Thread: The Rugby World Cup 2015

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ Not to worry, LT - you won't be playing many games, but you might get the one win against Fiji (maybe...).

As soon as Pocock is injured, that's the end of the WC for the Convicts; and he always gets injured...

I'd be very careful Betts. Aussie are as cunning as shit house rats. Their scrum is ok, their loosies are great and they have very good attacking backs.

What's not to like about them?

On ya mate. 'Nother round of cock-sucking Cowboys on me the next time we catch up.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I've yet to be convinced by this whole resurgent Australia thing. They squeaked one at the death against a fading Bokke side, predictably beat Argentina in a match where the score flattered them, and beat an off-song All Blacks.

It certainly wouldn't be the first false canary yellow dawn. After beating the AB's in Brisbane in '11 they were suddenly the team to beat at the World Cup. Until they weren't.

Tomorrows match is going to be rather telling methinks.

Fuck off back to the doghouse will ya. Waaaay to close to the bone there.

A decent video of the All Blacks Haka is deserving of this thread.

Is this Betty posting on the NZ Herald live blog?

August 15 2015 8:12 AM
really really really hope that the AB's get rolled, will be good for them to be put into their place, Over rated cheaters.

Live blog: All Blacks v Wallabies - Rugby - NZ Herald News

Over rated cheaters...

Yes it's disgraceful how they usually manage to score more points than their opponents

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I've yet to be convinced by this whole resurgent Australia thing. They squeaked one at the death against a fading Bokke side, predictably beat Argentina in a match where the score flattered them, and beat an off-song All Blacks.

It certainly wouldn't be the first false canary yellow dawn. After beating the AB's in Brisbane in '11 they were suddenly the team to beat at the World Cup. Until they weren't.

Tomorrows match is going to be rather telling methinks.

*Ahem*

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Richie McCheat has managed to have hands on the ball on the floor and roll onto the ball after a tackle (usually coming in from an offside position), kicking at the Convict ball while lying on the floor, at least 6-8 times in the first half - an utter disgrace...

McCaw doesn't drink those electrolyte drinks during breaks.

His bottle is filled with your tears.

^ he is a cheating bastard! But, he also had a very good game and was the first to fuk up the Convict ball time after time; which is his job at 7.

The CKBs are looking strong:

A good front row which includes the best hooker in the world.
The best second row pairing in the world.
A very strong back row.
The best halfback pairing in the world (that could probably apply to their second or third choice pairing too).
One of the best centre partnerships in the world (although after Nonu and Smith, the likes of Fekuakottoku and the big thug are not that great, imho).
The best back 3 in the world.
A lot of depth and great players to being in off the bench.

They are beatable, by Ireland and England, by I suspect they'll win the WC pretty comfortably. Bastards...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Richie McCheat has managed to have hands on the ball on the floor and roll onto the ball after a tackle (usually coming in from an offside position), kicking at the Convict ball while lying on the floor, at least 6-8 times in the first half - an utter disgrace...

Jaysus Christ spare me

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

They are beatable, by Ireland and England,

Maybe...but you sound very confident...where are you from again?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The best back 3 in the world.

Folau is the best fullback in the world...nobody comes close

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

Folau is the best fullback in the world...nobody comes close

I'd rather have Smith on my team, so much experience and makes the right decisions time after time. SkutteringSkuddering is also excellent at fullback. I'd rather have Billy LaRoad over Falou too. The little Welshman was the man of the series when the Lions beat Australia, so he's a great player too.

Here's what George North thinks of Falou:

I think Folau is the best attacking fullback in the world (can't argue his strike rate) and peerless in the air but Smith is the more complete/well-rounded player.

Halfpenny was the best in the Norther hemisphere. Injury and loss of form put him down a bit.


Kiwis really did rub it in a bit in second half. They had a reminder and responded. Still RWC favourites but I am now looking forward to England France. Let's see if Burgess has what it takes on the pitch.

^ SBW has been terrible in recent games, and he's better at union centre than Burgess, so I'm really not optimistic at all. I don't think he'll make the cut for the final squad. I don't want that tosser Cipriani in our WC squad either...

But, I'm hoping to be proven wrong with regard to Burgess!

I reckon the Convicts will leave Cooper out of their WC squad too; he really is a waste of space although Beale has played well at 12 with Foley at 10, so he probably deserves a place.

Pull out a surprise underdog.

Who?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ he is a cheating bastard! But, he also had a very good game and was the first to fuk up the Convict ball time after time; which is his job at 7.

He also happens to have passed his Rugby Referees exam, which means he knows more about the laws of the game than you (Or Me) do.That's why he doesn't get pinged half as much as you would like Betts.

^ I don't think he lacks anything as a hooker, the CKB scrum was solid today, he is an excellent tackler around the ruck where he is supposed to be, and he hit his man in the lineout every time - that's pretty solid basics. Then, as he has been doing for two seasons, he has a massive workrate around the park, is very fast and has great ball handling skills. Name me a current hooker that you consider better!

Dylan Hartley is considered an excellent hooker, but Cole is his equal at te basics and offers loads more around the park. Actually, I don't much like forward trying to be backs, but when you have forwards that do all their basic work, are never lacking or out of position, but get around and become the extra man to score tries too...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

SBW has been terrible in recent games, and he's better at union centre than Burgess, so I'm really not optimistic at all. I don't think he'll make the cut for the final squad. I don't want that tosser Cipriani in our WC squad either... But, I'm hoping to be proven wrong with regard to Burgess!

Burgess has yet to prove himself as a test centre. If he does well, he will be in the squad. I can see him as an ideal replacement for Tuillagi but with greater skills. He has considerable big game experience and is fitting in to the programme nicely. The other advantage is the cover he can provide in the pack.
You will likely get your wish with Cipriani. Currently 4th choice at 10 and no cover elsewhere. Plenty of better options at full back and centre. Lancaster may yet regret dropping Cipriani. Farrel can help make sure you don't lose a game but Cipriani has a bag of tricks that could win it.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ I don't think he lacks anything as a hooker, the CKB scrum was solid today, he is an excellent tackler around the ruck where he is supposed to be, and he hit his man in the lineout every time - that's pretty solid basics. Then, as he has been doing for two seasons, he has a massive workrate around the park, is very fast and has great ball handling skills. Name me a current hooker that you consider better!

Dylan Hartley is considered an excellent hooker, but Cole is his equal at te basics and offers loads more around the park. Actually, I don't much like forward trying to be backs, but when you have forwards that do all their basic work, are never lacking or out of position, but get around and become the extra man to score tries too...

I was lucky enough to be in one of the boxes.Very high up and it gives you a great perspective of how the game unfolds etc. Unfortunately, I forgot my glasses..

We used to dominate Australia in the scrums. We had parity today....and that's all.

He did hit his targets well.....we all know that your best lineout forward is the bloke who throws the ball in. I want to see the game again on TV to see how tough he was cleaning guys out etc and on the tackle.

Originally Posted by chassamui

I can see him as an ideal replacement for Tuillagi but with greater skills.

and more brains

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Dylan Hartley is considered an excellent hooker

Jaysus Christ spare me

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Why would Coles be the best Hooker in the world?

Because he is the hooker in the number one ranked team...with daylight second

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

SBW has been terrible in recent games

He had a shocker in Sydney...but he stayed on injured...he is a true pro...every bit as much as Dan Carter...he will be in the mix for the RWC

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Pull out a surprise underdog.

Who?

Like England and Australia when they won the bloody thingI would not class Ireland as an underdog...they are the second rated team on the planet...but WTF happened against the Scots last night?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I reckon the Convicts will leave Cooper out of their WC squad too;

He will be in...he doesn't have to play on Eden Park in the RWC...and face the haka...not joking...he has no Mana in the Maori world so he shits himself during the haka.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I'd rather have Smith on my team

Mate if Folau was available for the All Blacks they would put Smith at centre...and jaysus what a backline that would be

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Here's what George North thinks of Falou:

We will see won't we

Conrad Smith at centre, yes, but the other fella makes the CKB team at fullback or wing...

Ireland had a weak team out, and I thought Scotland did ok.

I'm not sure that Wales, Ireland, England and Scotland putting weak teams out is the right thing to do. We saw this week how the Convicts and CKBs are getting very close now to their WC team and playing well too. I'd like to see England do the same against France next week and put the best team out.

I was a bit disappointed at our starting hooker yesterday, as he played well in CKBland, and I expected a bit more from him. We don't need to see: Kruis, Cipriani, Calum whoever, the mullet hooker or Brookes again - they are not good enough.

We do seem to have some real creativity and talent across our backline now with: Ford, Slade, Josepth, Watson, May and Brown actually being talented players with good skills, touch and vision. The problem is how do you balance that with a bit of brawn from Burrell and Burgess? Goode also played the best I'd seen him in an England shirt, so I'm happy with cover at 15 too.

I'd have Slade in to be third choice 10, and Watson as 3rd choice 15, but then we still need another (if not 2) decent backup wingers, otherwise, with injuries, we'll be playing games with the likes of Brown or Burrell on the wing - that won't work...

Next week, in Paris, we'll probably lose. Even our first choice 15 would have a real challenge there... Then, at home to Ireland, if they put out their best team then we could lose that too. France away and Ireland at home are actually tougher games than Wales and Convicts, imho. I hope Wales put out a good team against Ireland next week, so we can see just how close they are.

Betty wake up and smell coffee. The reason SH teams win NH RWC every time is because they come off the back of a great build up competition where results actually matter.
The six nations sides have not played competitive rugby for months. Their preprations come down to conditioning and trial matches. Possibles or probables v other home nations.

It is acknowledged that coaches are looking to trim their squads and to that end possibles have to have game time at test level. They will all play their best sides in the last 2 warm up games, except Scotland who only have one side that pretty much picks itself. (You will be pleased to know that Sir Clive agrees with you re putting the 1st 15 out for all warm up games. You may recall he took England down under just before we last won RWC).

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Ireland had a weak team out,

If so that exposes their lack of depth

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Ireland had a weak team out,

If so that exposes their lack of depth

I doubt more than 3 or 4 Scotland players would be considered first choice from the team they fielded against Ireland if that.