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Originally Posted by aging one

Let Madana fight Khan, while Floyd fights a chump, waiting for the next big one. Then who is next Manny or the winner of Khan Madana. I cant see Khan going more than 5 rounds with either. Sorry but an opinion if offensive. No chin, too defensive, not really a killer punch or a "real " fighter, and both can stop him running. Floyd cuts him off and boom boom boom. Madana simply hunts him down and hurts him.

Floyd always is paid the big bucks with showtime. So the rest is gravy for him.

Khan already beat him. And took his best shot.

Originally Posted by alwarner

Originally Posted by aging one

Let Madana fight Khan, while Floyd fights a chump, waiting for the next big one. Then who is next Manny or the winner of Khan Madana. I cant see Khan going more than 5 rounds with either. Sorry but an opinion if offensive. No chin, too defensive, not really a killer punch or a "real " fighter, and both can stop him running. Floyd cuts him off and boom boom boom. Madana simply hunts him down and hurts him.

Floyd always is paid the big bucks with showtime. So the rest is gravy for him.

Khan already beat him. And took his best shot.

For me Khan with his speed would cause more of a problem to "money" than Maidana who for me would be just too one dimensional against arguably the Planets best defensive boxer today ,problem is would the Khan V "money " sell? by the looks of the vote the answer is no, sure Khan beat Maidana but was almost stopped in the 11th round and just about survived the onslaught in the 12th ,IMHO Khan should fight a top rated Welter and then see if he's worthy enough for a shot at the title ,Maidana has "walked the Walk" already now its up to Khan to do the same .

Seems like Khan is working himself up into a lather.

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Mayweather driving Khan mad

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Scott Heavey/Getty ImagesAmir Khan, who struggled to defeat Julio Diaz, is hoping he is next in line for Floyd Mayweather Jr.
While pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. decides who his next victim will be on May 3, poor Amir Khan sounds about ready for a mental institution.

Mayweather is driving him batty.

You might have heard by now that Mayweather is running a poll via social media in which he claims he wants boxing fans to vote between Khan and Marcos Maidana as his next opponent.

As far as I am concerned, the poll is meaningless and nothing more than an inventive publicity stunt that will have no actual bearing on whom Mayweather decides to fight. But a lot of people are taking it seriously, including Khan, who is incredulous that Mayweather would even consider Maidana. Maidana has done a lot more in the ring the past few years than Khan, who has not fought since last April and never fought as a true welterweight. Khan is 2-2 in his past four fights: a controversial loss to Lamont Peterson, a bad knockout defeat to Danny Garcia and two wins against second-rate opponents (Julio Diaz and the lightweight Carlos Molina) in his past two bouts.

Khan owns an incredibly exciting and close points win in 2010 against Maidana, but Maidana has done way more recently to warrant a shot at Mayweather than Khan has. Maidana has won four fights in a row, including a huge win against Adrien Broner in December and knockouts of Josesito Lopez and Jesus Soto Karass.

But Khan can't handle it, posting his thoughts on Facebook (which I have taken the liberty of cleaning up because of grammar and spelling):

Why would Mayweather even consider putting Maidana in the mix? Slow hands, slow feet. Only thing he brings to the table is power. I agree, he beat Broner. We've seen how Mayweather deals with power i.e. Canelo [Alvarez]. Let Broner have his rematch on the undercard of Khan-Mayweather. I bring speed, explosiveness, power and footwork to the table. Look back at quick opponents Mayweather has fought in the past. [Zab] Judah and Oscar De La Hoya both had speed and were close fights. Floyd did say fans want to see him knocking someone out because his fights are boring. So no wonder he's now wanting to fight Maidana.

(One thing -- and maybe Khan didn't get the memo -- but Maidana has never been stopped, while Khan has been badly knocked out in two of his three defeats.)

More from Khan: "I'm ready and [have] been in the gym for the last six months. At 147 pounds you will see a different, stronger Amir Khan. OK, let's talk about the chin, which I always laugh about. Killing yourself making weight makes your punch resistance is poor. I've been killing myself making 140 pounds and should have moved up. Day before a weigh-in I've been 12 pounds over. Not good.

"I've taken the biggest shots from likes of Maidana, who people say is the biggest puncher and didn't go down but then Diaz puts me down with a little shot. Even though my balance was off and I was on one foot, it's cool. I'll take it. So this proves weight making is the problem. … It's in the fans' hands who they want to see me fight. If it's not me then good luck whoever it is."

[+] EnlargeEthan Miller/Getty ImagesAmir Khan outlasted Marcos Maidana in one of 2010's best fights and has recently taken his plead to face Floyd Mayweather Jr. to social media.


Khan, of course, could have made this easier on himself, but he has such a sense of entitlement. Remember, he pulled out of negotiations for a shot at then-welterweight titlist Devon Alexander late last year because he believed he was assured of getting the lucrative shot at Mayweather. It was supposedly so much of a slam dunk that his team apparently leaked it to the British media, which ran wild with the story, even though there were no sources cited, no quotes and no truth.

Had Khan fought in December and beaten Alexander, he would have at least earned the fight with Mayweather. As it stands now, many view his candidacy as a potential opponent as a joke.

Maidana, meanwhile, rolled over Broner to win a welterweight title and give Mayweather another potential opponent.

When many believed Mayweather-Khan was a done deal -- although I was never one of them -- Showtime Sports chief Stephen Espinoza told me last month, "No decision has been made about the [Mayweather] opponent. Marcos Maidana just had an incredibly impressive performance [on Dec. 14]. That will impact our discussions. The opponent is far from set.

"I think of the guys available as opponents, I'm torn between Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana. I think they bring very different sets of challenges to the fight. I can tell you this: Maidana's performance against Broner has gotten Floyd's attention. It's a name that has been discussed, but the decision will be made collaboratively."

One thing to keep in mind here -- even though Broner picked up his rematch option does not mean the fight will absolutely be next. Broner, Maidana and Mayweather are all with Al Haymon, who might want to steer things in another direction. It's well within reason that Broner could back off the rematch and do something else instead if Mayweather and Maidana meet.

So while we wait to see what Mayweather decides, it has been amusing to watch the desperate Khan try to salvage the fight he believes is his birthright. Watching him and Maidana go back and forth with each other on Twitter has been amusing.

Maidana threw out the idea of having a rematch with Khan, saying, "Maidana versus Khan on May 3rd or whenever. That's the fight we need to fight for pride, not to determine anyone else's opponent."

But if Khan wouldn't fight Alexander, why would he take on the more dangerous Maidana?

Soon, Mayweather will make his decision and this chapter of the soap opera will be over.

Great post AO ,my compliments ,you should be writing for "Fightnews .com "! two other welters who I find highly Impressive are "Mr Knockout" Kieth Thurman ,and "Mr perpetual motion" young Shawn Porter ,its all up in the air at present but whoever fights "Money" is in for a mega payday .

Khan should have taken the fight with Devon Alexander. His stock has taken a nose-dive in the last two years since getting KO'd by Danny Garcia, whereas the guy that he actually beat in 2010's arguably best fight, Marco Maidana has fought the best out there and given Mayweather's protege Adrien Broner a pasting in yet another entertaining fight. He really does deserve the tilt at Mayweather and the riches that will bring.
Mayweather tweeting a poll for the fans to pick his next opponent makes him look good in their eyes, and their obvious choice of Maidana also suits him (stylistically) down to the ground. Win win.

Originally Posted by kmart

Khan should have taken the fight with Devon Alexander. His stock has taken a nose-dive in the last two years since getting KO'd by Danny Garcia, whereas the guy that he actually beat in 2010's arguably best fight, Marco Maidana has fought the best out there and given Mayweather's protege Adrien Broner a pasting in yet another entertaining fight. He really does deserve the tilt at Mayweather and the riches that will bring.
Mayweather tweeting a poll for the fans to pick his next opponent makes him look good in their eyes, and their obvious choice of Maidana also suits him (stylistically) down to the ground. Win win.

Spot on Kmart ,all Maidana has IMHO is a punchers chance , and Floyd has met and beat them before , like you I am impressed by Kieth Thurman ,his stoppage of iron hard Soto Karass really gilded the lily ,also as stated before I like the look of Shawn Porter who walked all over Devon Alexander ,of course the fight we all want to see is "the Pac man" V "money" and if he gets through the return fight against Bradley with a win (which I expect to be pure boresville ) who is to say that it won't happen with both getting a mega pay day ,Bob Arum of course included

I saw Bob Arum interviewed about why Mayweather wont fight Pacquio, interesting.

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op-Rank promoter Bob Arum said reigning pound-for-pound boxing champ Floyd Mayweather Jr. has flaws in his fighting style, believing the Grand Rapids native is just scared to face a left-handed power puncher like Pacquiao.

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Boxing champion Floyd Mayweather Jr smiles as he greets fans and amateur boxers during a visit to conduct training clinics in Soweto [Reuters/SIPHIWE SIBEKO]


In his recent interview on ESPN, Arum shared his opinion as to why Mayweather continues to dismiss Pacquiao as his opponent in the ring. The veteran promoter believed Mayweather doesn't like to take on left-handed fighter as his shoulder roll defense is vulnerable against southpaw fighters.
"Don't you understand why the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight won't and can't happen?" Arum said to ESPN. "I promoted Mayweather for over 10 years. One thing I learned over those years is that Mayweather doesn't like or won't fight southpaws," Arum stressed.

"Why? Because his whole style is geared for a right-handed fighter. And to compound that if the southpaw is really fast and moves, that would give Mayweather and his style a lot of problems, and it would really jeopardize Mayweather's record of an undefeated fighter," he added.
Arum even compared Mayweather to German World War II leader Adolf Hitler, as he believed the pound-for-pound boxer is becoming a dictator in fight negotiations.
"That's why the fight isn't happening. Because this is almost like before the 2nd World war. Hitler wanted this and wanted that, and if we gave him this peace would occur. But it was never enough, because Hitler's dream was to go to war and conquer all of the world. Now Mayweather's dream is to stay undefeated; so whatever you give him, if Manny agreed to fight for nothing, it wouldn't be enough. Don't you understand that?," Arum said.

Not wishing to argue the point with either you or Kmart as its quite obvious you know "the game" as well as any one and better than most, and in this this thread is very fortunate to have both your inputs (thanks), however at the end of the day money talks ,and who is to say that in the twilight of both their chosen professions , they won't "get it on" for one last mega payday ? undoubtedly Pac man will go into politics , and Mayweather with his gift of the gab and his undoubted knowledge of the "noble art" will make a good living living on prime time American TV boxing events ,and why not, just who is to argue with his knowledge and his record ?

^That is interesting. If Mayweather really wants a legacy of being the "best ever.." blah blah, his evasion of Pacquiao will always haunt him, and be included as a disclaimer mentioning him as an all-time great, imo.
Pacman has a lot of mileage on the clock now, but I think he will get past Bradley, and maybe call it quits after avenging the dreadful decision of the last fight. The match might actually be a barn-burner as Bradley was needled by criticism of his performance and fighting style. He put on last year's best fight against Provodnikov immediately afterwards in his next fight.

Originally Posted by kmart

^That is interesting. If Mayweather really wants a legacy of being the "best ever.." blah blah, his evasion of Pacquiao will always haunt him, and be included as a disclaimer mentioning him as an all-time great, imo.
Pacman has a lot of mileage on the clock now, but I think he will get past Bradley, and maybe call it quits after avenging the dreadful decision of the last fight. The match might actually be a barn-burner as Bradley was needled by criticism of his performance and fighting style. He put on last year's best fight against Provodnikov immediately afterwards in his next fight.

Yeah the permutations are endless ,for me the BradlyV Pac man fight is bound to go to 12 rounds ,with Pac Man emerging the winner cos as you say it was a crap call last time ,also many boxing scribes said Provodnikov did enough to get the nod with Bradley , in my book Arum is one of the shrewdest guys in the Business as well as being a nice guy to boot I think at the end of the day he will swing the "dream fight", the division is chock full of talent without a doubt ,and for me KHAN to be fair should not be in the reckoning for a shot ,however boxing being what it is today who knows without the benefit of a crystal ball?

For me things like this farce do the sport of boxing no good at all, I suppose the Americans like this sort of ballyhoo but its not for me ,if Khan does get a shot just on this corny vote its laughable when there are so many very serious contenders around who have proved themselves at welter were as Khan has never fought one fight at the weight Boxing News | Mayweather’s official Khan/Maidana poll ends, Khan scores come from behind victory

I agree , khan never fought at welter , but who says it will be at that weight ? Mayweather might make it at 154

Originally Posted by blue

I agree , khan never fought at welter , but who says it will be at that weight ? Mayweather might make it at 154

Hi Blue, thanks for your valued input ,of course nothing is wrote in stone ,but from what I can gather the fight will be made at 147 ,but nothing is certain and I'm glad you brought the point up ,Floyd even at his age has no trouble making the weight ,but lets just wait and see , I enclose an article which you may not have seen ,but whatever happens come May I await with feverish anticipation as to just who is the next "opponent", I suppose its a novel idea but for me personally its somewhat of a joke

Is Mayweather’s Khan-Maidana poll a way of taking heat off of him when he selects Khan as his next opponent?

Yes it's assumed the fight ill be 147, not really stated though and mayweather has the 154 belt too, and he likes playing mind games with khan ,so why not make it at 154 ,
he looked superb at 150 in last fight weigh in why bother with 147 ?


While I think khan was 140 in his last fight . and the only thing he has is speed, so a higher weight class fight gives his small brain problems thinking what weight to go in at ...

Its the guessing game Blue!, Mayweather's good at that inside or outside the ring ,so far its all speculation ,I wish Mayweather would stop pissing around and sign the contract with his next opponent and at what weight

Well all you fight buffs out there its now officially "on", the long awaited return Froch V Groves , for me and I believe Kmart said it was a distinct possibility , just too much money and Froch's fighters pride for it not to, so come on now throw your hats in the ring and give me your thoughts as to who is going to be victorious ,IMHO Groves will come out a winner , but then again maybe Froch took the fight too lightly ,but now he is in no illusion that Groves is no tomato can which all adds to the spice ,cos it could be an entirely kettle of fish next time around , however I'll stick my neck out and go for Grove's Boxing News | Confirmed: Froch vs. Groves II rematch is on

uk based I don't get to see too much boxing as torrents seem sparse and American shows are on at 5am here .
This card might be ok tonight Uk time -heavyweight.
and there should be a stream .


Tyson furry beating Chisora last time .

Both in action tonight against journeymen.

Tyson Fury was involved in more pre-fight antics as he kept on his clothes at the weigh-in for Saturday's fight with Joey Abell.
Fury was a career heaviest 19st 8lbs for his heavyweight clash with Abell, although it was hard to judge his real weight after he stepped onto the scales with a full tracksuit, shoes and cap.
The 25-year-old has attracted headlines throughout his career, regularly taunting his rivals on Twitter, and appeared to play mind games with his American foe.
British rival Dereck Chisora is no stranger to controversy himself, but was respectful towards opponent Kevin Johnson ahead of their bout on the same bill at the Copper Box Arena in London.
Chisora stayed active last year, picking up four stoppage wins, and looked trim at 17st on the stage.
'Del Boy' even shook hands with American Johnson, who had vowed to ruin plans for a Chisora-Fury rematch in the summer.
Johnson lasted the distance in a points loss to former WBC king Vitali Klitschko, while Fury also had to settle for a decision win over the Atlanta man, and Chisora is keen to send out a statement.
"Johnson's a good strong American fighter with a good reputation, just what I need to make me perform to my best," he said.
"He's a tough boy, he's taken Fury and Klitschko the distance, and if I can become the first man to stop him then it would send a big message to Fury and the rest of the heavyweights out there."

Mayweather would beat both of them. But, Khan would be the more interesting fight because he might land a few shots and force Mayweather to actually do something.

Originally Posted by blue

uk based I don't get to see too much boxing as torrents seem sparse and American shows are on at 5am here .
This card might be ok tonight Uk time -heavyweight.
and there should be a stream .


Tyson furry beating Chisora last time .

Both in action tonight against journeymen.

Tyson Fury was involved in more pre-fight antics as he kept on his clothes at the weigh-in for Saturday's fight with Joey Abell.
Fury was a career heaviest 19st 8lbs for his heavyweight clash with Abell, although it was hard to judge his real weight after he stepped onto the scales with a full tracksuit, shoes and cap.
The 25-year-old has attracted headlines throughout his career, regularly taunting his rivals on Twitter, and appeared to play mind games with his American foe.
British rival Dereck Chisora is no stranger to controversy himself, but was respectful towards opponent Kevin Johnson ahead of their bout on the same bill at the Copper Box Arena in London.
Chisora stayed active last year, picking up four stoppage wins, and looked trim at 17st on the stage.
'Del Boy' even shook hands with American Johnson, who had vowed to ruin plans for a Chisora-Fury rematch in the summer.
Johnson lasted the distance in a points loss to former WBC king Vitali Klitschko, while Fury also had to settle for a decision win over the Atlanta man, and Chisora is keen to send out a statement.
"Johnson's a good strong American fighter with a good reputation, just what I need to make me perform to my best," he said.
"He's a tough boy, he's taken Fury and Klitschko the distance, and if I can become the first man to stop him then it would send a big message to Fury and the rest of the heavyweights out there."

It would appear Fury is taking his rival lightly ,as he weighrd in at a massive 20 pounds heavier than his last fight ,of course I am not saying he won't win ,but if it goes to the later rounds carrying all that excess baggage who knows? for me the sign of fool to risk so much because of his king sized ego , the game is littered with boxers who have lost through paying their opponent no respect ,IMHO just sheer un professionalism Boxing News | Weights from London

Originally Posted by blue

uk based I don't get to see too much boxing as torrents seem sparse and American shows are on at 5am here . This card might be ok tonight Uk time -heavyweight. and there should be a stream

Blue do you use wiziwig TV? I get to see a lot of the boxing on it.

Originally Posted by rebbu

Originally Posted by blue

uk based I don't get to see too much boxing as torrents seem sparse and American shows are on at 5am here . This card might be ok tonight Uk time -heavyweight. and there should be a stream

Blue do you use wiziwig TV? I get to see a lot of the boxing on it.

yes it's my favourite for sport, as they show the bandwidth - very handy as I can pick a low quality stream to match my providers output when they are mean...

but good idea -i'll have to pay more attention to fights in Europe ie my time ,
usa shows are just too late .

Originally Posted by blue

Originally Posted by rebbu

Originally Posted by blue

uk based I don't get to see too much boxing as torrents seem sparse and American shows are on at 5am here . This card might be ok tonight Uk time -heavyweight. and there should be a stream

Blue do you use wiziwig TV? I get to see a lot of the boxing on it.

yes it's my favourite for sport, as they show the bandwidth - very handy as I can pick a low quality stream to match my providers output when they are mean...

but good idea -i'll have to pay more attention to fights in Europe ie my time ,
usa shows are just too late .

I'd like to figure out how to record the streams. Ther's got to be a way to do it.

Muhammad Ali gloves go for $837K
Updated: February 23, 2014

The boxing gloves Muhammad Ali wore when he won the world heavyweight championship for the first time sold at auction for $836,500 on Saturday night.

The Heritage Auction took place almost 50 years to the day, Feb. 25, 1964, after Ali -- then known as Cassius Clay -- shook the world by stopping Sonny Liston, who quit on his stool after the sixth round in Miami Beach, Fla.

"These are the very gloves that Ali wore when he claimed his first heavyweight championship 50 years ago and, given the attention these received from media and fans all over the world, and the spectacular price they achieved, it's clear that Ali is just as loved and respected today as he's ever been," said Chris Ivy, director of sports collectibles at Heritage Auctions.

It was after that fight that Ali uttered two of his most famous quotes: "I am the greatest!" and "I shook up the world!"

The buyer of the gloves wished to remain anonymous.



The gloves were originally part of the estate of the late Hall of Fame trainer Angelo Dundee, Ali's longtime chief second.

After Dundee died in 2012, his son, Jim, put up much of his father's collection of boxing memorabilia for auction to help pay family medical bills. He also promised to donate a portion of the proceeds to the Muhammad Ali Foundation. The gloves, the highlight of the initial auction, sold for $385,848 in December 2012.

Originally Posted by prawnograph

^ Hi - there was a time lapse - I was scrolling back through this thread thinking somehow someone had attributed something to me, or possibly been able to post under my user name. Didn't reload page therefore didn't see you're newer post.
Bit of a surprise for a passive prawn!
cheers
I know f-all about boxers and boxing, but enjoy reading about it.

No probs Prawno ,I only wish other threads could be as civil as ours ,with a thought that we all do not think the same and all opinions are more than welcome ,but to some its a crime to have your own mind , thank fuck it does not apply to non of us

Been watching and reading about Boxing for well nigh 60 years and thought I had seen and heard it all ,how very wrong I was!!!! , only in America Boxing News | Floyd: My Dad’s gonna fight Robert Guerrero’s Dad