Thread: Eight killed in latest van horror

Originally Posted by DroversDog

I am waiting for BF to say that toll roads are only for Hi-So's and the van should never have been there in the first place.

actually now you are saying it, it does sound like a good idea

why would the cattle need the tollway anyway ? they drive slow, put all kind of dangerous shit in the back, and they cut you without even looking. They are a danger to themselves and others. They would be better off in the slow moving traffic with the motocy. It's not like their time is valuable anyway

these were a few extreme cases well publicized,

but I hear all the time from Issaan villages, stories about no so hiso Thai doing runners or other bad things and not face any responsibility or justice as the cops don't even bother, even when it includes rape or stealing cash from desperate people

the issue is not the Thai class, they will all do it, the average Thai will try to get away with it with his own resources and not face consequences. Those moaning about the elite situation are those jealous because they can't have access to those resources. If they had, they would use them, no doubt, so again it's the same double standard. They are envious fuckers, so don't take the current outcry situation as anything else.

The real responsibilities lies again in the police force, they are too lazy or brain dead to enforce their own laws

if the police were actually doing their job, all these ridiculous situations wouldn't be happening,

and it would send a clear message to all the hiso and loso, responsibility for your actions, that's where it starts, not with a lynching mob

Originally Posted by Butterfly

ironically the van driver was probably not going fast enough in the left lane,

I have seen that too, slow moving vehicle in the left lane, and that's also a danger

the answer could start with a speed limit device on those van to be licensed and a requirement for them not to be on the left lane

A truer answer might suggest that drivers {in general} pay attention to what the fvck their doing. I don't think I could fault the van driver, even if he/she was driving under a suggested speed limit. Cuntish drivers are cuntish drivers regardless of their speed.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

The “Seven Dangerous Days” of the New Year holidays this year have been set for December 29, 2010 to January 4, 2011 by the government. During the days, authorities have been ordered to closely monitor and ensure public safety as well as promote road safety for the millions of Thais sure to be traveling for the holidays.

Proof that 'The Thailand Road Safety Centre' is a contradiction in terms.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

The real responsibilities lies again in the police force, they are too lazy or brain dead to enforce their own laws

if the police were actually doing their job, all these ridiculous situations wouldn't be happening,

and it would send a clear message to all the hiso and loso, responsibility of your actions, that's where it starts, not with a lynching mob

Butters, it is true that the police don't enforce the traffic laws like they should (e.g. ever see a motorcycle cop chasing a speeding vehicle in LOS? Never)

But any offence involving a Hi-So where a custodial sentence would be appropriate is either never passed down, is suspended, or simply never served (e.g. Moo Ham). It's the opposite when it involves some average Thai.

Even just a court agreeing culpability and liabilty against a Hi-So is unlikely as it involves loss of face. Unacceptable to them if the winning party is of lower social status

By the way, I noticed many posts back that an alternate story is being spun (on Nation TV - who else) saying that the girl's car never actually hit the van. The suggestion is the van ran into someone else in front of it (red paint) then lost control. The girl crashed into the barrier separately.

Let's see if they try to spin that one some more. The van driver is dead as are the passengers in the forward part of the van. Hence, no eye witnesses.

There will be a full court press by the elites behind this Sakdina family to deflect the blame away from the girl. They be trying a million different scenarios til they get one that blames the van.. just wait.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

It's that sense of helpless injustice that Thais feel and are expressing right now -- and with good reason. They remember: 1. Moo Ham (angrily drove his rich daddy's Benz into a crowded bus stop because the passengers were taunting him - killing one, maiming others. More tha 10 year sentence - never served). 2. Duang Chalerm (son of Chalerm the mafia cop/politician) who killed a cop point-blank in a nightclub, fled to Cambodia, later came back once it was clear a court wouldn't convict him. The wind is really beginning to blow through the forest. The anger is mounting at the injustices. You can feel it - it ain't just the reds.

Whilst i agree that the 2 people mentioned should indeed have received and served custodial sentences for their incredibly serious criminal acts, the same cannot be said about this particular case.

It would appear that it was an accident, there simply cannot be any criminal liability attached to such a collision. The responsibilty attached to the young lady and her parents for driving without a licence/insurance will also not involve a custodial sentence.

We should not confuse the two very seperate issues involving past criminal incidents.

In such circumstances as this, it would bode well for the parents to accept responsibilty and offer full financial compensation to the families at the earliest opportunity. This would placate the ill feeling (some of which seems to have spiralled out of control) toward their daughter merely because she is in a privileged position. To not do so would indeed give rise to further discussion and contempt for those that abuse their status.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home...-30145486.html

Another van accident victim dies, raising death toll to 9

Another victim of the van accident on the Don Mueng Tollway succumbed to her injuries late Wednesday night, raising the death toll to nine.

Janjira Suemkrathok, a student of Thammasat University, was pronounced dead at 15 minutes after midnight.

The Nation

As soon as you use your influence to corrupt the press coverage or the legal process, i.e double standards, in this country you are making the crime a political issue and that almost certainly responsible for the vitriol that is aimed at this girl, although a large fraction of it should be flying towards whoever gave her the weapon.

If she was accepting her culpability for her actions, if she was subjecting herself to the judgement of the courts; then I think she would get some sympathy. At the end of the day however she was 16 and driving underaged, without insurance and involved in a fatal accident for which she does at the very least have some culpability. I don't think many people truly believe that she should be locked up for life or killed for this crime. but she should get a sentence which is harsh compared to what a 16 year old would get for shoplifting, I think everyone including the relatives of those killed would accept this; however i suspect that the only punishment she will get is a taksin like self imposed exile from thailand, until the statue of limitations kicks in; as such she and her family deserve all thats being thrown at them.

Anger at double standards that exist in this country is the one thing that unites people I know in thailand. I can see 'no more double standards' being a powerful slogan in the next election; one that the democrats are increasingly making themselves vulnerable too. Limp comments and lies like 'nobody's above the law' from the PM just inflame the bitterness of the injustice. Its stupid that PT are likely to successfully reap the wind that these hiso's are sowing with their double standards despite the fact that PT members seem to make more use of the system than anyone else.... they did after all see chalerm as PM material.

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

It would appear that it was an accident

speeding , travelling too close to the vehicle in front , driving without a valid licence , no licence thus no insurance ?

accident

ps , anyone breathalyze the drivers ?

rhetorical ................

Originally Posted by Butterfly

The real responsibilities lies again in the police force, they are too lazy or brain dead to enforce their own laws

if the police were actually doing their job, all these ridiculous situations wouldn't be happening,

and it would send a clear message to all the hiso and loso, responsibility for your actions, that's where it starts, not with a lynching mob

It's a goddamned free-for-all out there. It's almost as if the powers that be don't give a shit.

"Janjira Suemkrathok, a student of Thammasat University" RIP, kid. Thailand needs to start giving a damn.

Originally Posted by socal

what should she do, kill herself ?

Of course not- she should face justice, like everyone else.
I would like to think those people she killed are her worst punishment really.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

The suggestion is the van ran into someone else in front of it (red paint) then lost control. The girl crashed into the barrier separately.

Yes it had to be 'red' paint.... It Thaksin's Fault.

It was on the car rather then the van wasn't it?

He also found a red mark on the front of the car, suggesting a third vehicle might have been involved.

Maybe she had a previous altercation with a red car.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

By the way, I noticed many posts back that an alternate story is being spun (on Nation TV - who else) saying that the girl's car never actually hit the van. The suggestion is the van ran into someone else in front of it (red paint) then lost control. The girl crashed into the barrier separately.

Let's see if they try to spin that one some more. The van driver is dead as are the passengers in the forward part of the van. Hence, no eye witnesses.

There will be a full court press by the elites behind this Sakdina family to deflect the blame away from the girl. They be trying a million different scenarios til they get one that blames the van.. just wait.

yes, it was from an article I posted...interesting....!

Or bizarre.

I hope you are wrong, but the 'reality distortion field' maybe getting warmed up at this very moment....certainly the odd conclusion that a "crash investigator" allegedly came to is most peculiar.

However, another investigator has gone on record saying something completely different...and then there's the CCTV.....and there will be witnesses.

So, fingers crossed justice is served.

A positive thought, but yet unrealistic. The avoidance and misdirection is already underway regarding this wayward hiso lass - not absorbing much in the Thai news as to any such outcome. The reporters and journalists are trained well not to pursue such a "sensitive" issues or related points to challenge.

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by Butterfly

The real responsibilities lies again in the police force, they are too lazy or brain dead to enforce their own laws

if the police were actually doing their job, all these ridiculous situations wouldn't be happening,

and it would send a clear message to all the hiso and loso, responsibility for your actions, that's where it starts, not with a lynching mob

It's a goddamned free-for-all out there. It's almost as if the powers that be don't give a shit.

"Janjira Suemkrathok, a student of Thammasat University" RIP, kid. Thailand needs to start giving a damn.

Yep, just 22 years old....

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

It would appear that it was an accident

speeding , travelling too close to the vehicle in front , driving without a valid licence , no licence thus no insurance ?

accident

Do you require insurance when you are filthy rich? Whats the point? Make them pay it out of their own pocket first if they can afford it.

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Tawatchai Laosirihongthong, who is investigating the accident for the Land Transport Department, said the girl might have lost control of her vehicle first.

He has found a mark on the wall of the tollway that was probably left by the car. The car carries a similar mark on its right side, he said. The car is also marked on its left front side while the van carries signs of a collision on its right front side.

He assumed, based on the evidence, that the sedan was in the right lane when it lost control and hit the wall. It slid into the middle lane where it collided with the van, said Mr Tawatchai, also head of the Traffic and Transport Development and Research Centre at King Mongkut’s University of Technology Thonburi.

He also found a red mark on the front of the car, suggesting a third vehicle might have been involved.

“We need to investigate further why the driver of the car lost control,” he said.

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People surnamed "Na Ayudhaya" in Thailand generally don't have to give a shit about things like other people, or what they might think.
Two weeks later everyone will have forgotten anyway.

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Photos of Preawa in hospital....allegedly....

The comments are nasty. I wont post the pics.

24 killed in 393 road accidents, 425 injured on first day of "Dangerous Seven Days"

24 killed in 393 road accidents, 425 injured on first day of "Dangerous Seven Days"

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