Thread: Phuket Manhunt for Expat Killer: Englishman Knifes American to Death

In the toilet, police say other patrons in the bar told them, the American bragged about his strength, without knowing that the Englishman was also a muay Thai exponent

Muay Thai, or cockfighting?

These guys are under 25 and they are killing each other. They are losers. These kind of guys think they are in a movie.

This happens every night in Vancouver Canada where I am from but its usually about women.

I come to Thailand to get away from this kind of BS.

Originally Posted by socal

These guys are under 25 and they are killing each other. They are losers. These kind of guys think they are in a movie.

This happens every night in Vancouver Canada where I am from but its usually about women.

I come to Thailand to get away from this kind of BS.

Wrong place then; try the dark side of the moon!

Originally Posted by socal

These guys are under 25 and they are killing each other. They are losers. These kind of guys think they are in a movie.

This happens every night in Vancouver Canada where I am from but its usually about women.

I come to Thailand to get away from this kind of BS.

really...? Every night?.....west end, gas town, east end, china town....555
shall ask my son, a Van cop about that..methinks Vancouver is not really that bad ..mostly drunk rubbies and domestics.....555

Unfortunately idiots like these are coming over here in their droves to learn "muay Thai". Most of them on the 'roids too.

Real hard men shit 'em.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

The two engaged in a drunken fight and the American won.

Fair and square

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

About 5am, police believe, the Englishman caught up with the American at the resort and stabbed the American twice.

Sore loser

I'd consider the dead one the biggest loser myself.....

Originally Posted by Bobcock

I'd consider the dead one the biggest loser myself.....

the other guy will spend the rest of his life in jail. I personally would rather die.

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Bobcock

I'd consider the dead one the biggest loser myself.....

the other guy will spend the rest of his life in jail. I personally would rather die.

Are you sure of this? I thought a Farang only got 90 days for killing another Farang.

It may be just a case of simplistic reporting but I am surprised the grounds for the appeal do not include the reasonable argument that Aldhouse would be unlikely to receive a fair trial in Thailand if returned there. Still, from the judge's comments it seems he will have his appeal.

That May woman is clearly suffering from some sort of hormone deficiency.

Originally Posted by Zampan0

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Bobcock

I'd consider the dead one the biggest loser myself.....

the other guy will spend the rest of his life in jail. I personally would rather die.

Are you sure of this? I thought a Farang only got 90 days for killing another Farang.

Actually there's a few cases I'm aware of where the farang murderer of a farang in Thailand were sentenced for murder and the sentences were less then 3 years.

Not taking in good behaviour.

'Police said that about 4.30am, the American left the bar'.

So its the fault of the Police as the Bar should closed and everyone tucked up in bed by then.

Phuket Expats Turn to Killing and Crime: Ugly Underbelly Exposed - Phuket Wan

The tattooed man, allegedly the killer, leaves a Phuket 7-Eleven store with knifes







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Phuket Expats Turn to Killing and Crime: Ugly Underbelly Exposed

By Alan Morison
Saturday, August 14, 2010
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IN THE past few weeks, the breezy, balmy image of Phuket as a peaceful tropical island holiday destination for longstay tourists and residents has been blown asunder.

A German arrested for burglary . . . a Frenchman accused of stealing from a fellow traveller at Phuket airport . . . an American who admitted to stabbing to death a naked bar girl . . . and now, an Englishman on the run over the apparent revenge murder of a young American.

This will shock most expat residents, especially those who, until the past few weeks, preferred to imagine that all the crimes on Phuket were committed by Thais or tourists.

On Internet chat sites, some of them have even defended the character of expat residents in general and attempted to imply that the expat community is a model of social tolerance and cohesion.

With the manhunt now on for ''Mr Lee,'' the Englishman whom police believe stabbed to death American Dashawn Longfellow early today, that facade has finally fallen.

Expat residents and long-stay tourists, it appears, are just as liable to the human frailties that assail people in all the other places beyond Phuket.

And Thai locals, long criticised unfairly for the actions of a few scamsters and rip-off merchants, are now entitled to begin to wonder why so many expats are turning out to be criminals and thugs.

Today's dramatic murder on Phuket was preceded by revelations earlier this week of the thuggery of British and European criminals in the property industry of Huan Hin, a resort south of Bangkok, and the Old Bailey guilty verdict for Paul Cryne, an expat hitman who flew from Thailand to kill a disabled woman in Britain.

These cases follow the slaying of Sweethearts Bar hostess Wanpen Pianchai by American Ronald Fanelli, one of the most savage killings Phuket has experienced.

Today's killing raises even more questions about the Phuket community. While a wealthy Russian recently paid US$24 million for a villa on a beach just north of Phuket, it's plain that not every visitor who arrives at Phuket airport is so well-heeled - or well-intentioned.

Questions will probably also be asked by the Thai authorities about the mixture of drinking and Thai kick-boxing that appear to have been ingredients in the latest killing. Bars are supposed to shut by 1am. This one was still going at 4.30am, police officers say.

As the popularity of muay Thai boxing has grown around the world, camps for Thai boxing have flourished throughout the island, but especially in the Rawai and Chalong regions, to the island's south. Some expats who come for these camps are not as committed to the principles that Thai exponents of the sport follow.

There can be an absence of the self-discipline that many traditional Thai kick-boxers show. Mix the holiday island atmosphere with testosterone and alcohol, often served at bars where nobody is ever refused service for being intoxicated, and you have the ingredients for deep trouble.

Tourist industry officials say Phuket is moving up-market, with more four-star and five-star customers coming. That may be true, but the discounts forced on resorts by political violence in Bangkok earlier in the year also mean more people with less obvious wealth are able to afford holidays on Phuket.

Those who live on Phuket, those who come for a holiday and decide to stay, or those who come for a specific purpose, are clearly just as susceptible to the less desirable human passions and emotions as any other group.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

And Thai locals, long criticised unfairly for the actions of a few scamsters and rip-off merchants

The criticism is entirely fair as the locals allow the scammers to operate.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Some expats who come for these camps are not as committed to the principles that Thai exponents of the sport follow.

Many Thai boxers are thugs and criminals, so that's a lot of utter tripe.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Tourist industry officials say Phuket is moving up-market, with more four-star and five-star customers coming.

Alcohol has to be available 24 hours, 7 days a week and 365 days a year for somewhere to qualify for a true five star rating.

There are several in Hong Kong.

And people are still doubting that a police clearance check is going to be required for all non imm visas soon. ROFL

Thinning out the riff-raff would be a good thing.