Thread: Healthy-ish meals

Originally Posted by Cujo

Spirits DO contain calories. But we don't care about that because they DON'T contain carbs and it's carbs we're avoiding.

That was my original question.

Alcohol contains carbon, hydrogen and oxygen in approximately the same proportions as sugar (not surprising since it is fermented sugar) and it also has about the same energy content (calories) as sugar when you burn it so is it possible to technically consider it to be a carbohydrate?

I am not going to google the answer even though I am interested to know what it is.

Originally Posted by Looper

That was my original question.

Alcohol contains carbon, hydrogen and oxygen in approximately the same proportions as sugar (not surprising since it is fermented sugar) and it also has about the same energy content (calories) as sugar when you burn it so is it possible to technically consider it to be a carbohydrate?

I am not going to google the answer even though I am interested to know what it is.

You are kind of mixing up stuff. Calories is basically a measure of energy. You can get energy from burning different types of "fuel".

You can get energy from burning wood, or petrol, or coal. All provide energy, but they are not the same thing.

So carbohydrates are one type of "fuel".

But there are calories in everything we eat (or in some cases drink). A 100 grams steak has 250 calories (but no carbohydrate). Alcohol (a vodka ) has 231 calories (but 0 carbohydrates).

That is why Ant keeps saying a simple focus on carbohydrates is wrong, as its calories that matter (total amount of fuel taken is) as opposed to the TYPE of fuel taken in.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Alcohol = more alcohol = late night kebab = more alcohol while watching 3am movie = more snacks = more alcohol = no exercise the next day = weight gain.

The cycle I am stuck in.

It's exactly the type of fuel taken in that concerns us.
We don't want calories from carbs because it will be converted to glucose for use as energy whereas we want the body burning fat for energy.

Originally Posted by Cujo

It's exactly the type of fuel taken in that concerns us.
We don't want calories from carbs because it will be converted to glucose for use as energy whereas we want the body burning fat for energy.

I am far from an expert on this, but I think whatever the source of the extra calories - they end up stored as fat.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

I am far from an expert on this, but I think whatever the source of the extra calories - they end up stored as fat.

Correct, but how do you get the body to use the fat as energy? Deprive it of its primary energy source, carbohydrates.

^^ I hope that's low fat dressing...

It does look nice. &, pretty similar to what I'll be eating for dinner:





&, I'm gonna take a risk and put yesterday's lunch in the healthy eating thread!



It was really tasty, not crazy fattening, and I did plenty of exercise yesterday - burning more than I took in. Does a nice chicken burger set (& Mum's Touch is the best I've eaten) cause a problem if you have it once a week? Ok, it'd be better without the coke, but I'm gonna suggest, for my body anyways, keeping it guessing is better for it than just eating healthily all the time. You gotta keep all your body's functions active, so if you just eat healthily then maybe your body reacts slowly to certain food types?

Originally Posted by nidhogg

But there are calories in everything we eat (or in some cases drink). A 100 grams steak has 250 calories (but no carbohydrate). Alcohol (a vodka ) has 231 calories (but 0 carbohydrates).

So what happens to the alcohol we consume in terms of nutritional processing?

Does the body convert it back into glucose (like it was before it was fermented) and then possibly turn it into fat reserves if we don't burn it as glucose?

Or is it passed as a waste product after the kidney has finished processing it?

Originally Posted by Cujo

Correct, but how do you get the body to use the fat as energy? Deprive it of its primary energy source, carbohydrates.

So how does ketosis work as a trick to make the body burn off its stored fat?

If you eat protein and fat so you have that energy in your stomach does your body preferentially burn the fat stored in your fat reserves before turning to the fat and protein in your stomach as an energy source?

Does your body pass some of the fat and protein as waste instead of converting it into more fat reserves?

In a nutshell and very simply put , our bodies use glucose for energy. The glucose is derived from carbohydrates. When the the body is deprived of carbohydrates as an energy source the liver will produce enzymes that convert stored fat into something called ketones which the body uses as energy instead of glucose.
The body will use some energy from fat and protein as well, but assuming you're not pigging out on everything else, when you cut out carbs the primary source of energy will become the fat your body has stored for this very use.
You'll get more in depth information if you google it.
I keep forgetting this is the healthy meals thread and not the transformation thread.

I feel like this is all getting a bit circular... Wonder if that will burn any calories.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I feel like this is all getting a bit circular... Wonder if that will burn any calories.

Yes. The brain is the most energy hungry organ of the body.

Healthy meals? I've done messed up...



I haven't brought a laptop, so...if some one could repost...

edit: I did walk around a lot this morning, so I reckon I kinda earned it.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I feel like this is all getting a bit circular... Wonder if that will burn any calories.

Burn calories did you say?

A few...



I'm approaching the shape I'd like to be in; maybe another 6 weeks before that 6-pack is entertaining the ladies...

The wife cooked up some pork bones with lots of meat on them while I was out; very tasty - quite healthy???

An 11.5 ounce bottle of Snapple has the equivalent of 10 teaspoons of sugar. You might have been better off with a glass of wine.

Originally Posted by happynz

Healthy meals? I've done messed up...



I haven't brought a laptop, so...if some one could repost...

edit: I did walk around a lot this morning, so I reckon I kinda earned it.

hear yar, are you in KTM hz?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Burn calories did you say?

A few...



I'm approaching the shape I'd like to be in; maybe another 6 weeks before that 6-pack is entertaining the ladies...

The wife cooked up some pork bones with lots of meat on them while I was out; very tasty - quite healthy???

Too much. And as happynz mentioned too much sugar in that drink.

Right, on advice from TD, I've done one third of the snaffle then put it on the fridge for tomorrow/next day. &, there's a lot of bones on that meat... I had planned to steam the salmon (I'll do that tomorrow), but if I don't eat what the wife cooks she gets rather moody!

Betts tell me you didn't choose that bedspread - its a shocker.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Betts tell me you didn't choose that coat hanger decoration, t-shirt, bedroom in general - shockers

...ftfy...

I think it's lovely...

If happynz is in Nepal, he'll be having some nice food and beers; the curries there are great; some tasty local beers too.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

hear yar, are you in KTM hz?

Yup. Arrived early this morning. Stowed a couple of oranges in my day pack (trying to keep true to the thread here 555).

Unless you hide pillows go buy some. Jeez Thai women love pillows, buy her a few. Bet ya get lucky.