Thread: Jatuporn warns reds to be prepared:moves afoot to bring down government

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

then maybe you ought to suspend your disbelief that Jatuporn might know something you don't?

I doubt he knows how to tie his own shoe laces.

I suppose if he cries wolf often enough, eventually he will be right; though everyone might have stopped listening to him by then.... maybe thats the motivation behind those giving him his inside information.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/poli...-coup-plotters

Jatuporn in mass protest call to deter coup plotters

• Published: 9/02/2012 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

Red shirt co-leader Jatuporn Prompan has claimed there could be a coup in April making it necessary for the red shirts to renew their mass protests to pre-empt any such attempt.


Jatuporn: Looking at a pre-emptive strike

Mr Jatuporn, a list MP for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, said yesterday that members of his United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) and his associates who work with US intelligence told him there could be a coup d'etat which could bring about a change of government in April.

The UDD would move to prevent the coup. The group will stage a concert on Feb 25 and former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra will speak to his supporters via a video call from abroad.

Mr Jatuporn said the gathering of red shirt supporters should discourage anyone who might be plotting a coup.

Nisit Sinthuphrai, another UDD leader, said the movement's leadership met in Nakhon Nayok two days ago and agreed that the present political situation could be the spark leading to a power revolt.

The UDD should stage anti-coup protests, he said, adding that red shirts should also press their demand for a charter rewrite.

He likened the planned Feb 25 concert to preparations for battle.

Meanwhile, Deputy Agriculture Minister Nattawut Saikuar said yesterday he has no plan to apologise to Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda over the UDD's past criticism of the statesman.

Mr Nattawut, a UDD core leader, said the organisation was launched as part of a quest for full democracy.

During political rallies, the UDD has attacked Gen Prem, believing he helped engineer the Sept 19, 2006 coup that toppled premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Mr Nattawut insisted he had no personal grievance against Gen Prem.

He said neither he nor Gen Prem expected an apology from one another. He said he saw no need to apologise because the issue at stake was the pursuit of democracy.

"But the people are waiting for national reconciliation to materialise, unity to be restored and democracy to be achieved," he said.

Gen Prem has accepted an invitation to preside over a party tomorrow to thank agencies involved in flood relief under the now-closed Flood Relief Operations Command (Froc).

Mr Nattawut said he will attend the party as a cabinet member, as it is an important event for the government. But he maintained he and Gen Prem had "no special agenda" to discuss during the party, and he did not want to be anyone's enemy.

The opposition has decried the party, saying it is in poor taste given that many people are still upset about the state's flood response last year, and still waiting for promised post-flood cash relief.

Of course Jatuporn is right again.
There is an ongoing plot to overthrow the democratically elected government.

The only real question is about the timing, and of course if the plotters have the balls to do it, now that the scumbags modus operandis has been well and truly outed to the international democratic community.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Mr Jatuporn said the gathering of red shirt supporters should discourage anyone who might be plotting a coup.

There's the key, every time there is not a coup he can claim to be the man who stopped it.....

The man's a fucking mong

Originally Posted by Hampsha

There's always a plan to stage a coup when any party but the democrats get in power.

Wrong. There's been more coups *against* the Democrats than any other party.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

4 coup claims in 2 years. Nothing has happened the previous 3 times.

And hopefully not this time either, or the country will descend into violent anarchy.
What is needed is for the Democrat Party to unequivocally state that it will not accept political power by illegal, treasonous means.

Good point, Sabang. The democrats always shilly-shally around this issue. The mere fact that they still endorse such a compromised, defeated and discredited leader as Abhisit indicates this.

What is also needed is that the Army needs to be called on the fact that they have not renounced the legitimacy of coups.

All they are saying is that they will not call a coup right now because there is no need for one. But they reserve the right to if...the monarchy is threatened, the country is in peril, politicians are corrupt... whatever. Remember, the Party of the Army wanted a State of Emergency for the floods so there's plenty of ways they could take over. As long as they adopt this stance, it is a completely reasonable response to see a coup around the corner.

The army are completely responsible for any coup fears and rumours because it is they who are responsible for the coups that engender these fears.


Also it is worth remembering that General Sonthi was denying that there would be a coup right up to September 19 2006. They are proven and persistent liars. They have form. Those they are in cahooots with are quite willing to manufacture spurious "evidence" such as the infamous mindmap of 2010 in order that their chosen ones could retain government. I see no reason why they wouldn't manufacture some plot or other in order to justify a coup. Their hysterical demonizing of Nithirat seems to suggest just such a possibility.

And as usual, here come the denials....same cycle as the last 2 years...


MCOT English News (@MCOT_Eng)

Posted Thursday 9th February 2012 from Twitlonger

Army chief says no hint received of coup plannned in April as claimed by Pheu Thai MP, Red Shirt leader Jatuporn; says the claim may violate security law

^So, what's the opposite of crying wolf?

Originally Posted by tomta

Good point, Sabang. The democrats always shilly-shally around this issue. The mere fact that they still endorse such a compromised, defeated and discredited leader as Abhisit indicates this.

What is also needed is that the Army needs to be called on the fact that they have not renounced the legitimacy of coups.

All they are saying is that they will not call a coup right now because there is no need for one. But they reserve the right to if...the monarchy is threatened, the country is in peril, politicians are corrupt... whatever. Remember, the Party of the Army wanted a State of Emergency for the floods so there's plenty of ways they could take over. As long as they adopt this stance, it is a completely reasonable response to see a coup around the corner.

The army are completely responsible for any coup fears and rumours because it is they who are responsible for the coups that engender these fears.


Also it is worth remembering that General Sonthi was denying that there would be a coup right up to September 19 2006. They are proven and persistent liars. They have form. Those they are in cahooots with are quite willing to manufacture spurious "evidence" such as the infamous mindmap of 2010 in order that their chosen ones could retain government. I see no reason why they wouldn't manufacture some plot or other in order to justify a coup. Their hysterical demonizing of Nithirat seems to suggest just such a possibility.

If you have power shared out among the triads, mafia and yardies, whats the point of only forcing the triads stop breaking the law?

Is it ok just because the mafia and yardies are more popular and 'cooler' than the triads?

I've got no idea what you're talking about, Longway. The only group that commits coups - breaking the nation's fundamental law - is The Army and its accompliceS.

^ Its a metaphor If you dont understand then mai bpen rai

Originally Posted by tomta

I've got no idea what you're talking about, Longway. The only group that commits coups - breaking the nation's fundamental law - is The Army and its accompliceS.

I agree, although I'm not sure if it isn't the army that qualifies as the accomplice.

I would simply put Sondhi and Jatuporn in a 3x3 cell and let them kill each other. Would be good for all of Thailand.

It gets worse...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...coup-guarantee

Army challenged to give 'no coup guarantee'

• Published: 9/02/2012 at 05:15 PM
• Online news: Security

Pheu Thai party-list MP Jatuporn Prompan has challenged national army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha to make a public announcement that the army will not stage a coup in April, and said there will be a red-shirt rally this month.


Pheu Thai party-list MP Jatuporn Prompan

"I've received the report of a coup from an army official who took part in the military crackdown on red-shirt protesters in April 2010, and it matches with another report from US intelligence," Mr Jatuporn said on Thursday.

Asked about a report that Gen Prayuth plans to legal action against him for making the coup claim, the red-shirt core member challenged the general to officially declare there will be no coup as long as he is in charge of the army.

"If Gen Prayuth can turn down anyone's proposal to carry out a coup, I'll praise him," he said.

Mr Jatuporn said he would like to thank Defence Minister Sukumpol Suwanatat for his advice on not talking about a coup.

The minister advised him to cease his comments.

"I would like ACM Sukumpol to help prevent another coup from happening, like the one on Sept 19, 2006," he said.

On the red-shirt's planned gathering on Feb 25, he said the anti-coup rally will be held at Bonanza resort in Khao Yai area of Nakhon Ratchasima province.

"I expect at least 500,000 people to show up and former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra will speak from abroad via a video link at the rally," said Mr Jatuporn.


Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra today played down Mr Jatuporn's coup claim and his call for supporters of the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship to prepare for a mass protest.

She said it was more likely that Mr Jatuporn's comments were intended only as a deterrent.

Ms Yingluck said she had not received any official report of the information Mr Jatuporn claimed to have obtained about a coup in the making.

She said that since the leaders of the armed forces had repeatedly confirmed there would not be a coup, everybody should rest assured that it would not happen.

"Mr Jatuporn, in making such remarks, might only want to pre-empt it happening. Since everyone has given assurances that will not happen, this matter should be put to an end," said the prime minister.

Asked whether she would rebuke Mr Jatuporn, Ms Yingluck said everybody had the right to express an opinion, but should understand the limits.

Defence Minister Sukumpol, when asked to comment, said Mr Jatuporn should keep quiet.

"Mr Jatuporn talks too much. He should not talk about this matter. It would be good if he could stop doing this," he said.

ACM Sukumpol said if he happened to meet Mr Jatuporn he would tell the red-shirt co-leader to calm down. He believed Mr Jatuporn would listen to him.

"I wonder why US intelligence would tell Mr Jatuporn (about the coup), but not tell us. This is ridiculous," he said.

The defence minister said he had repeatedly said there would not be a coup because nobody wanted to do it.

Originally Posted by Hampsha

There's always a plan to stage a coup when any party but the democrats get in power. The PAD-types would happily set up gas chambers if they could to get rid of the non-believers. Anytime they don't get what they want, it can't be right. It's totally cult thinking for them.

No they'd never do that - because they'd lose the only advantage they have - an indiginous darkskinned non-chinese prole slaveforce. Who'd suck up to them and wipe their kids' arses??

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Asked whether she would rebuke Mr Jatuporn, Ms Yingluck said everybody had the right to express an opinion, but should understand the limits.

That should upset a few of the red shits

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Defence Minister Sukumpol, when asked to comment, said Mr Jatuporn should keep quiet.

"Mr Jatuporn talks too much. He should not talk about this matter. It would be good if he could stop doing this," he said.

ACM Sukumpol said if he happened to meet Mr Jatuporn he would tell the red-shirt co-leader to calm down. He believed Mr Jatuporn would listen to him.

It gets worse for Jatuporn...

Thai-ASEAN News Network - US Embassy Spokesperson Denies Report about Coup

US Embassy Spokesperson Denies Report about Coup

UPDATE : 9 February 2012

ASTV has reported that the US Embassy spokesperson has denied the existence of a US intelligence report about a possible coup in April.

The claim was made by red-shirt Pheu Thai party-list MP Jatuporn Prompan who quoted a US military intelligence report.

Jatuporn has announced the new Red shirt fashion range:

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

US Embassy Spokesperson Denies Report about Coup

UPDATE : 9 February 2012

ASTV has reported that the US Embassy spokesperson has denied the existence of a US intelligence report about a possible coup in April.

He/she only denied the "existence" of the report since they're pretty sure Wikileaks doesn't have this one. "There can be no white wash at the White House!"

^

Originally Posted by Gerbil

ACM Sukumpol said if he happened to meet Mr Jatuporn he would tell the red-shirt co-leader to calm down. He believed Mr Jatuporn would listen to him.

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