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    Justice!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Norton, since you found out who did the poisoning, did you do anything with that information?
    No need. Shortly after the poisoning, the restaurant had an unfortunate incident. Around 2AM, bottled gas leak exploded and burned down the place. Som Nam Na.
    Smart of you to wipe your fingerprints off.

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    That will teach them to mess with the White folk's dogs.

    We are serious about our mutts!

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    Rick, that is a sad and shocking story. I am sorry for your loss. The same thing happened to me some years ago with a dog I have brought from the UK. I can empathise.

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    Thank you Bowzer. I think most people find it something that should not happen. It is just too bad some Thais don't feel the same way. There is no consequence to poisoning dogs in Thailand and that might send a message that it is OK. Totally wrong in my book.

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    IMO nobody who buys a pitt bull is responsible:

    Are Pit Bulls Dangerous | Dog Bite Statistics | LiveScience

    Even the U.S. Army has acknowledged that pit bulls are high-risk dogs; they are therefore prohibited in some military housing units.

    Pit bulls join several other breeds on the list of dogs that are recognized as more likely to attack and cause significant injury: The Centeres for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed data and found the following breeds are implicated in a majority of dog-bite fatalities:

    Pit bulls
    Rottweilers
    German shepherds
    Huskies
    Wolf hybrids
    Malamutes
    Doberman pinschers
    Chow-chows
    Saint Bernards
    Great Danes
    It's worth noting that no matter how these data are arranged — mixed breeds versus pure breeds, injuries versus fatalities — pit bulls consistently rank at the top of the list for attacks, and by a wide margin. (Rottweilers generally rank a distant second.)


    Sure there are sites that want you to believe Pitt Bulls have an undeserved rep and that they are more likely to lick your face off than rip it off, but the stats prove otherwise. These dogs have been bred for one thing only-agression. Of course nobody owning one will agree. They do not have to be trained to fight, they are naturally highly aggressive and dangerous, that's why people buy them in the first place.
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    ^ You're a cvnt.

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    why? I expect you are a dog 'lover' and a meat eater at the same time.

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    I'm really baffled by people who commented on dogs making noise. Thais are the noisiest and most inconsiderate towards neighbours when it comes to their loud crap music at ungodly hours, setting off fireworks every night, their own dogs barking, adults shouting to talk over everyone else, revving their loud vehicles, and on and on. No Thai would ever complain, they just let it happen, so if a farang comments, look out!

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    Xanax, Satonic is right you are a cvut
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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    Even the U.S. Army has acknowledged that pit bulls are high-risk dogs; they are therefore prohibited in some military housing units.
    More due to the entire US Army sharing a single brain cell than the fault of the dog.

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    Sorry to hear about your dogs, Rick. On a good chance that you are being prepared for a burglary, I'd think about beefing up security at your house. I hope this is not the case, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    why? I expect you are a dog 'lover' and a meat eater at the same time.
    Animals killed for meat are generally killed quickly and humanely. Have you ever seen how long it takes for an animal to die from poisoning? How much it suffers? I, for one, would not eat meat if the way it was killed was a long, slow, painful process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    why? I expect you are a dog 'lover' and a meat eater at the same time.
    Animals killed for meat are generally killed quickly and humanely. Have you ever seen how long it takes for an animal to die from poisoning? How much it suffers? I, for one, would not eat meat if the way it was killed was a long, slow, painful process.
    And also dogs are not really the same as other animals.

    I am not a dog lover but I can see they are different. They interact with humans in a much more dynamic way than other animals so humans feel that they have a relationship with and love their dogs so hurting or killing them is worse than hurting other animals since you are also hurting the dog's owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    why? I expect you are a dog 'lover' and a meat eater at the same time.
    Animals killed for meat are generally killed quickly and humanely. Have you ever seen how long it takes for an animal to die from poisoning? How much it suffers? I, for one, would not eat meat if the way it was killed was a long, slow, painful process.
    Have you ever been to an abattoir? not very humane I can assure you, terrified animals strung up and slaughtered. Then there is the halal way of course-a nice slit to the throat and bleeding to death. In Thai villages pigs get delivered in a cage at celebrations and get badly knifed to death, sickening but just like the slaughter house on a smaller scale. I forget who said if abattoirs had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian, but there is some truth in it. So, if you eat meat you do not object to animals being killed, just the method, so what if the dogs were killed as quickly as a cow, would that square with your conscience?

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    Damn - have two dogs- a poodle ( I know but they were very popular due to Royal connections) and a shoodle weird cross.
    Back in the UK had Scotties .
    You get to love your dogs and they are a part of the family.
    Sometimes do not understand what goes on is this strange country.

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    Without taking sides on this, I would have to note that poisoning is traditionally a woman methodology, and there for I would have to argue that anyone poisoning a dog is a f*cking c*nt.


    Without taking sides of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    I forget who said if abattoirs had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian,
    Wrong. There was a series on in UK a couple of years ago where they showed the slaughter of animals to diners through a glass wall (meat eating and veggie) and the diners could choose to eat the meat after. Most of the meat eaters did. I was veggie for 10 years and watched the shows in all of their graphic detail to see if I really am comfortable with eating meat, knowing what goes on. I found it upsetting and disturbing, but I am still a meat eater.
    As I said, poisoning is far more drawn out and inhumane.

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    ^ I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you but how long does it take, based on your experiences? Serious question – I’ll reply with my experience.

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    ^ That would depend on ...How big the dog was, how much poison it had digested etc...

    I got to one of our dogs as it was going into spasms, frothing at the mouth.
    Got her to the vet's and she was saved.

    No such thing as a timescale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleyboy View Post
    ^ That would depend on ...How big the dog was, how much poison it had digested etc...

    I got to one of our dogs as it was going into spasms, frothing at the mouth.
    Got her to the vet's and she was saved.

    No such thing as a timescale!
    True, but in my experience, with the right food and poison, 5 minutes to death and no whimpering or barking.

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    All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. I have not eaten meat or fish for well over 40 years but it does not bother me that others do, just apersonal choice. It always seems odd though when people think it's ok to kill and eat animals but are then horrified when it's suggested there is nothing wrong with eating horses or cats and dogs, same as anything else. It would be nice if meat eaters had to kill and gut their own victims, I wonder how many would be up for that?
    On the dog pests we obviously just need a faster poison that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax View Post
    All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
    Indeed. Dogs are largely known to be loyal and sometimes even self sacrificing.

    When I see a chicken or even a cow with the same attributes, I might reconsider my omnivore status.

    We (humans) entered into a mutual benefit pact with dogs millenia ago, and we are the ones who betray that pact, not dogs.

    Every time we harm, torture or even, god forbid, eat, a dog, we show ourselves as less than human.

    fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    On the dog pests we obviously just need a faster poison that's all.
    The problem with poison is that it is not a targeted solution to a problem, and the available ones cause a nasty lingering death.

    There is nothing to stop the dog of some responsible dog owner which happens to get out for a few minutes from eating it, nor cats or even (heaven forbid ) a child roaming about his Soi on a skateboard or something.

    I consider myself a dog lover, but if one of mine were worrying or attacking livestock and got shot by a farmer then I'd take responsibility and apologise to him, I'd consider the farmer to be well within his rights.

    The problem is when some dick randomly takes it upon himself to spread poisoned bait around without warning anybody and those with well-behaved dogs which might happen to be sitting out in the Soi, wearing a collar and a rabies vaccination tag etc, take the bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xanax
    On the dog pests we obviously just need a faster poison that's all.
    The problem with poison is that it is not a targeted solution to a problem, and the available ones cause a nasty lingering death.

    There is nothing to stop the dog of some responsible dog owner which happens to get out for a few minutes from eating it, nor cats or even (heaven forbid ) a child roaming about his Soi on a skateboard or something.

    I consider myself a dog lover, but if one of mine were worrying or attacking livestock and got shot by a farmer then I'd take responsibility and apologise to him, I'd consider the farmer to be well within his rights.

    The problem is when some dick randomly takes it upon himself to spread poisoned bait around without warning anybody and those with well-behaved dogs which might happen to be sitting out in the Soi, wearing a collar and a rabies vaccination tag etc, take the bait.
    I agree.

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