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    Chinese-grown Shine Muscat grapes contaminated with dangerous chemicals

    Shine Muscat grapes imported from China have been found to be heavily laced with dangerous chemicals, including chlorpyrifos, the Thai Pesticides Alert Network (Thai-Pan) and the Foundation for Consumers announced today.


    The two consumer protection organisations recently conducted laboratory tests on 24 samples of the juicy and popular grapes purchased from retail outlets, vendors and wet markets. Nine samples were imported from China while the remaining 15 samples were imported from unknown sources.


    Prokchon U-sap of Thai-Pan said the tests show that 23 of the 24 samples were found to be excessively laced with dangerous chemicals, with one sample containing chlorpyrifos, which is banned in Thailand, and 22 others were contaminated by 14 chemical residues.


    She said that several of the dangerous chemicals found are not included in the list of dangerous chemicals in Thailand and, therefore, their safety effects have not been assessed, adding that many of the chemicals are systemic pesticides, which is absorbed into the grapes, making them appear fresh for a prolonged period.


    The chemicals found in the grapes include Bifenazate, Dinotefuran, Fluopyram, Boscalid, Fluopicolide, Pyrimethanil, Ametoctradin, Tetraconazole, Ethirimol, Metrafenone, Fludioxonil, Bupirimate, Isopyrazam, Oxathiapiprolin, Biphenyl and Cyazofamid.


    Prokchon said that systemic pesticide cannot be easily removed from the grapes by washing in water.


    She said that importers of and traders in Shine Muscat grapes should be more responsible for the safety of consumers, by conducting random tests on the fruit to determine whether the amount of chemicals exceeds safety levels, by removing potentially harmful grapes from their shelves, by clearly specifying the origin of the grapes and, if possible, banning the import of the grapes found to be heavily laced with dangerous chemicals.


    Shine Muscat grapes from China are cheaper than those imported from Japan or South Korea and, therefore, are popular among Thai consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Shine Muscat grapes from China are cheaper than those imported from Japan or South Korea and, therefore, are popular among Thai consumers.
    Expected in Makro soon, Muscat grapes that look very much like Chinese Muscat grapes, but these will be labelled as Japanese grapes and offered at a higher price.
    (It is my understanding that calling something 'Japanese' is descriptive only, not a claim to the country of origin and therefore not a false claim. Like Kiwi Fruit from China or, as they used to be known, Chinese gooseberries, from New Zealand.)

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    ^^ I doubt it's just grapes. I'd be suspicious of any chinkie fruit and veg. I avoid it where I can

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    The Grapes of Froth eh

    Stick to wine , even the Chinese Great Wall cannot imitate even Chateau box or the bidon of the Foreign Legion which was the cheapest Algerian or Maroccan they could palm off.19 crimes 595 a pop at my local bottle shop, if properly resealed can last for hours in a wine cooler.
    lest we forget "Trump said Ukraine started the war"

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    The chemicals found in the grapes include Bifenazate, Dinotefuran, Fluopyram, Boscalid, Fluopicolide, Pyrimethanil, Ametoctradin, Tetraconazole, Ethirimol, Metrafenone, Fludioxonil, Bupirimate, Isopyrazam, Oxathiapiprolin, Biphenyl and Cyazofamid.


    My freaking gawd....Cancer City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    19 crimes 595 a pop at my local bottle shop, if properly resealed can last for hours in a wine cooler.
    Not in my house. No wine can last for hours.

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    Even clothes off Temu and Shein have been found to be riddled with carcinogens and other poisons.

    Chinky bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Even clothes off Temu and Shein have been found to be riddled with carcinogens and other poisons.

    Chinky bastards.
    bugga there goes my posing pouch , thank for the head up, I hope none of your dress tainted?

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    Imported Shine Muscat grapes safe to eat if washed properly: Thai FDA


    The Thai Food and Drug Administration ( Thai FDA) says that Shine Muscat grapes, imported from China, are safe to eat, as long as they are thoroughly washed in plain water or in water containing baking soda or salt.


    This assurance came from Dr. Surachoke Tangwiwat, Thai FDA secretary-general, in response to a report from by Thai-Pan that random tests they conducted on 24 samples of the grapes, collected from vendors, supermarkets and wet markets, found 23 of the samples heavily contaminated with dangerous chemicals, which do not readily dissolve, even when the grapes are soaked in water.


    He said that the public should not be overly concerned about Thai-Pan’s findings, adding that the tests show that the 36 types of pesticide detected in the grapes are within safety limits.


    Before eating the grapes, he suggested that the fruit be soaked in a baking soda solution or plain water for 15 minutes and then rinsed under running water for 30 seconds.


    Dr. Surachoke also said the Thai FDA has stepped up its controls on imported fruit and vegetables, to ensure that the amount of chemical residue is within safety limits.


    Thai FDA officials will also join provincial public health officials in examining fruit and vegetables at packaging facilities, taking regular random samples for laboratory testing.

    Imported Shine Muscat grapes safe to eat if washed properly:




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    Yeah, sure ! None of the

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    36 types of pesticide detected in the grapes





    have entered the inside of the grapes
    Last edited by Salsa dancer; 27-10-2024 at 10:36 AM.

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    It’s crazy, isn’t it? Any respect for the Thai FDA flies right out the window.

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    They mixed up their announcement, they mean that you have to wash the inside of the grapes with baking soda.

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    Are these those large grapes that recently hit the market? My wife was buying them back in September. I didn't trust how good they looked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Shine Muscat grapes, imported from China, are safe to eat, as long as they are thoroughly washed in plain water or in water containing baking soda or salt.
    Hands up who doesn't wash the fuck out of Thai produce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Hands up who doesn't wash the fuck out of Thai produce?
    For centuries, Thai cuisine has used hot spices to disguise meats that are way past their sell by date even for pig swill.
    It might explain shopping habits and daily fresh buying in the age of the refrigerator.

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    You sound about 300 years old.

    Another interpretation is that Thais value fresh food more, and also value independent vendors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    many of the chemicals are systemic pesticides, which is absorbed into the grapes
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Shine Muscat grapes, imported from China, are safe to eat, as long as they are thoroughly washed in plain water or in water containing baking soda or salt.
    <br><br><br>Who do you choose to believe?<br type="_moz">

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    WTF happened there? TD having a bad hair day?

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    Used as a gourmet enema flushed of with a weasal coffee the happy ended of your dreams.

    Despite residing nr the infamous Golden Traingle annual smoke, regime, natural disasters smokers/tokers, Mozzies, drunk drivers I still feel sugar and an upset partner near the top of any whisk analysis.

    Get it up keep it up , keep drinking , enjoy your food and don't get too paranoid, I'd sooner have carefree decades of fun or longer in misery. I find avoiding people in dresses, shorts and uniforms of all sorts (other than cosplay of course!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    For centuries, Thai cuisine has used hot spices to disguise meats that are way past their sell by date even for pig swill.
    It might explain shopping habits and daily fresh buying in the age of the refrigerator.
    That's pretty much how curry was invented I hear. Long voyages didn't lend themselves well to the meat on the way to the next colony. In the Philippines I always wondered why they bbq everything to near charcoal.in the province I guess it's because of the unrefrigerated market and flies .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    For centuries, Thai cuisine has used hot spices to disguise meats that are way past their sell by date even for pig swill.
    It might explain shopping habits and daily fresh buying in the age of the refrigerator.
    Are you mistaking Thailand for India?

    Meat and poultry is generally killed and eaten the same day where I am. Vegetables and herbs are generally picked and eaten fresh, without cooking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLD View Post
    That's pretty much how curry was invented I hear. Long voyages didn't lend themselves well to the meat on the way to the next colony. In the Philippines I always wondered why they bbq everything to near charcoal.in the province I guess it's because of the unrefrigerated market and flies .
    It could be my excuse for not eating spicy food, or something that seemed sensible coming from a Thai?

    Alternatively, it might be an opinion that others don’t like, because It came from me.

    Your experience with PI logic is also relevant. ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Are you mistaking Thailand for India?

    Meat and poultry is generally killed and eaten the same day where I am. Vegetables and herbs are generally picked and eaten fresh, without cooking.

    No. I questioned why some Thai food offered at the roadside, sometimes tasted off. This explanation came from a Thai and it seemed logical. Not everyone in Thailand can have access to fresh meat and poultry!

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