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    Quote Originally Posted by thaiguzzi View Post
    Disagree.
    Most of Wilder's 40 odd fights have been against who? Journeymen whashisnames.
    And Fury is a great boxer in the Mayweather sense of being a boxer, ie don't get hit, and yes, he can take a punch if you finally connect, but again, bar Wilder/Klitschko, who has he fought?
    And i've never seen him knock a top end high quality opponent out.
    Andy Ruiz Jr at the top of his game would beat Fury, and give Wilder a good go.
    The scary ones in this division are Usyk and the under rated Whyte.

    Usyk is a beast. Very good boxer.Big enough?

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    If you truly understood and knew boxing you would know this it is a well established fact.



    So, you mean you watched a Youtube boxing channel from time to time... I've watched Ortiz 3 or 4 times (maybe 5) in the last couple of years - he is neat and tidy, but lacks power and is slow; he struggled to get rid of Dave Allen, FFS...



    I won't bother telling you about my boxing background, Snubby, suffice to say you'd better hope you never meet me at the Onnut Beer Garden!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    So, you mean you watched a Youtube boxing channel from time to time...
    Betty I started boxing when I was 6 years old and boxed in youth leagues when I was a kid and trained in a local boxing gym for many years. I have been of student of the game for about 41 years now.

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    I won't bother telling you about my boxing background,
    I would love to here about it.

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    Snubby, suffice to say you'd better hope you never meet me at the Onnut Beer Garden!
    Everyone loves in interwebs tough guy.

    Well unless you are in the heavyweight division you may want to take on someone with a lighter punch in a lower weight class.

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    I am a blackbelt in Karaoke, Sushi and Origami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I won't bother telling you about my boxing background, Snubby, suffice to say you'd better hope you never meet me at the Onnut Beer Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I started boxing when I was 6 years old and boxed in youth leagues when I was a kid and trained in a local boxing gym for many years. I have been of student of the game for about 41 years now.
    Lets get ready to RUMBLE!!!

    I know a ring you two can use in a bar in Patpong.

    You two can follow the midget fighting, should be able to get Luhammad Ali on that undercard

    What you two saying then. Shall I start organising?

    Anyone up for tickets to these two overweight undersexed internet heavyweights battering each other around the ring?

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    ^ what do you mean follow the midget fighting - we could do a tag team match.

    Snubby should be warned, I've been beaten up at least 3 times a week for the last 15+ years by the missus, so I'm used to dealing with these midgets (and I can take a beating well). Also, I have been humiliated by champions/professionals/amateurs/complete beginners/passers by in the sparring ring on 3 continents, as well as breaking my foot (well, felt like it at the time...) while fighting a tree! I'm also used to the venue having lived in Onnut for 6 months and walked passed (even drank at) the Onnut Beer Garden on a daily basis. Ah, I nearly forgot, I got a belt and a couple of tags in Mugendo when I was a teenager...

    It'll be an unfair fight...
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    I just spat beer all over my monitor. Betty I own you a green, Dilly one is on the way...


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    ^

    Now, back to business, if this quote from Hearn (?) pans out then Joshua would have fought 6 of the current top 10 heavyweights, leaving Ortiz, Fury and Wilder to face - which I'm sure he'd be happy to do. What more can the fella do (I didn't say he'd win them all, but he's game) (https://www.heavyweightboxing.com/rankings)

    "Kubrat Pulev is the IBF mandatory, Oleksandr Usyk is the WBO mandatory, and I see him wanting to take both of those fights as well."
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    Not boxing, but I didn't know where else to put it.

    We probably all know the outcome when a martial artist takes on a Thai Boxer...

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    This weekend, Welterweight's top guy (imo) Terence "Bud" Crawford defends his WBO 147lb title against a guy with an unpronouncible name, challenger Egidijus Kavaliauksas. The Lithuanian fighter is good, but is nowhere near Crawford's ability and the challenge will probably end around the mid-rounds mark.

    Will probably be a walkover for Crawford, but the guy is always a delight to watch. Hopefully one day we might see him get into PBC's roster of 147lbers, such as Spence, Garcia, Porter, etc, and give them the flogging that Al Haymon is protecting them from.

    A more intriguing fight on the undercard is Richard Commey defending his IBF Lightweight title against blue chip prospect challenger Teofimo Lopez. Commey is the underdog in this fight, but both guys are serious punchers, so could be a "don't blink" affair as to who gets in the first bombs early on. Figure the winner of this fight to be Vasyl Lomachenko's next opponent to unify all the belts at 135lbs, making history in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    We probably all know the outcome when a martial artist takes on a Thai Boxer...
    Yep, only going to be one winner there. Martial Arts people look great against other Martial Arts people of the same discipline, but in the real world they'll get their arses handed to them every time by someone like a Muay Thai fighter who's skills will beat pretty much anyone if it came to a "lets sort this out outside" scenario. Case in point is watching some dick like Steven Seagal put 6 guys in a row on their backs when he does Aikido demos (plenty on Youtube). Easy if they all come at him one at a time with their hands outstretched while the others dance around menacingly waiting their turn to get flipped spectacualrly, one good Kickboxer would iron him out in a heartbeat though.

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    pretty good read on the young Lopez you mentioned...

    https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...y-peace-family

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    ^Yes, good call. If Lopez's mind is still concerned with his family problems, he might get those compounded by Commey's right hand.

    Kid can certainly bang..

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    Weekend's telly here if you skip past that UFC shite.

    https://liveonsat.com/x-boxing-mma.php

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    I reckon Joshua will have problems with Usyk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    ^Yes, good call. If Lopez's mind is still concerned with his family problems, he might get those compounded by Commey's right hand.

    Kid can certainly bang..

    Wow!
    The knockout vs Meynard.
    Impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I reckon Joshua will have problems with Usyk.

    Everybody has problems with Usyk. Not sure if he is big enough, but he certainly has the boxing skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Betty I started boxing when I was 6 years old and boxed in youth leagues when I was a kid and trained in a local boxing gym for many years. I have been of student of the game for about 41 years now.



    I would love to here about it.



    Everyone loves in interwebs tough guy.

    Well unless you are in the heavyweight division you may want to take on someone with a lighter punch in a lower weight class.

    Well tough guy, why can't you get to Thailand? Been beaten about the ring too much?

    Getting in the ring is a little more daunting than hopping on an International flight...don't you think, tough guy?

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    Lopez is for damn sure real. Wow!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Lopez is for damn sure real. Wow!!!
    That's how to finish a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Everybody has problems with Usyk. Not sure if he is big enough, but he certainly has the boxing skills.
    He knocked out Bellow pretty easily, and Bellow is decent, so Usyk is top drawer in my book - I suspect he could beat Joshua. But, Joshua has been so mismanaged, he has turned to rubbish... Against Usyk he should just use his boxing and reach to get in then get in a scrap, use his size and power - a top drawer, big heavyweight should be able to do that, but I'm not sure that he can without getting chinned. Joshua looks weaker and less powerful now than 2 or 3 years ago.
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    Terrence "Bud" Crawford is a really fun fighter to watch.

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    ^Crawford had a tougher time with Kavaliauksas than most predicted. The Lithuanian put Crawford down in the 2nd round with a beautiful right hand, timing Crawford coming in off the Southpaw stance, and indeed getting caught and engaging with the challenger for the rest of the fight, until the inevitable happened. Good fight though, and maybe PBC's roster of Welterweights might fancy a chance at Crawford on that showing.. Hope so.

    Lopez on the undercard caught Commey early on in the 2nd, and that was it. Kid has tremendous power in either hand. The 135lb finale with Lomachenko for all the Lightweight gongs really should be one of the most anticipated fights for 2020. Superb evening of boxing on ESPN (this morning).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I suspect he could beat Joshua. But, Joshua has been so mismanaged, he has turned to rubbish... Against Usyk he should just use his boxing and reach to get in then get in a scrap, use his size and power - a top drawer, big heavyweight should be able to do that, but I'm not sure that he can without getting chinned.
    Joshua made 55$ million last year, wish someone would fucking "mismanage" me.. Not bad for a slightly more mobile Frank Bruno, minus the heart..

    Usyk is a built up Cruiserweight who won everything to win at that weight. He will take another fight at full Heavyweight before taking on any of the top 10 HW fighters, imo. Outside the UK, Bellew was not taken seriously at Cruiserweight. His fight with Usyk was a gimme for both fighters, before retirement for Bellew, and moving up to Heavyweight for Usyk. (Who is a fantastic boxer, imo).

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