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    Mind you Bob, he has better batting stats than your beloved beefy

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    beloved Beefy?

    Botham's stats are not as good as the talent, but stats don't always tell the true story.... after all Mitchell Starc a genuine World World Class bowler averages 31+ in Test Cricket..... 2 runs worse than shithouse Jimmy Anderson....

    Of course you can't name a test match that Watson ever won single handedly with bat and ball can you?

    I can think of 4 for Beefy off the top of my head.

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    True stats don't tell the full story.

    Watson had the best batting average for a test opener from 2009-2011 at 54'ish but as the Australian team was at a low point during that time his efforts were never really acknowledged.

    As for Starc he is still undercooked with the red ball as was aparent in the Ashes. He and our other new quicks still need experience on different pitches in various conditions before they master their red ball skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    As for Starc he is still undercooked with the red ball as was aparent in the Ashes. He and our other new quicks still need experience on different pitches in various conditions before they master their red ball skills
    Ah yes I remember now..... you said all that before the Ashes.....

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    ^ No I didn't. I said it will be interesting to see how he bowls with the red ball afte such a great WC - though I wasn't even sure he would get a chance as he was more or less a back up bowler who only played the full series because Harris dropped out.

    You poms are unreal - even when you win you still feel the need to tell porkies

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    England pull one back in Manchester rout

    Jesse Hogan 6:33 AM The least dazzling batsman on show at Old Trafford on Tuesday, England's James Taylor, was rewarded for being the only one diligent enough to build a match-winning innings.



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    2 great pommy catches lastnight

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    https://au.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/...et-retirement/
    Haddin confirms Test cricket retirement

    Veteran Australian wicketkeeper Brad Haddin has confirmed his retirement from Test cricket.
    Haddin announced on Wednesday he has ended his international and domestic first-class career but will still play Twenty20 for the Sydney Sixers in the Big Bash League.
    Haddin was controversially left out of the third Ashes Test against England at Trent Bridge last month after being granted permission to miss the second Test to be with his sick daughter.
    NSW gloveman Peter Nevill took over for the rest of the Test series.
    The 37-year-old Haddin played 66 Tests since 2008, making 3266 runs at an average of 32.98 and taking 262 catches.

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    Quoted as saying he 'lost the hunger' on the ashes tour.

    Unfortunate time to decide you're not interested anymore.

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    That was not considered an acceptable thing when Swann did it.......

    Lucky some of us are mature enough to understand......

    Mind you they kinda took the hunger away from him, dropping him for going to see his sick daughter.

    What Carnts

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    He said he was going to retire before the tour though he was probably going to get dropped anyway - Neville has made sure he retires - but the guy is 37 and if Neville didn't get a chance there are at least 3 more guys that have been banging the door down too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    That was not considered an acceptable thing when Swann did it.......

    Lucky some of us are mature enough to understand......
    And Swann had a career ending injury, yet some on here made a song and dance about it for months.

    Puerile in the extreme.

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    Australian Test squad for Bangladesh :
    SQUAD: Steve Smith (c), Adam Voges (vc), Cameron Bancroft, Joe Burns, Patrick Cummins, Andrew Fekete, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Peter Nevill, Stephen O'Keefe, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc

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    They could be in with a chance.

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    If it's in Convictland.

    In Banglaland, they will lose, again...

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    So Hazlewood has got the chop?

    Quite right too. He was dire.

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    ^ hazelwood is a young player who was perhaps given too much responsibility whith Harris' sudden departure .... but keep whinging if it makes you happy cyrille - you guys do have bragging rights so knock yourself out ...

    In other cricket news, Chris Gayle has a strip club in his bedroom!!!
    https://instagram.com/p/7jQ5NGoeSp/

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    Whinging?

    How on earth am I 'whinging'?

    Thanks for the hilariously long winded way of saying 'yeah...he was really shit' though.

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    And it's spelled Hazlewood.


    fyi

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    "Spin's going to be an issue for England against Pakistan" : Kevin Pietersen

    "Spin's going to be an issue for England against Pakistan" : Kevin Pietersen

    Kevin Pietersen believes England's ability to play spin and take wickets in UAE conditions will be put under the microscope during the upcoming Test series against Pakistan.The former England batsman, who last played for his country in January 2014, feels Alastair Cook's men will arrive in the UAE next week in confident mood following their Ashes triumph on home soil but will be more than aware of the challenges ahead over the next two months.

    In an exclusive interview with Sport360, England's all-time leading run-scorer across all formats is expecting a competitive three Test matches this time around - given England's last trip to this part of the world ended in a 3-0 series defeat in 2012.

    "They've got momentum for sure and they're going to need it because it's quite difficult to play Pakistan here," Pietersen said. "Spin's going to be an issue for England."

    "There was also a little bit of a setback for England with the little young Surrey spinner Zafar Ansari missing out on the tour due to injury.

    "Spin will be an issue for England in the bowling department and playing against spin but there are some wonderful batters in that side. We've got to get twenty wickets for sure but we've got to bat well here," the 35-year-old said.

    The inclusion of Yorkshire leg-spinner Adil Rashid in England's 16-man squad for the tour will give the tourists more options on subcontinent style tracks, adding to the presence of all-rounder Moeen Ali - who himself is jostling for the opening batting berth alongside Test new recruit Alex Hales.

    "He's going to have to (Rashid have a role to play) - England are going to have to play two to three spinners out here so he'll definitely have to come and deliver because it's going to be tough going. The Pakistanis play spin incredibly well so it's going to be an interesting series, a very interesting one.

    "He (Hales) is a positive player. I don't know who's going to open with Cook in the first Test match so we'll just have to wait and see."

    And Pietersen also singled out Ashes Player of the Series, Joe Root, as one man who could thrive this winter and has all the attributes to captain England sooner rather than later.

    "I mean people talk about it. He's got a great head on his shoulders. I think you wouldn't want to burden him with it right now but for sure in the future."
    Having recently admitted England director of cricket and former team-mate Andrew Strauss made the right decision not to recall him to the international fold, it came as no surprise to Pietersen that England won back the coveted Ashes Urn.

    "I wasn't surprised because I know how much talent there is in that dressing room. When you put all that talent together good things will happen. I was very, very happy to see the youngsters play well and good to see them win."

    Meanwhile, now that Pietersen's England return ambitions are all but over, the explosive batsman has a busy few months ahead as a freelance Twenty20 cricketer.

    The four-time Ashes winner will play for the Durban-based Dolphins in South Africa next month as part of their T20 offering before travelling to UAE to play in the inaugural Pakistan Super League next February as well as the Big Bash in Australia.

    Pietersen still relishes the opportunity to compete at the highest level and is particularly excited by Pakistan's first instalment of a short-form extravaganza.
    Source: http://sport360.com/article/internat...evin-pietersen

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    Finally KP finds his spiritual home.

    The Pakistan Super League.

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    The OZ press are reporting that the tour of Bangladesh is off due to security concerns.
    Looks like they join the Pakis in no home games.

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    Last I read it was just the player's departure that had been delayed.

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    Australia vs England ODI series: Player ratings

    Pat Cummins and Mitch Marsh had breakout series as Australia defeated England in the five-match ODI tournament this week. Here’s how I rated the players from both sides, with a combined XI also selected.


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    Pat Cummins (9/10) – 12 wickets at an average of 20. His terrifying pace, consistently in the high 140s and up to 155kmh, spawned the headlines, yet it was his accuracy, variety and guile which impressed me most.

    Mitch Marsh (8.5/10) – 134 runs at 45, plus eight wickets at 24. Marsh won the official man-of-the-series award. He was influential in all three of Australia’s wins, smacking a quickfire 40 not-out in the first 0DI, swinging the match with 64 from just 31 balls in the second match and then skittling England with 4-27 in the deciding fifth game.

    Glenn Maxwell (8.5/10) – 166 runs at 42, plus six wickets at 30. His runs came at a phenomenal strike rate of 129, his bowling was very effective and his fielding extraordinary. Maxwell is now competing with James Faulkner and Sri Lanka’s Angelo Mathews for the title of the world’s best ODI all-rounder.

    Aaron Finch (7/10) – 138 runs at 69. Finch is a crucial cog in Australia’s top order and rebounded strongly here after a mediocre World Cup.

    George Bailey (7/10) – 218 runs at 55. His stats look great but Bailey often struggled for fluency and put pressure on his batting partner with his slow scoring. Bailey’s strike rate of 76 this series is unacceptable in modern ODIs.

    Matthew Wade (6/10) – 164 runs at 82, plus 10 catches. The Victorian was sensational with the blade, cracking his 164 runs from 119 balls and playing well in pressure situations. Those efforts were tainted however by his keeping, which still is below par. A 9/10 with the bat and 3/10 with the gloves.

    John Hastings (5.5/10) – Three wickets at 26 from two matches. Hastings’ bowling was clattered in his first match but he made up for that with a crucial 34 not-out plus a brilliant spell in the fifth ODI.

    Steve Smith (5/10) – 156 runs at 31. Started well with 44 and 70 in the first two matches before his returns dwindled.

    David Warner (5/10) – 60 runs at 60. A fractured thumb robbed Australia of their well-established opening partnership, with Joe Burns unable to step up. Warner’s absence will be keenly felt next month in Bangladesh.

    Shane Watson (5/10) – 45 runs at 22, plus two wickets at 19. Bowled very well in the first match, taking 2-39 from eight overs, and made a handy run-a-ball 39 in the second game.

    Ashton Agar (5/10) – two wickets at 28. A limited sample size, bowling only 11 overs, but Agar’s talent and potential are plain to see. For a 21-year-old spinner he possesses wonderful control.

    Mitchell Starc (4/10) – five wickets at 43. A very rare bad series for the best limited overs bowler in the world.

    Joe Burns (1/10) – 77 runs at 15. Handed a golden opportunity to open in all five matches but muffed it with some poor shot selection.

    Marcus Stoinis (1/10) – four runs and no wickets. A left-field selection for this series and the one-off T20 match, and had a nightmare in both appearances.

    James Pattinson (1/10) – zero wickets. Looked physically strong after a long injury layoff and operated with encouraging express pace. His control was shocking though and he leaked boundaries taking 0-109 from his 15 overs.

    England
    Eoin Morgan (8.5/10) – 278 runs at 69. A class player in rampant form.

    James Taylor (8/10) – 246 runs at 49. Compact and consistent, he deserves a long stint in both ODIs and Tests.

    Jason Roy (7/10) – 201 runs at 40. Exciting and very talented, he was not flustered by Australia’s express pace.

    David Willey (6.5/10) – four wickets at 16. Added variety to England’s attack despite his glacial pace.

    Adil Rashid (6.5/10) – seven wickets at 34. His attacking leg spin can be a great weapon for England.

    Moeen Ali (6/10) – six wickets at 34. An overrated batsman but an improving offie.

    Liam Plunkett (4.5/10) – five wickets at 30. Not an international-standard bowler.

    Steven Finn (4.5/10) – four wickets at 35. Very gifted and can be a star, but had an ordinary series.

    Ben Stokes (4.5/10) – 120 runs at 24, plus three wickets at 43. Living off Test success. He has had a poor ODI career to date.

    Jonny Bairstow (4/10) – 58 runs at 19, plus five catches. Had no influence on the series.

    Mark Wood (1/10) – two wickets at 81. The source of big hype in England but doesn’t impress me.

    Reece Topley (1/10) – zero wickets. Only bowled 5.2 overs for the series.

    Chris Woakes (1/10) – zero wickets. Like Plunkett, does not appear to be an international-quality bowler.

    Jos Buttler (1/10) – possesses vast talent, he’s just terribly out of touch.

    Alex Hales (1/10) – clueless against genuinely quick bowling. Would be bossed by Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel in Tests this year.

    Not only based on this series – if I was to pick a combined XI to play an ODI this would be my team:
    1. Aaron Finch (AUS)
    2. David Warner (AUS)
    3. Joe Root (ENG)
    4. Steve Smith (AUS)
    5. Eoin Morgan (ENG)
    6. Glenn Maxwell (AUS)
    7. Jos Buttler (ENG)
    8. James Faulkner (AUS)
    9. Mitchell Johnson (AUS)
    10. Mitchell Starc (AUS)
    11. Pat Cummins (AUS)

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