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    Paul Murray : €248,000 welfare deception

    Jailed for €248,000 welfare deception
    CLAIRE O'BRIEN
    Friday, July 22, 2011

    A MAN who lived in Thailand and travelled back to Ireland to commit social welfare fraud claimed €248,000 under nine different names over 30 years.

    Paul Murray (63), of no fixed abode, was jailed for 12½ years at Mullingar Circuit Court for offences described as audacious and breathtaking.

    Judge Anthony Kennedy imposed a six-month sentence for each of 25 sample theft charges before the court and a concurrent sentence of three years for possession of a false passport. He said Murray had “shamelessly cheated the system” with “dizzying execution and control”, and commended gardaí and social welfare staff for their meticulous inquiry.

    Only €11,000 of the money remains in his seven bank accounts. The court also heard he received a €37,000 inheritance while he was lodging fake claims between 2002 and 2010.

    Murray was living in Thailand but returned here every three months to claim jobseeker’s allowance. He also fraudulently claimed disability and supplementary welfare allowances.

    Murray initially claimed disability allowance in 2005 when he was diagnosed with osteoporosis and osteoarthritis, but when he saw how easy it was to access the system, he used false documents to make further claims.

    Murray was caught when his brother Patrick in Australia innocently applied for the passport which Paul had already taken out in his name, tipping off passport officials, who contacted the Department of Social Protection.

    Despite being warned he would be in trouble, he returned home to sign on in Cavan on October 19th last, where Det Garda Peter Kelly was waiting for him. “You’ve caught me red-handed,” he told the officer, and showed him where about 50 supporting documents, many false, were hidden.

    He co-operated fully with the inquiry, which ran to six volumes of evidence and more than a hundred pages of interviews.

    Murray had served time in the UK in 1994 for similar offences there involving a total of £30,000.

    Giving evidence, Murray did not indicate any remorse for the cost to the State, but said he regretted the shame to his family. He said he came back to Ireland despite the warning about his brother’s passport application because “I didn’t believe I would be caught.” His own legitimate disability application became invalid when he was no longer resident in the State.

    At one point, Judge Kennedy stopped technical evidence to say he himself needed eyes in the back of his head to keep up with this “multifaceted fraudster”.

    “‘He thought he was immune,” concluded the judge, noting there was no plan to return the money. He refused leave to appeal severity of the sentence.

    irishtimes.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Paul Murray (63), of no fixed abode, was jailed for 12½ years
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Judge Anthony Kennedy imposed a six-month sentence for each of 25 sample theft charges
    I wonder if they are to run consecutive or concurrently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    social welfare fraud claimed €248,000 under nine different names over 30 years
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    he was lodging fake claims between 2002 and 2010
    So is it 30 years or 10 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid

    The court also heard he received a €37,000 inheritance while he was lodging fake claims between 2002 and 2010.
    my I humbly suggest you read the entire sentence ?

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    OK, read it again, still reads the same to me.

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    made claims over 30 yrs INCLUDING the period from '02 to '10 when he also received inheritance .

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    So 8266 GBP per year.
    Hardly enough to live on in Thailand

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    irony is, it'll cost the taxpayer a lot more then he stole to lock him up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    So 8266 GBP per year.
    plenty 30 yrs ago .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
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    So 8266 GBP per year.
    Hardly enough to live on in Thailand
    I dunno. I wish I had that much to live on.

    I bet STS wouldn't mind that much either, especially as it wasn't worked for.

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    His own legitimate disability application became invalid when he was no longer resident in the State.

    That's stupid, so long as his injury is legitimate and he is a citizen it's should be none of their business where he chooses to live. Much like denying expats cost of living increases, it says a lot about a Country when they resort to coercion to force people to live there.

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    Now if all the wankers who conned and ripped of the punters in the World Banks got the same sentence per $ they would be serving time for the next 2000 years.

    Dosey bollocks for going back. Once too many times to the well? So he cooperates and he gets the book thrown at him. Bet he stays quite the next time he is caught.

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    A thick Mick, to be sure.

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    I'm more interested in this filthy little benefit cheat minx myself.



    By JOHN COLES
    Published: 21 Jul 2011



    A BENEFITS cheat has been jailed for claiming £62,000 while working as a PORN model.

    Clare Evans, 32, pretended to be jobless but made up to £800 a month posing for explicit pictures.
    The mum of two - who is four months pregnant - kept up the con for six years, pocketing income support, housing benefit and council tax cash.

    Jailed ... cheat Clare Evans



    Evans was caught when suspicious council officials spotted a £40,000 Audi TT sports car on her driveway. Investigators then found a hoard of her top-shelf photo shoots.
    She also starred in hardcore lesbian nurse movie Pornomedics back in 2001 before she started fiddling.
    Evans, 32, of Pill, Somerset, admitted fraud at Bristol Crown Court. She wept as she was jailed for ten months.
    Judge Martin Picton told her: "Ten months is about as merciful as I can be."
    Last night a former porn colleague of Evans said: "She used to do a whole load of stuff. She was a regular."


    Read more: Benefits cheat Clare Evans' sex picture con job | The Sun |News

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    thanxs Noodles

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I'm more interested in this filthy little benefit cheat minx myself.
    then start a thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I'm more interested in this filthy little benefit cheat minx myself.
    then start a thread
    Why bother when there's a benefit cheat thread running already?


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    we know you are a twat Harry , no need to prove it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm more interested in this filthy little benefit cheat minx myself.



    By JOHN COLES
    Published: 21 Jul 2011



    A BENEFITS cheat has been jailed for claiming £62,000 while working as a PORN model.

    Clare Evans, 32, pretended to be jobless but made up to £800 a month posing for explicit pictures.
    The mum of two - who is four months pregnant - kept up the con for six years, pocketing income support, housing benefit and council tax cash.

    Jailed ... cheat Clare Evans



    Evans was caught when suspicious council officials spotted a £40,000 Audi TT sports car on her driveway. Investigators then found a hoard of her top-shelf photo shoots.
    She also starred in hardcore lesbian nurse movie Pornomedics back in 2001 before she started fiddling.
    Evans, 32, of Pill, Somerset, admitted fraud at Bristol Crown Court. She wept as she was jailed for ten months.
    Judge Martin Picton told her: "Ten months is about as merciful as I can be."
    Last night a former porn colleague of Evans said: "She used to do a whole load of stuff. She was a regular."


    Read more: Benefits cheat Clare Evans' sex picture con job | The Sun |News
    filthy minx
    good one Harry

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    These cases highlight the division between the West and the East and why we are ultimately doomed, economically.
    Welfare addiction is unaffordable, unwarranted and unnecessary.

    Any able bodied person, irrespective of status, should have their benefits ceased after 3 months of unemployment.

    Simple really. If they have no money then they can qualify for food stamps and free transport whilst they look for work. Similarly, if housing is a problem, they should be located in accommodation for the temporarily homeless until employment is gained. No money should enter the equation.

    Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Problem solved.


    and if they don't look for work whilst living on your benefits ?

    and when you throw them out on the street your crime rates ?

    and their innocent children ?

    not to mention the spectre of full employment is an economic nightmare for employers .....................

    solved indeed

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    Sentimental slush, Mid.

    Full employment is not a nightmare, we will always have migrants to draw upon.

    If they decline to seek work then the food stamps cease, as indeed does the free accommodation. Concentrates the mind wonderfully.

    The criminal untermensch will always be with us and no amount of benefits will alter that. It's therefore a corollary that to cease monetary benefits entirely will have no material effect. People in modern day Britain do not steal because they are hungry.

    Children are the responsibility of the parents, not the State. If they cannot provide then the State can assist but only on its terms. Parents look for work, they and their families get free board and food. If they choose to do otherwise then that's their business. Responsibility lies with the individual, not with the taxpayer.

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    keep dreaming

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    Precisely. Because the quaint notion that individuals should be solely responsible for their lives has somehow become unreal is why we are doomed.

    We cannot sacrifice growth for welfare indefinitely and already we see the wheels falling off.

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