ? Who can do these shitty jobs just as good, if not better then the western woman ?

Considering the high cost of living in the west, these shitty jobs add up to very little and these girls are increasingly turning to pregnancy to get out of them. Basically what I am saying is that there is no difference between marrying a western woman or a mail order bride financially speaking.

Guys have to turn to gold digging here locally(west). There is some girls that do make it through and land a decent job here ; either through education or just being at the right place at the right time. Some girls can land office jobs in small companies in niche markets that make allot of money. If they are good at it and they are liked then they can make around $50,000 a year which is worthwhile.

So flame away you fucks that think the majority of western women are all "educated" and superior to foreign women. Most of them are just as useless as any foreigner. That's how it is on the ground. Maybe some of the posters in the 35 and under can relate to this.

**aging one** · 23-05-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by socal

So flame away you fucks that think the majority of western women are all "educated" and superior to foreign women. Most of them are just as useless as any foreigner. That's how it is on the ground. Maybe some of the posters in the 35 and under can relate to this.

What does this have to do with Pattaya being a clean beach? What exactly are you on about now?

**socal** · 23-05-2012, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Originally Posted by socal

So flame away you fucks that think the majority of western women are all "educated" and superior to foreign women. Most of them are just as useless as any foreigner. That's how it is on the ground. Maybe some of the posters in the 35 and under can relate to this.

What does this have to do with Pattaya being a clean beach? What exactly are you on about now?

aging one.. this topic is relevant to guys that are possibly looking to settle down with someone for the first time.

It has to do with the fact that allot of 50+ kunts like you think that there is multitudes of educated western women running around making 80,000 a year these days.

**aging one** · 23-05-2012, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by socal

aging one.. this topic is relevant to guys that are possibly looking to settle down with someone for the first time. It has to do with the fact that allot of 50+ kunts like you think that there is multitudes of educated western women running around making 80,000 a year these days.

There are its that simple. I will bow out now. As it will get personal and this is not the time or place. In sincerity enjoy your thread. Adios.

**superman** · 23-05-2012, 06:51 PM

Turn gay. Or are the men just as bad ?

**baldrick** · 23-05-2012, 07:12 PM

go to india

**harrybarracuda** · 23-05-2012, 07:26 PM

Fucking hell, Socal, you really hate proper women, don't you?

**ChrisM** · 23-05-2012, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by superman

Turn gay. Or are the men just as bad ?

Who would get the children if Elton divorced David?

**Kwang** · 23-05-2012, 07:33 PM

^ Socal

**OhOh** · 23-05-2012, 07:35 PM

I would comment, but I am in your banned age bracket.

**Kwang** · 23-05-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by socal

Basically what I am saying is that there is no difference between marrying a western woman or a mail order bride

The only Mail Order to Socal's home comes via Fed Ex

**barbaro** · 23-05-2012, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by socal

I don't know what the discussion on the other thread has evolved into but I have a question... Considering the title.

There is allot of educated and uneducated western women that hold minimum wage, go nowhere jobs. Wading tables, bank tellers, clerks, secretaries , bartenders, hairstylists ect. They make on average about 25 to 35,000 a year. At least the uneducated ones don't come saddled with the $15,000 to 150,000 dollars in full recourse student debt.

True, there are a lot of them.

[B]So if you get involved with a western woman with a shitty, go nowhere job, is it any different then getting involved with a mail order type bride from another country ? Who can do these shitty jobs just as good, if not better then the western woman ?

Note the part in bold.[/i] Is it any different.

First, it's about qualifying. Qualify, qualify, qualify.

Is this girl (with shitty dead end job and perhaps debt) honest? Have a sense of humour? Loyal? Share the same goals as you? Enjoy truly being with you?

For someone from your same country, it is easier to qualify a "yes" or a "no" because you have more time to be together, you can meet her family and friends and you share the same culture and language.

The same questions I asked apply to a foreign mail-order bride. However it is more difficult to qualify.

Another factor is the big-all: is she primarily interested in getting out of her country and into your country and getting US citizenship more so than sharing her life with you?

Can you know her family well? Her friends? Language is different. Culture.

The foreign bride has many additional things that you will not be able to know clearly or know as well as a local.

But of course, you can find honest and loyal sincere wives all over the world.

So flame away you fucks that think the majority of western women are all "educated" and superior to foreign women. Most of them are just as useless as any foreigner. That's how it is on the ground. Maybe some of the posters in the 35 and under can relate to this.

Some generalizations there, but that's all we can do.

And what is, "educated" these days.

Either way, it seems the guy gets fucked if things go south.

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**Bettyboo** · 23-05-2012, 08:57 PM

Question: What do Socal and Rawlins have in common?

Answer:

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b)

c)

**socal** · 24-05-2012, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fucking hell, Socal, you really hate proper women, don't you?

fucknuts. What is that supposed to mean ? I kept a part out just to cuz I didnt want to hear the nbullshit. My current GF is the one who makes 50k a year for a small company. She is an admin assistant for a company that tests and maintains main electrical hookups for huge gas and coal plants and shit. I have other issues with her but her job is definitely on her plus side.

this has fuck all to do with hating "proper " women. whatever proper is

**socal** · 24-05-2012, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

I would comment, but I am in your banned age bracket.

Put yourself in the shoes of a guy that is looking to settle down in this worldwide economic wasteland.

**ShrewedPunter** · 24-05-2012, 04:32 AM

I know loads of girls with "shitty, go nowhere job", most lead good western lives with their boyfriends..

own place, car, holidays etc

The more i think about it, i think the more I'd rather have a western woman, i can mutually understand 100% and have an intelligent conversation with.of course when you're aging or just romantically challenged its quite difficult to secure what we all want - slim attractive woman

I understand some of you oldies have taken a rather large hit on the intelligence / maturity levels to get a slim, attractive (ish) piece of pussy on tap.

**socal** · 24-05-2012, 04:47 AM

[quote=barbaro;2107991]

Originally Posted by socal

I don't know what the discussion on the other thread has evolved into but I have a question... Considering the title.

There is allot of educated and uneducated western women that hold minimum wage, go nowhere jobs. Wading tables, bank tellers, clerks, secretaries , bartenders, hairstylists ect. They make on average about 25 to 35,000 a year. At least the uneducated ones don't come saddled with the $15,000 to 150,000 dollars in full recourse student debt.

True, there are a lot of them.

[b]So if you get involved with a western woman with a shitty, go nowhere job, is it any different then getting involved with a mail order type bride from another country ? Who can do these shitty jobs just as good, if not better then the western woman ?

Note the part in bold.[/i] Is it any different.

First, it's about qualifying. Qualify, qualify, qualify.

Is this girl (with shitty dead end job and perhaps debt) honest? Have a sense of humour? Loyal? Share the same goals as you? Enjoy truly being with you?

Yes, there is decent girls here with the dead end job that could be honest and half decent. They seem to be the ones that want the big family the most too. Which means, off to work for another 30 years because they are bringinng nothing to the table.

For someone from your same country, it is easier to qualify a "yes" or a "no" because you have more time to be together, you can meet her family and friends and you share the same culture and language.

. It would be harder for a foreign bride but I was mainly talking about the financial situation. The foreign bride might be more frugal and probably better looking too though.

The same questions I asked apply to a foreign mail-order bride. However it is more difficult to qualify.

Another factor is the big-all: is she primarily interested in getting out of her country and into your country and getting US citizenship more so than sharing her life with you?

That is the wildcard with foreign women. Some are visa chasers, some are not. Although most of the horror stories you hear is when the guy is 60 and the woman is 23. And western women have bad attitudes and bad eating habits. That is their wildcard.

Can you know her family well? Her friends? Language is different. Culture.

The foreign bride has many additional things that you will not be able to know clearly or know as well as a local.

But of course, you can find honest and loyal sincere wives all over the world.

And what is, "educated" these days.

Either way, it seems the guy gets fucked if things go south.

Your points are valid. The main crux of this post is to show, contrary to popular belief, that financially , the majority of western women have as little to bring to the table as any foreign woman.

**socal** · 24-05-2012, 04:51 AM

[quote=ShrewedPunter;2108171]

I know loads of girls with "shitty, go nowhere job", most lead good western lives with their boyfriends..

own place, car, holidays etc

I do too. How many have kids ?

and have an intelligent conversation with.

Aha ! There is the bullshit bias that I am talking about. "Educated" right ? Are they really smarter then a foreigner ? I dont think so. There jobs sure dont bear that out.

**OhOh** · 24-05-2012, 08:09 AM

Most western countries females, in your implied age group, have progressed through an environment where sex has become an irrelevance for many occupations. This is a recent phenomenon for them and some are struggling to find the "correct" space/relationship for themselves. Males are themselves having to adjust to sharing the role of provider. Some enjoy this, some because of their parents relationship and their peer group, have difficulty.

Your assumption that because a woman is a foreigner therefore she is dumb betrays your lack of experience. They may not have the skill sets you are expecting, having been raised in some cases in what you consider an alien environment, but skills they most certainly have or can acquire them easily. There are plenty of "foreign" graduates from world class universities so it's not lack of intelligence.

If the couple are insistent on a hiso life style they both may sacrifice other areas of life. Meeting a "local" woman means that there will be many more "shared" expectations ahead which may or may not lead to a long term relationship. Hooking up with a foreign partner will always bring trying experiences but for many people this is exactly what, at the time, attracted them to each other.

I suggest that you stop worrying about life and just go with the flow. Nobody except yourself really gives a damn. Your family will always be there for you, your friends will change over time. The days when people were ostracised if their marriage failed or fall for someone of your own sex have thankfully gone. One day you will meet someone who is "just right" for you and you will love it. Forget the trimmings of there career, their background, their race, colour or god forbid a Brummie accent.

As for money just keep stacking those gold bars, they'll see you right.

**nidhogg** · 24-05-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by OhOh

I would comment, but I am in your banned age bracket.

Put yourself in the shoes of a guy that is looking to settle down in this worldwide economic wasteland.

If you are an american, nearly 50% of new marriages end in divorce. Marry em poor, marry em rich, marry em educated, marry em dumb.

Aint no difference.

Stop trying to shave the odds, and look at the person - not their job/status/money. Only question is - who are you prepared to take a gamble with - and go from there.

**kingwilly** · 24-05-2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by socal

My current GF is the one who makes 50k a year for a small company. She is an admin assistant for a company that tests and maintains main electrical hookups for huge gas and coal plants and shit. I have other issues with her but her job is definitely on her plus side. this has fuck all to do with hating "proper " women. whatever proper is

What does she think of what you write on TeakDoor ?

**Kwang** · 24-05-2012, 10:09 AM

^ You don't really believe that twat has a girlfriend, do ya ?

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

She is an admin assistant for a company that tests and maintains main electrical hookups for huge gas and coal plants

That would never fetch 50 k unless its Thai Baht he's talkin about.
An admin manager wouldn't even fetch that in the UK now

**HansuMan** · 24-05-2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

What does she think of what you write on TeakDoor ?

She digs on Commander Chickenhawk The Clairvoyant One's "strength" in taking one ridiculous hypocritical stance after the next, and standing by them (see siggy).

ZioNazi Bolshevik Keyboard Commando Chickenhawks just make her moist...

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**harrybarracuda** · 24-05-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by socal

this has fuck all to do with hating "proper " women. whatever proper is

In your case, ones that don't require inflation.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-05-2012, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Kwang

^ You don't really believe that twat has a girlfriend, do ya ?

If he ever gets his legover with a real woman, it would be some brainless. frumpy plumper that stacks shelves at Tesco. And he'd have to get her drunk first.

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