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    Sterling

    with news the pound is gaining, on the Euro.

    Can we expect the pound in Thailand to make significant gains ?

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    Are you aware of the state of the UK economy??? Only way you are going to get a weaker Thai Baht compared to the pound is if Thailand starts devalueing the baht.

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    The Pound and the Euro are locked into a currency war where both the UK and the EU attempt to get a lower value for their currency than the other to make exports more attractive. (It's a regressive policy where no-one really benefits apart from international currency traders.)

    Thailand has no need to enter into a currency war with either the Pound or the Euro, or for that matter any other country. As long as it's currency remains steady people will continue to buy its main exports.
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    Yes i am aware of the state of UK economy, though then analysts say how sterling is a safe haven, pounds gained against dollar euro etc, and some small gains on the baht recently however small.

    I am not predicting anything, the markets move in mysterious ways.

    will the olympics have a impact on the pound, have previous olympics had a impact on the countries currencies.?



    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Are you aware of the state of the UK economy??? Only way you are going to get a weaker Thai Baht compared to the pound is if Thailand starts devalueing the baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    The Pound and the Euro are locked into a currency war where both the UK and the EU attempt to get a lower value for their currency than the other to make exports more attractive.
    the reason for the gain in the apprent value of the pound against the Euro is that the Eurozone is in some turmoil, particularly wrt Greece and the new Frenchman

    nothing to do with currency wars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    I am not predicting anything, the markets move in mysterious ways.
    correct!

    sterling may have made some short term gains against the dollar, but both currencies are weak due to over-printing (Quantitative Easing!)

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    Surely the Euro must suffer from the Greece and France political uncertainty.

    I doubt we'll see the 81 baht to the pound I was getting on my first trip here, & that's when Thailand was cheep for Thais...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    I doubt we'll see the 81 baht to the pound I was getting on my first trip here, & that's when Thailand was cheep for Thais...
    I doubt it as well, unless the floods retrun and keep coming

    then a major tsunami, then storms and hurricanes

    etc

    or, more likely, a military takeover and they fuk up the economy as per usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post

    nothing to do with currency wars
    Really..?

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    Spain could well have a big effect also on the Euro.

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    I think speculators are also a tad worried about what happens if Greece tells Merkel to shove her euro up her arse.

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    Angela Merkel arrives in Greece to discuss the European debt crisis and is asked at passport control: "occupation?"

    To which she replies, "no, just visiting".

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    heres a prediction

    Pound Sterling Forecast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Spain could well have a big effect also on the Euro.

    yes, they are in the queue along with Portugal and Italy

    maybe the Euro will get to 1.45 to the pound? or even parity with that US dollar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post

    nothing to do with currency wars
    Really..?
    yes; if you don't think so please give us a few solid links


    so yes, really

    the UK is not an exporting country any more so there would be little point

    all it would do would be to make imports more expensive

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    Wake up Andy. You know dick about international monetary exchange.

    Yes there is a crisis in the Euro, but the fact that it's is in reality worthless and that the PIGS may default on their theoretical debt, has very little effect on the exchange rate between the £ and Euro, if their real worth were the true value of the exchange rate both currencies would have collapsed long ago.

    The only real value left in the exchange rate mechanism is the chimera that a lower rate will improve exports which affords the opportunity to make money from money, or in reality electronic profit out of a fictional electronic value.

    The disparity between either currency will never be that great, but the small shifts between the two values will always be enough to generate a good profit for the minority that control it.

    The Thai Baht is a completely different game than the £ or Euro, and while the latter are forced to compete for a lower rate, the Baht will continue to be strong in relation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Wake up Andy. You know dick about international monetary exchange.
    absolutely correct; I was only talking about the GBpound and the Euro, with a bit of dollar thrown in to keep you happy



    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Yes there is a crisis in the Euro, but the fact that it's is in reality worthless and that the PIGS may default on their theoretical debt, has very little effect on the exchange rate between the £ and Euro, if their real worth were the true value of the exchange rate both currencies would have collapsed long ago.
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    make a short term killing off the backs of armchair pundits
    so, who made the short term killing, you or them? sit back and enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by "Bettyboo"
    I doubt we'll see the 81 baht to the pound I was getting on my first trip here, & that's when Thailand was cheep for Thais...
    I doubt it as well, unless the floods retrun and keep coming

    then a major tsunami, then storms and hurricanes

    etc

    or, more likely, a military takeover and they fuk up the economy as per usual
    While in broad agreement markets like stability and after all the coups the baht has returned to tracking ts key shadow the Kwai (RMB) ,Euro and American currencies are in long term decline due to their debts and preference for state rather than family or community provided welfare or lack of it.Pension liabilities can only be offset by mass immigration or large families which are both out of vogue with graduate western women.Being a housewife,mum or homemaker has been devalued with inevitable corollary. For all its ills economic corrution and planning local resilience and low expectations of the state makes locals accept private wealth and public squalor.From all I read the West is catching up.
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    well RBS seems to have made a killing in the last couple of years, there near to bankrupt, govt bails them out and loans them 100 billion, and now Royal bank scotland reports last week they have paid back the 100 billion and no longer need state handouts financial crisis what crisis, was it a self made crisis LOL

    Tell you what i not know anything about the financial sector, but i smell a rat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    I doubt we'll see the 81 baht to the pound I was getting on my first trip here, & that's when Thailand was cheep for Thais...
    I doubt it as well, unless the floods retrun and keep coming

    then a major tsunami, then storms and hurricanes

    etc

    or, more likely, a military takeover and they fuk up the economy as per usual
    Since the last coup had little effect I shouldn't think the next will have much impact.

    Currencies are a reflection of their economies but central fiscal intervention can mask their true worth. Britain's £ was unrealistically high against a basket of currencies in the early - mid noughties when the then uncontrolled banking scam was in full flow. The BoE's concern was inflation entering the system and it's main tool to reduce any impact was the fixing of the interest rates which compared to the Eurozone et al were quite high. This favoured sterling and flattered to deceive to the point it bought 2$uS and on average 72 bt. The banking collapse precipitated the lurch to zero rates and the £ found its true level reflecting the recession in the economy and public debt levels which could not be offset by the fall in revenues.

    Thailand is not in this position - yet.

    AFAIK Thai sovereign debt is quite low and its economy continues to expand but the explosion of credit as a means of funding the current building boom will inevitably contribute to inflation. Hitherto, public expenditure has been low in comparison to more developed societies but that trend is reversing steadily as the Thai finally address the social infrastructure needs. Debt will inevitably be incurred but if a balance is not maintained through growth, either because of economic shocks to the system or if the economy becomes uncompetitive, then eventually its currency will be devalued.

    Whether or not a general or a faux democrat is running the show matters not although in economic terms the baht is more likely to remain strong for longer if the lumpen masses are kept firmly in their place and continue to be paid peanuts for their labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Since the last coup had little effect I shouldn't think the next will have much impact
    I said military takeover, when the military actually run the country, not some political coup

    the last military takeover led to the baht being around 90 to the pound at one stage, which was nice

    the rest is waffle, coming from a person who can't even afford to live in a country of his choice
    I have reported your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    coming from a person who can't even afford to live in a country of his choice
    like yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post

    the rest is waffle, coming from a person who can't even afford to live in a country of his choice
    Given it would be Singapore I rather think I share my disappointment with several others about the region.....

    You are quite thick, aren't you?

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    seems that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    with news the pound is gaining, on the Euro.

    Can we expect the pound in Thailand to make significant gains ?
    No since it is not the pound getting stronger it is the euro getting weaker and that doesn't change the GBP-THB exchange rate much.
    You'll have to wait until the day the GBP gets stronger by itself..

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