Family of Luxembourgish woman killed in Thailand seek support and answers

**harrybarracuda** · 24-11-2023, 01:06 PM

The family of a young Luxembourgish woman who died in a fatal accident in Phuket earlier this month have reached out to RTL to share their experience following the tragedy.

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19-year-old Cey-làn was visiting her grandmother in Phuket with her parents in early November when she tragically lost her life in a scooter accident.
The young Luxembourger's aunt contacted RTL by phone to explain the circumstances leading to the fatal incident.
"My niece was riding a scooter with her boyfriend on the night of 4 November. She was sitting on the back of the scooter when the accident happened. Both of them died at the scene." Cey-làn's mother received a phone call at the hotel where they were staying that night to inform her of her daughter's death, as well as that of the 21-year-old American man accompanying her.
Although RTL has since received video footage of the accident, we have opted not to publicly share the images due to their distressing nature. In the footage, taken from a nearby CCTV camera, the two young people can be seen riding the scooter along the road. A car travelling at high speed in the same direction struck the scooter from behind, causing it to sharply veer off to the side. Both occupants had already succumbed to their injuries by the time the emergency services arrived at the scene.

Zara-ly Pizzuto, the young woman's aunt, said a complaint had been filed following the accident, but few details have emerged. The driver of the car suffered minor injuries but has otherwise returned to a normal life, although the woman has allegedly had her passport taken by authorities.
"It's been over a fortnight and we still haven't received any news," Pizzuto told RTL. She said her mother had engaged the services of a Thai lawyer to liaise with the authorities at the scene, but the case had not moved forward.
On 23 November, the family dispatched a letter to the Luxembourg Ministry of Foreign Affairs, pushing for further support. Pizzuto said they were already in contact with the Luxembourg consulate in Thailand, but required further assistance from the ministry.
"We are aware that such cases take a long time, but we are concerned the investigation will not be carried out properly," commented Pizzuto. "We therefore hope to achieve justice and receive support from the Luxembourgish government."

Upon inquiry, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed it usually provides support to families in such cases, and planned to make contact with the local authorities in Phuket. A spokesperson wrote: "We can facilitate certain administrative procedures, seek to obtain information from local authorities, or accompany families to a certain extent on the ground to solve the issues."
In countries where Luxembourg lacks diplomatic representation, there is the option to use the Belgian embassy, thanks to an international cooperation agreement dating back to 1965.
The spokesperson told RTL that the Bangkok embassy, the honorary consulate in Phuket and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs had been in regular contact with the young woman's family, as well as with Thai authorities.
Further details on this specific case could not be given for data protection reasons.

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**david44** · 24-11-2023, 06:23 PM

Very sad RIP

If a hiso police do nowt
If a poor local police do nowt
If in between doubt they will bother to go out in the heat over 2 of the thouands slaughtered on the rd

**PAG** · 24-11-2023, 06:28 PM

The Russian woman, Irina Postovalova, whilst not deleting her Facebook account, has removed all information from it. Her real estate company, Русское агентство недвижимости на острове Пхукет, Таиланд is also still active though again no updates from the 4th November. A very low profile if indeed she is still here in Thailand.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-11-2023, 06:40 PM

Probably pissed out of her gourd, too, and has most likely already got away with that.

**Seekingasylum** · 25-11-2023, 09:58 AM

The report states the vehicle driver has had her passport impounded by the BiB and given the incident occurred this month I think it unlikely, even for the Phuket police/court, the perp will have had it returned so soon to facilitate travel.
Sure if DUI is the cause then evidence will be required which as we all know can be lost or for some reason might not have been acquired at the relevant time …….….
Shitty people, shitty society, shitty country.
Given the dead were Thai and American I would hope justice is done but…….

**Pragmatic** · 25-11-2023, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the woman has allegedly had her passport taken by authorities.

I thought that the only people that can take your passport was the people that issued it?

**harrybarracuda** · 25-11-2023, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I thought that the only people that can take your passport was the people that issued it?

Did you? How sweet.

**Seekingasylum** · 25-11-2023, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I thought that the only people that can take your passport was the people that issued it?

In a civilised country with a functioning rule of law a passport can be impounded by an authority other than the issuing authority under the direction of a criminal court, usually as a condition of bail.

Thailand is not such a place and the police do what they want. Technically, you can decline to give the police your passport until it is a court imposed condition but that would mean you banged up until a hearing can be arranged. Who would want that if it’s inevitable anyway.

**Pragmatic** · 25-11-2023, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

In a civilised country with a functioning rule of law a passport can be impounded by an authority other than the issuing authority under the direction of a criminal court, usually as a condition of bail.

Thank you for that input SA. As for Hairy nothing can be said, it's all been said before.

**harrybarracuda** · 25-11-2023, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Thank you for that input SA. As for Hairy nothing can be said, it's all been said before.

Let me get this right. You actually think they care about this shit?

'His Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of His Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.'

**Pragmatic** · 25-11-2023, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Let me get this right. You actually think they care about this shit?

Hairy you got the wrong end of the stick. In SA's reply he understood perfectly what I was on about and replied with the correct answer. Try reading his reply.

**cyrille** · 25-11-2023, 05:21 PM

Harriet's doing her 'World weary, seen it all in Thailand' routine, despite being a noob.

It can be trying, but best to ignore her.

**harrybarracuda** · 25-11-2023, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Hairy you got the wrong end of the stick. In SA's reply he understood perfectly what I was on about and replied with the correct answer. Try reading his reply.

Mate you haven't travelled much have you.

You should check the law of the country you're in.

For example, it's not at all uncommon for companies to hold passports of foreign workers, nor is it illegal in the countries where it's common practice.

Sybille would know this from living in the sandpit, but is playing the dumb shit again.

**armstrong** · 25-11-2023, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Mate you haven't travelled much have you.

You should check the law of the country you're in.

For example, it's not at all uncommon for companies to hold passports of foreign workers, nor is it illegal in the countries where it's common practice.

Sybille would know this from living in the sandpit, but is playing the dumb shit again.

According to the (Thai) Personal Data Protection Act they should not be keeping your passport.

**harrybarracuda** · 25-11-2023, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by armstrong

According to the (Thai) Personal Data Protection Act they should not be keeping your passport.

They should not be keeping your passport DATA - without your "consent". Which here means "You gave us your passport details, so you obviously consented".

But since that was supposed to be "fully enforced" on the 1st June last year and has yet to be, I wouldn't worry about it.

They've probably already leaked your passport data all over the interwebs anyway.

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