Thread: Thai elections 2011-Thai PM sets stage for tough election

Originally Posted by Butterfly

shoot them,

Be a man
Kill someone
Kill yourself
Be a man
Be someone
Kill someone
Be a man
Kill yourself

Belsen- Pistols

^ Ideology? In Thai politics? At least you're entertaining!

Originally Posted by Calgary

These are more business oriented terms rather than political.

Precisely - and "syndicate" also carries an appropriate criminal connotation.

^

Originally Posted by The Nation

"I become the Democrat because I don't want to be known as the prostituting MP," he said.

From PT to BJT to Democrat.

"Prostituting"? Oh, I'm sure that's the last thing on anyone's mind about this sidewardly mobile MP.....

Guanpoj tipped to lead Chart Pattana Puea Pandin Party-list

13 May 2011

By The Nation


The Chart Pattana Peua Pandin will field 500 candidates with party financier Guanpoj Asvinvichit tipped for the number one slot on the party-list.

The party is scheduled on Saturday to hold a seminar for aspiring candidates to familiarise with campaigning rules.

Guanpoj stepped into the political limelight when he was appointed as deputy commerce minister under the Chart Pattana Party quota in the Chuan Leekpai government. Following the Chart Pattana-Thai Rak Thai merger, he joined the Thaksin Shinawatra administration as Thai trade representative.

He is seen as a close ally of faction leader Suwat Liptapanlop.

Onanong to contest Bangkok's Constituency 2

DEMOCRAT ABOUT-TURN
Onanong to contest Bangkok's Constituency 2

13 May 2011

By The Nation



Two Democrats, Onanong Kanjanachusak and ML Apimongkol Sonakul, have agreed to settle a problem arising from the redrawn voting zone following mediation on Friday by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

The party executive board initially picked Apimongkol to seek reelection in Bangkok's Constituency 2 under the singleseat system. Onanong, who shared the constituency under the multiseat system, threatened to quit the party.

After meeting with Abhisit, Apimongkol said he had sought and received the party's permission to switch to Constituency 3 in order to make way for Onanong.

Under the new arrangement, Onanong will run in Constituency 2 and aspiring candidate Sukij Kongthoranin will give up his Constituency 3 to contest the poll as a partylist candidate.

Meanwhile, police have invoked the ordnance law to dismantle a "no vote" campaign billboard.

The billboard, erected by the People's Alliance for Democracy on Rajdamnoen Avenue, depicted a lineup of five individuals with animal heads dressed in suits under the slogan "Don't Let Animals Enter Parliament".

Police spokesman Maj General Prawuth Thawornsiri said on Friday the billboard message was deemed inappropriate and that the PAD was not authorised to put up the billboard under the city ordnance.

Well, all of this just proves that Thailand at the moment is something that Orwell predicted.

Those of you who have read 1984 will remember that Winston Smith worked at the Ministry of Truth where his job was to delete and modify history. I've just seen that happen.

We cannot mention LM? Are these the rules?

Originally Posted by SteveCM

Mention of LM outside that sub-forum is arguably not quite as clear-cut.

Steve, you just mentioned LM

Originally Posted by tomta

We cannot mention LM? Are these the rules?

Originally Posted by SteveCM

Mention of LM outside that sub-forum is arguably not quite as clear-cut.

Steve, you just mentioned LM

I did - and the post containing it is still there intact whereas your preceding ones got deleted. From that I can only deduce that my amateur summary was broadly correct. While I know that TD moderation likes to stay out of sight, I do think this is one occasion when it would be good to have dependable input on what's allowed or not - regarding mention of LM.

Originally Posted by SteveCM

two Democrats, Onan

Dem's will fail to catch the irony.

Bangkok Post : Thaksin needs to cast spell

ABOUTPolitics

Thaksin needs to cast spell

Pheu Thai is relying on ousted PM's charisma to give party decisive edge as surveys indicate close poll

• Published: 14/05/2011 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

The opposition Pheu Thai Party has been a political brand built on the power and glory of former premier Thaksin Shinawatra.


Thaksin: Disheartened by survey

Thaksin means more to the party now than ever before, with the election approaching.

He is also more active in the party than at any time in the past year. His heavy presence, bolstered by frequent phone-in contacts and Skyping at party meetings, coincides with predictions that Pheu Thai and its rival Democrat Party will not win more than 200 seats each in the July 3 poll. Surveys by political pundits show that neither party is likely to win an outright majority.

Pheu Thai dismisses the predictions and insists it is likely to win about 270 seats of the 500 at stake.

The Democrats have conducted their own survey, which suggested they will capture more than the 160-plus seats they won at the 2007 general election.

The survey also suggested Pheu Thai is unlikely to do as well as its forerunner, the People Power Party, did in the previous election.

The PPP was dissolved for electoral fraud and Pheu Thai rose from its ashes.

In fact, the Democrats' survey suggested the Democrats and Pheu Thai will be locked in a close race, with the winning party scoring a victory margin of only up to 10 seats.

The Democrats believe they have expanded and consolidated their support during their almost three years in power despite falling out with their former ally, the People's Alliance for Democracy.

The PAD has urged its supporters to vote no in the poll. The Democrats believe they might lose some of their traditional supporters in the campaign but not a significant amount.

A Democrat source said Pheu Thai under the direction of Thaksin had surveyed voters to compare its potential candidates for prime minister _ Chalerm Yubamrung, Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, Mingkwan Sangsuwan and Yingluck Shinawatra, Thaksin's younger sister _ against Prime Minister and Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva.

The results of the survey found no Puea Thai candidate was able to outshine Mr Abhisit.

Disheartened Thaksin looked around and saw no one but himself who could compete with Mr Abhisit, according to the Democrat source.

Thaksin must be seen by supporters to be in control of the party to keep it from crumbling away through defections of members.

The former premier now phones in regularly from exile to members at party forums and red shirt gatherings.

He has even plugged Pheu Thai's election manifesto.

The source said Pheu Thai is well aware its policies alone will not win the day. It needs Thaksin to work his magic to maintain the party's upper hand in the election.

The Democrats believe that Pheu Thai is worried about its post-election future after trying to get parties to sign a joint declaration giving the party that wins the most seats the right to form the government first.

Pheu Thai is resigning itself to the likelihood that it will not score a landslide victory.

Re above State Media drivel....Post #258

And the state media misinformation campaign percolates right along.

I like this one..."The results of the survey found no Puea Thai candidate was able to outshine Mr Abhisit".

Another one of these infamous Polls.

Just mix among the majority Democracy Movement crowd and above quote could not generate more derision.

I feel sorry for the linguistically challenged Farangs who have no means of getting beyond this State Media stuff.

Originally Posted by Calgary

Re above State Media drivel....Post #258 And the state media misinformation campaign percolates right along. I like this one..."The results of the survey found no Puea Thai candidate was able to outshine Mr Abhisit". Another one of these infamous Polls. Just mix among the majority Democracy Movement crowd and above quote could not generate more derision. I feel sorry for the linguistically challenged Farangs who have no means of getting beyond this State Media stuff.

I agree with you 100% and it's boringgggggggggg to hear this drivel being pumped out day after day!

I'm one of the linguistically challenged Farangs but common sense tells me this government will hoodwink Thai's anyway they can despite most speaking the language fluently, unfortunatley many Thai voters are "mentally challenged and uneducated" and that's why this drivel is being pumped out everyday.

Originally Posted by SteveCM

While I know that TD moderation likes to stay out of sight, I do think this is one occasion when it would be good to have dependable input on what's allowed or not - regarding mention of LM.

Normally I'd agree with you but LM's at least a very dangerous subject to post let alone attempt to discuss, saying that I couldn't get any of my reply posts accepted on TD.


What you posted was a fair summary, I'll say no more than that because I think we know the answers anyway.

Thailand’s high-stakes gamble after crackdown - The Globe and Mail

One year later

Thailand’s high-stakes gamble after crackdown

MARK MacKINNON
BANGKOK— From Saturday's Globe and Mail

Published Friday, May. 13, 2011 7:01PM EDT
Last updated Friday, May. 13, 2011 10:25PM EDT


As bullets ricocheted through Bangkok’s Wat Pathum Wanaram temple during the violent climax of Thailand’s political crisis last spring, the woman known as Nurse Kate was just finishing treating one of the wounded when she saw another injured man lying near the entrance to the Buddhist temple.

Despite the firefight raging around her, the 25-year-old made her way to the new victim. Then, despite the green cross that was plain on her white vest, someone shot her dead.

The story of brave Nurse Kate, whose real name is Kamolkate Akkahad, is well known in Thailand. What isn’t agreed on, however, is who shot her three times as she was tending to the wounded inside the supposed sanctuary of a Buddhist temple, where some 2,000 others had taken refuge from the violence of that day.

Was she gunned down by an army sniper, as much of the evidence suggests, during the operation to bring an end to two months of rolling demonstrations by Red Shirt anti-government protesters in the commercial heart of Bangkok? Or was she killed by rogue protesters, perhaps the infamous Black Shirts who battled the army with automatic weapons, in an effort to turn more people against the government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva?

That such a question can still be asked speaks to the depth of the divide that persists in Thailand 12 months after the crackdown that left Nurse Kate and 90 others – most of them Red Shirt supporters – dead in the country’s worst political violence in modern history.

If you’re a supporter of Mr. Abhisit’s government (and thus of the ruling establishment, which includes the country’s military and monarchy), May 19, 2010, was the day the insanity of having the centre of Bangkok held hostage by the supporters of a fugitive politician was finally brought to an end.

If you’re a Red Shirt (and thus likely a fan of the exiled former prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra), there’s no question Nurse Kate was shot dead by a soldier, one more victim of the effort by the country’s elites to repress an uprising by the country’s poor and disadvantaged.

Much riding on election
Which narrative will be written, at least temporarily, into the history books will depend on who wins the general election campaign Mr. Abhisit launched this week when he asked the country’s King to dissolve parliament.

If Mr. Abhisit’s Democrat Party returns to office, the only people likely to face trial are the leaders of the Red Shirt movement, some of whom are already in prison or temporarily free on bail. If the opposition Pheu Thai (which will reportedly be led by Mr. Thaksin’s sister, Yingluck Shinawatra) forms the next government, they’re promising to prosecute Mr. Abhisit and others involved in ordering the May 19 crackdown.

Precisely because the stakes are so high, many worry that this country of 64 million people, Southeast Asia’s second-largest economy, is heading into another period of turbulence.

“This could be the most violent election ever, both during the campaign and even after,” said Surat Horachaikul, an assistant professor of political science at Bangkok’s Chulalongkorn University.

Both the Democrats and the Red Shirts bluntly warn that there could be a return to street violence if the other side takes power after the election.

The polls suggest Pheu Thai, the political wing of the Red Shirt movement, will win the largest number of votes, if not an outright majority in Thailand’s 500-seat parliament on July 3. Despite a full-out push by the Democrats to win over the rural poor who form the backbone of the Red Shirt movement, the north and northeast of the country – where Mr. Thaksin is revered as the man who introduced cheap health care and rural development programs – remain firmly Red Shirt territory, as are poorer parts of Bangkok.


[1st page of 3-page article - click link for the rest]

^^^ At this time with a so called "free and fair election" coming soon, I'd say this was a well balanced and well written article and probably one that will be clear to Farangs, unfortunately I'm not sure the undecided Thais could possibly understand it.

Great pity really, it needs to be translated with nothing getting lost in the translation.

What is clear is how the military leader is digging himself deeper and deeper into politics, day by day. He needs to be got rid of, then we can consider a free election and potential democracy at some point down the road.

Day by day this lunatic military leader is entrenching himself visibly at the heart of politics. Any people, such as Abhisit and Suthep, that enable and support him are an utter disgrace and traitors to democracy.

Originally Posted by SteveCM

The story of brave Nurse Kate, whose real name is Kamolkate Akkahad, is well known in Thailand.

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From Twitter today:



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Bangkok Post : Thaksin

Breakingnews >

Thaksin’s aide denies allegations

• Published: 14/05/2011 at 01:28 PM
• Online news: Local News

The general election is the solution to the country’s political conflict and it allows people to choose their representatives and government, not for whitewashing anyone as alleged, Noppadon Pattama said on Saturday.

Mr Noppadon, a legal advisor to ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinnawatra, was responding to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s remark at the election campaign in Ratchaburi yesterday that if Pheu Thai wins at the polls and becomes a government, there would be unrest in the country.

He was also responding to the remark by Deputy Prime Minister for security affairs Suthep Thaugsuban that Thaksin wants Pheu Thai to win the election so it can hold power to whitewash him.

Mr Noppadon said he did not want to make word war with Mr Abhisit and Mr Sthep on the allegations because he knows well what they both are thinking about the ex-premier.

“The Democrats had been beaten by Thaksin's party in all general elections in the past years. Only one time that the Democrat Party was not defeated was the election that it boycotted,” he said.

He called on Mr Suthep to think of the election in a positive way and respects the decision of the majority of voters. The Democrat Party should not try to form the next government if it does not win most votes at the coming polls, he added.