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    Thailand's Tourist Appeal Wanes as Gripes Over Price Hikes and Dodgy Systems Mount

    Thailand, once a magnet for budget-conscious backpackers and sun-seekers alike, is facing a growing backlash from international tourists.





    A surge of online criticism, with nearly 2,000 comments flooding a Bangkok Post Learning social media post, reveals widespread dissatisfaction with the kingdom's current tourism landscape.





    Travellers are increasingly voicing concerns over inflated prices, a discriminatory two-tier pricing system, outdated bureaucracy, and the now-commonplace aroma of cannabis in holiday hotspots.





    An analysis by Krungthep Turakij, sifting through some 800 of these online missives with the aid of artificial intelligence, has identified four key areas of concern.





    Foremost among these is the perception that a holiday in Thailand no longer offers the value for money it once did.








    Prices Through the Roof


    The overwhelming sentiment is that Thailand has ceased to be a cost-effective destination. Accommodation costs in popular tourist areas, in particular, have seen eye-watering increases.





    One disgruntled visitor to Koh Samui recounted: "The same hotel I paid 2,000 baht a night for five years ago now demands 6,000 baht." A European traveller in Pattaya was similarly aghast, reporting a 180-euro (around 7,000 baht) bill for a two-person dinner, sans alcohol.





    While acknowledging global inflation, many feel that price hikes in Thailand have far outstripped typical inflationary pressures.





    One European tourist put it bluntly: "Hotels jacking up prices from $100 to $200-300 a night can't be blamed on normal inflation. It's pure greed, that is."

    Beyond accommodation and dining, the cost of getting to Thailand is also a major sticking point.





    "I used to snag a flight to Thailand for just $300, but now it's nearly $1,000," lamented an American traveller. A Briton echoed this sentiment, stating: "I forked out £1,200 (about 54,000 baht) for my flight this year."





    Even Thai nationals are feeling the pinch.





    "As a Thai person, I can't even afford to travel in my own country anymore. Accommodation prices are too high, especially during holidays," one local resident complained.




    A Thai woman added: "Being truly Thai, I can barely afford flight tickets or book decent hotels for a beach holiday in the south. It's too expensive for us locals."




    Dodgy Systems, Visa Hassle, and a 30-Day Limit


    Another significant bone of contention is the cumbersome and complex visa and immigration procedures, notably the TDAC system and the requirement for online registration three days prior to arrival.




    "It's an unnecessary faff, especially for older folk who aren't tech-savvy," a German tourist grumbled. Furthermore, the reduction of the tourist visa duration from 60 to 30 days has irked long-stay visitors.



    Cannabis Clouding the Appeal: "You Can Smell It Everywhere..."


    Thailand's image is also suffering from the liberalisation of cannabis laws, which some perceive as attracting a less desirable type of tourist.





    An Australian mother shared: "Our family didn't enjoy the constant smell of cannabis everywhere we went, especially with young children in tow."





    A British tourist lamented, "It's not the country I remember. Now there are people stoned on cannabis all over the place."

    Two-Tier Pricing: A Clear Case of Picking Favourites


    Another major source of irritation is the inconsistent pricing structure that distinguishes between Thai nationals and foreign visitors.





    A German tourist recounted: "I had to cough up 200 baht to enter a national park, while my girlfriend only paid 40 baht because she looks Thai. That's blatant discrimination."





    This practice of inflated prices for foreigners extends to various services, from tourist sites and restaurants to transport.



    Neighbours Offer Better Bang for Buck


    Many travellers are drawing unfavourable comparisons with neighbouring countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, and the Philippines, which are increasingly seen as offering better value for money.




    "I spent three months in Vietnam but only one month in Pattaya. That tells you something," one tourist remarked. Another added, "Cambodia has decent hotels for just $10 a night, and their festivals are brilliant too."





    The comparisons across Southeast Asia are stark.





    An Australian tourist noted, "Vietnam is rapidly improving its infrastructure, with high-speed trains, clean beaches, and the Vietnamese people are so welcoming to tourists."




    A Briton observed, "Boracay in the Philippines is far more beautiful than Koh Samui. The water's clearer, the sand's cleaner, and the accommodation prices aren't outrageous."




    One comment highlighted the shifting value proposition: "Japan isn't that much more expensive than Thailand these days. I was in Tokyo recently and found food prices weren't higher than in Bangkok, and the service was far better, cleaner, and safer."


    A European traveller compared: "Malaysia has better infrastructure, diverse and delicious food, and you don't get the tourist scams."


    Indonesia and Sri Lanka also received mentions.


    "Bali has cheaper accommodation and food than Thailand, a strong culture, and stunning beaches," a Dutch tourist offered.




    A British traveller suggested, "Sri Lanka is a fantastic destination with affordable luxury hotels, beautiful scenery, and friendly locals."




    Quality Concerns and Tourist Swarms


    The standard of tourist attractions is another key concern. A Scandinavian tourist revealed, "The beaches are filthy, full of rubbish, especially in Phuket. Kata Beach is awful. It's heartbreaking to see so much plastic waste."




    Air pollution in major cities and hazardous cracked pavements were also cited as issues.




    Overcrowding at major tourist hotspots, particularly Pattaya, Phuket, and Hua Hin, was a frequent complaint. An Australian tourist lamented, "Beaches that used to be serene and beautiful are now crammed with thousands of sun loungers. There's no space to relax peacefully anymore."




    Discontent with certain groups of tourists is also souring the overall atmosphere. A British tourist recounted: "My last trip to Pattaya was ruined by tourists of a certain nationality. They assaulted my partner on the plane, and everywhere we went, they were rude to Thai people."




    Another Australian added, "I love Thailand and have been coming here for 26 years, but the massive increase in tourists from India and Russia is making me reconsider my visits. Some areas in Pattaya now feel more like 'Little India' than Thailand."



    Adding to the unease are safety concerns following the recent earthquake and building collapse at Chatuchak market.



    "I'm scared to stay in high-rise buildings in Bangkok or anywhere in Thailand anymore, even though I live here," a foreign resident confessed.




    Interestingly, some Thai voices suggest that a dip in tourist numbers might present an opportunity.



    "We need quality tourists, not just quantity," one Thai commenter argued. Another stated, "Good, maybe this will give us time to rehabilitate the environment and improve infrastructure."




    In their final thoughts, many expressed enduring affection for Thailand but a growing concern over its diminishing value.




    "Thailand is still a beautiful place, and most Thai people are lovely, but with the higher prices, complicated systems, and declining quality, I'll have to look at other destinations, at least for the next few years," a long-term Canadian visitor concluded.




    Another comment warned, "Thailand is no longer the only game in town in this region. Tourists now have a plethora of options in Southeast Asia that are cheaper and offer fresher experiences. If Thailand doesn't buck its ideas up, it could permanently lose market share."


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    Furthermore, the reduction of the tourist visa duration from 60 to 30 days has irked long-stay visitors.
    From where?

    As for hotel prices, if people didn't pay, they wouldn't charge it.

    As for flights, all the airlines have been trying to make up their Covid losses and there aren't enough choices to generate competition.

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    I think it’s fair to say it’s not a covid thing anymore.

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    thailand is a victim of its own self imposed conundrum.

    it loves tourists, but hates foreigners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    it loves tourists, but hates foreigners.
    it loves tourist's CASH , but hates foreigners WHO HOLD UP THE MIRROR TO THE GREED.

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    Yep, Thailand is no longer cheap if you want a budget holiday. Cambodia. Laos , offer cheaper options as does Vietnam with more infrastructure than cambo or lao but they all have there own charm. I'm a notorious cheap Charlie but I do notice that Thailand ain't so cheap anymore. Shit it's even expensive to get there now post covid.
    Most people are Kunts.dont believe me? Next time you see a group of people. Shout out OI KUNT watch em all turn around.

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    Hasn’t this been the case for the last twenty years?

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    ^ depends on your perspective surely?.

    What is more prevalent is its now overtly touristy and has lost its mystique and whatever charm it had.

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    Vietnam is the new Thailand post Covid for the savvy backpackers and travellers.

    It's actually cheaper in the UK for most things than Thailand nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    cheaper in the UK for most things than Thailand nowadays
    Houses for 10k up im rural C Rai zero community charge
    My annual electric inc 3 fridges 2 aircon 2 puters TVs etc same as one seafood buffet for 2 Dorset last year

    A large meal with prawss in a riverside resto 4 pounds

    An aircom 1st calss night slleeper BKK C Mai 30 pounds London to Oban 10x that last year.
    Good private dental filling 900 baht 21 pounds !!
    Russia went from being 2nd strongest army in the world to being the 2nd strongest in Ukraine

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    Rather oddly, on the same day that it carried that story the Nation also had this one:

    Thailand's Tourist Fortunes Rise as Long-Haul Visitors Flock In

    Thailand'''s Tourist Fortunes Rise as Long-Haul Visitors Flock In

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    One of the challenges for the TAT must be the anticipated drop in Chinese tourist numbers, which is not so much a Thailand story as a China story. It's difficult to get a balanced picture, most of the posters on YT for example are keen to paint one side or the other of China's economy. Certainly it is easy to find YT posts about empty shopping malls, empty street food stalls, rows of shuttered shops in prime locations, factory workers trudging away from locked factory gates and young people complaining about the impossibility of finding work. However, you could probably present the UK or the US in the same way with similar images. They aren't balanced.
    More interesting are the continued demonstrations and arrests about property complaints across the country. It is a problem that isn't going away, one recent incident saw an official killed and people apparently not too unhappy about it. An estimated 70% of Chinese people's private wealth is in property and when that market collapsed it left a lot of people with nothing, certainly not enough to spend on holidays in Thailand. Those same broke citizens aren't about to kick start a consumer-led economic recovery either. So for all the bold statements, Xi is facing some serious challenges.
    On the subject of Xi's problems, one that doesn't directly impact Thailand tourism was the recent unfurling of pro-Democracy banners in Chengdu. The perpetrator was quickly detained and the story didn't get a lot of traction although RFA did report it.

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    Yep its all filler written by hacks that cut and paste, google cites

    'In 2024, Thailand saw a remarkable recovery in tourism, welcoming over 35 million international tourists. This figure represents a significant rebound from the COVID-19 pandemic lows.'

    Perhasp they hope for more quality folks "like Us!" rather than hat Yais daily wickdippers or foreign slappers undercutting local katoeys and hard working scammers, street walkers and touts.

    Luckily in rural villages one can reduce all ones attention to family , animals and wildlife who oft seem interchangeabubble!

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    "We need quality tourists, not just quantity," one Thai commenter argued
    totally ignoring the fact that these elusive quality tourists want a quality destination.

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    Worth mentioning that the record high was 39 million in 2019, so any "growth" since 2020 is simply clawing back losses.

    Flights are still too expensive and Thais are still stupid enough to think putting prices up when numbers are down is a good way to keep revenue up.

    The 17% year on year drop in Chinese tourists suggests otherwise.
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