Thread: Thailand : Majority Backs Government’s Crackdown

ask around in Bangkok, and you will see that the answers are in line with the poll

the peasant in Issaan are irrelevant in the poll, first they don't vote, they sell it, and second they probably couldn't understand the question

You'd want a bit more information on this poll before really enjoying ripping into it.

I was chatting to a few die-hard Abhisit supporters today (doctors, they all seem to be Abhisit/PAD supporters), and they were very much against the crackdown and kept claiiming Abhisit has no power and would never do such awful things.

I can't repeat the rumours they told me about Suthep's future, but think Tom Berenger films...

Originally Posted by Gerbil

Originally Posted by Simon43

For me, the fact that the pro-governments have a majority is not important.

What is very important is that this poll indicates that the Thai people are split! - half support the government, just under half do not and a small % has (presumably), no fcuking clue.

If that is not a recipe for civil war, I don't know what is...

Simon

No, sounds like a normal democracy to me.

Read the question carefully. Even folks like me that sympathize with the initial Red Shirt goals would consider the non lethal action of cutting water and electricity acceptable as a means of peacefully ending the standoff.
For people, to have expressed a negative response suggests that there is a lot of "hard core" support for the Red Shirts. Had the question been, were you in favour of using live ammunition and snipers resulting in the shooting of unarmed protestors and of visible journalists, the result would have been a resounding no. When a sizeable number voices resistance to even legitimate non violent measures, it does indicate a problem exists and it does indeed lead one to conclude that the seeds have been sown for continued conflict. Sorry, but Simon has it right.

Originally Posted by chitown

Panda - what will these polls on "election" day you are talking about really matter?

The democrats will lose and the Reds and Puea Thai party will win. This will be followed by the Yellows taking over an aiport or something simliar without any charges filed or military / police action. Then a coup or judicial coup resulting in the Democrats being back in office. The elites will not loosen the grip on this country through an election. The ugly truth is that blood and lots of it will no doubt have to be shed in order for the current class system to be brought down.

Absolutely true ,an election is pointless.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

You'd want a bit more information on this poll before really enjoying ripping into it.

I was chatting to a few die-hard Abhisit supporters today (doctors, they all seem to be Abhisit/PAD supporters), and they were very much against the crackdown and kept claiiming Abhisit has no power and would never do such awful things.

I can't repeat the rumours they told me about Suthep's future, but think Tom Berenger films...

I think they're probably right but don't imagine for one moment that Abhisit will not enjoy the same attention.


And a few others.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by chitown

Panda - what will these polls on "election" day you are talking about really matter?

The democrats will lose and the Reds and Puea Thai party will win. This will be followed by the Yellows taking over an aiport or something simliar without any charges filed or military / police action. Then a coup or judicial coup resulting in the Democrats being back in office. The elites will not loosen the grip on this country through an election. The ugly truth is that blood and lots of it will no doubt have to be shed in order for the current class system to be brought down.

Agreed, I've written very much the same thing myself on several occasions.

There's no end in sight for this madness. Whoever gets in power, the other faction will raise hell, seemingly just because...

And around and around we will go.

Something has to give.

The only other real worry is if the military decide to step out from the shadows of the Prime Minister and enact a Burma-esque style dictatorship.

However, other events in the near future may make all of this irrelevant.

Right now I'm dreading thinking about what Thailand may be like in only a few years, these may be halcyon days by comparison...

The military are certainly the root cause of Thailands ongoing political problems.
The way it works in Thailand now is that the military controls the government and the government controls the people. When in a true democracy, the people control the government and the government controls the military.

Thailand is little more than a pseudo democracy controlled by the military and their elite class backers. Backers who ascent to the highest levels.

Originally Posted by Panda

The military are certainly the root cause of Thailands ongoing political problems.
The way it works in Thailand now is that the military controls the government and the government controls the people. When in a true democracy, the people control the government and the government controls the military.

Thailand is little more than a pseudo democracy controlled by the military and their elite class backers. Backers who ascent to the highest levels.

You obviously hate it there - why do you continue to live there?

Originally Posted by chitown

This will be followed by the Yellows taking over an aiport or something simliar without any charges filed or military / police action.

PAD yellow-clad activists took over Bangkok’s international airport—where the government had been working from after its offices were invaded in August

I had thought the govt moved to Don Muang

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Panda

The military are certainly the root cause of Thailands ongoing political problems.
The way it works in Thailand now is that the military controls the government and the government controls the people. When in a true democracy, the people control the government and the government controls the military.

Thailand is little more than a pseudo democracy controlled by the military and their elite class backers. Backers who ascent to the highest levels.

You obviously hate it there - why do you continue to live there?

because like you, he is a part-time sex tourist and has no clue

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

You obviously hate it there - why do you continue to live there?

What a valuable contribution . . . it shows just how clueless and inept you are, Daffy

Originally Posted by sabang

No details of where they took their surveys- so, where do you think? It's a Bangkok university.

Given that obvious slant, one winders why they didn't have a Stalin-esque 99% supporting the crackdown

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Panda

The military are certainly the root cause of Thailands ongoing political problems.
The way it works in Thailand now is that the military controls the government and the government controls the people. When in a true democracy, the people control the government and the government controls the military.

Thailand is little more than a pseudo democracy controlled by the military and their elite class backers. Backers who ascent to the highest levels.

You obviously hate it there - why do you continue to live there?

That can be turned around Daffy, you silly ducker. You seem to love it here why do you continue to live there? Or do you need to save up for your yearly shag?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

You obviously hate it there - why do you continue to live there?

What a valuable contribution . . . it shows just how clueless and inept you are, Daffy

It only shows how afraid you are to answer a simple question.

Let me guess at why - "Because you have to"?

Originally Posted by Myofb

That can be turned around Daffy, you silly ducker. You seem to love it here why do you continue to live there? Or do you need to save up for your yearly shag?

No turn around on that one - I love certain places as ideal vacation destinations, which is why I enjoy my 4-5 trips of 2 weeks each every year - and also the same reason why I do not see Thailand as 'live in' destination, for me.

How about you?

(see, I have absolutely no problem answering the same question - how about you, eh?)

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

You obviously hate it there - why do you continue to live there?

What a valuable contribution . . . it shows just how clueless and inept you are, Daffy

It only shows how afraid you are to answer a simple question.

Let me guess at why - "Because you have to"?

You make less sense with every post where you try to justify your ridiculous posts

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Myofb

That can be turned around Daffy, you silly ducker. You seem to love it here why do you continue to live there? Or do you need to save up for your yearly shag?

No turn around on that one - I love certain places as ideal vacation destinations, which is why I enjoy my 4-5 trips of 2 weeks each every year - and also the same reason why I do not see Thailand as 'live in' destination, for me.

*and* you get your yearly shag?

How about you?

(see, I have absolutely no problem answering the same question - how about you, eh?)

I retired here because it is warmer and my tolerance to wet cold weather and miserable people is not what it used to be. Ironic really, I am here now and I still get to talk to the odd miserable and not very bright ne'er-do-well.

Originally Posted by panama hat

You make less sense with every post where you try to justify your ridiculous posts

...yet you continue to desperately avoid to answer - why is that?

Originally Posted by Myofb

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Myofb

That can be turned around Daffy, you silly ducker. You seem to love it here why do you continue to live there? Or do you need to save up for your yearly shag?

No turn around on that one - I love certain places as ideal vacation destinations, which is why I enjoy my 4-5 trips of 2 weeks each every year - and also the same reason why I do not see Thailand as 'live in' destination, for me.

*and* you get your yearly shag?

Wow, I must be doing really badly of only getting one shag a year out of 6-8 vacations each year.

Also, I didn't know that 'shags per annum' were some kind of competitive currency.

Originally Posted by Myofb

I retired here because it is warmer and my tolerance to wet cold weather and miserable people is not what it used to be.

So, you're old and the constant traveling took its toll on your to get your yearly shag, so you moved here in order to get your yearly shag easier - did I get that right?

Originally Posted by Myofb

Ironic really, I am here now and I still get to talk to the odd miserable and not very bright ne'er-do-well.

Hey, don't blame me for picking the wrong 'friends' - you could start by not hanging out with the usual idiots. you know, Sabang, mid, Tom Sawyer... your buddies...

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Myofb

Ironic really, I am here now and I still get to talk to the odd miserable and not very bright ne'er-do-well.

Hey, don't blame me for picking the wrong 'friends' - you could start by not hanging out with the usual idiots. you know, Sabang, mid, Tom Sawyer... your buddies...

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

...yet you continue to desperately avoid to answer - why is that?

You had a question? A question that was germane to the topic? I'd love to see it.

Originally Posted by panama hat

You had a question? A question that was germane to the topic? I'd love to see it.

Desperate avoidance to answer, noted.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by panama hat

You had a question? A question that was germane to the topic? I'd love to see it.

Desperate avoidance to answer, noted.

Yet again you don't understand: You had a question? A question that was germane to the topic?

If you frame the question carefully enough you can engineer any result you want. Worthless poll questions, in my view.