Thread: Compelling Reasons for Religion

Originally Posted by Butterfly

but there is a true God, and not a religious one but obviously this is beyond the topic of this thread,

there is no proof of that, you just want to believe it otherwise your existence has no meaning

which is true

Originally Posted by Lambik

So, according to you, Butterfly, there is one true god, how can you know/proof that the other gods are not true or even not exist.

all gods are true, and none of them exist

a bit like paradise, it is not true but it exists

Originally Posted by Lambik

how can you know/proof that the other gods are not true or even not exist.

because they are based on myths and lies, not logic

logic is the path to God,

Originally Posted by DrAndy

there is no proof of that,

there is actually,

Originally Posted by DrAndy

your existence has no meaning

there is no existence without God,

there is no existence without God,

First Known Use of EXISTENCE

14th century ( Existence - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary )

So, no existence of your god before the 14th. century.

God is off topic.

Originally Posted by Lambik

there is no existence without God,

First Known Use of EXISTENCE

14th century ( Existence - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary )

So, no existence of your god before the 14th. century.

do we need words for something to exist already ? what century did we have words for atoms or other quantum particles ? I guess they didn't exist before that

Originally Posted by Butterfly

do we need words for something to exist already ?

do i need thoughts when i see a bus travelling at 200 kmh towards me ?

absolutly not,, you simply act.
or you're history.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

what century did we have words for atoms or other quantum particles ? I guess they didn't exist before that

if you have no concept of something, it does not exist

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Butterfly

but there is a true God, and not a religious one but obviously this is beyond the topic of this thread,

there is no proof of that, you just want to believe it otherwise your existence has no meaning

which is true

Originally Posted by DrAndy

if you have no concept of something, it does not exist

ah, here we go, so existence comes from belief ? so if we don't believe in the universe, there is no universe, and we don't exist

you are talking about something which does have a concept, so your argument is false

you cannot give an example of something which you have no concept of

^idiot

Agree.

^ and ^^

what do you not have any concept of?

who are the idiots now?

at least BF can understand a fallacious argument

destroyed again bENT

and your usual riposte

very intelligent

Santa Claus doesn't exist.

Oh wait, that must mean he does exist.

Cool. You owe me presents you fat cnut.

Santa is the universe and without Santa there is no existence.

Knew it all along.

yeah, except Santa has nothing to do with a God concept

why say Santa ? say Rabbit instead, or Cow

nothing should stop you to put words together

Originally Posted by DrAndy

you cannot give an example of something which you have no concept of

ok we are going in circles now,

are you saying we have no concept of God or existence ? you know this is not true,

mandy, is the bogeyman still in your wardrobe?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

yeah, except Santa has nothing to do with a God concept

why say Santa ? say Rabbit instead, or Cow

nothing should stop you to put words together

I never suggested Santa does have anything to do with god. I'm suggesting instead that it has everything to do with complete and utter bollocks.

What makes the concept of Santa any different from the concept of god?

^ you are missing the point, again.

let me make an analogy for you,

You are a monkey and you are trying to make sense of the scripture you found on a spaceship, and then because you can't read or make sense of them, you ignore them or your brain make you claim they don't exist. Then you climb back in your tree to finish eating your peanuts.

is that more clear now ?