Thread: Huawei and ZTE handed 5G network ban in Australia

Originally Posted by Cujo

Yes, let's see Australian companies operating in the Chinese telecoms market. Not to mention other infrastructure segments.

Do they have 5G telecoms equipment to sell, the ability to win business or the wealth to take the risk?

I didn't realise Oz had a world class telecoms company touting for business around the world. If so why are the considering buying telecom equipment from foreign companies?

Possibly the 2017 trade figures are fake eh?

Oz exports:

Electrical, electronic equipment

$3.08B

2017

Oz imports:

Electrical, electronic equipment

$23.31B

2017

https://tradingeconomics.com/austral...ts-by-category

There are plenty of countries that would welcome anybody's, including Australian, investment/loans, why don't the try it. Or lend countries monies at the rates and conditions China does. There does appear to be a market for it worldwide and Australia is allegedly a developed, wealthy country and has talented people.

Originally Posted by Norton

Only Chinese operators allowed in China. China wants to play the protectionist game then only appropriate their companies recieve equal treatment outside China. To do otherwise would be racist.

It appears the Russians and western countries rebuilt the Chinese systems in the 60's. I suspect western and Japanese were the suppliers originally of telecoms equipment, installation and servicing, historically. As in much of the world.

"Growth in telecommunications halted with the general economic collapse after the Great Leap Forward (1958–60) but revived in the 1960s after the telephone network was expanded and improved equipment was introduced, including imports of Western plants and equipment.

In the years immediately following 1949, telecommunications — by telegraph or telephone — mainly used wire; by the 1970s, however, radio telecommunications equipment were increasingly used and began to replace wire lines. Microwave and satellite transmissions were soon introduced and have now become common. (China launched its first television-broadcast satellite in 1986.) In 1956 the first automatic speed Teletype was installed on the Beijing-Lhasa line. By 1964 such machines had been installed in most of China's major cities "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleco...tions_in_China


If we rely on Wikipedia as being factual, Teletype machines, an ameristan invention and produced piece of telecoms kit, was the bees knees at one point. But as China has developed it's own now world class equipment, somehow it is considered a threat to civilisation, rather than an improvement as the Teletype machine was when first developed.

So who is practising racism now?



Australia has a trade balance with china thus;

Australian imports from China:

China

$49.97B

2017

Australian exports to China

China

$68.10B

2017

A surplus of $18+B

https://tradingeconomics.com/austral...rts-by-country

https://tradingeconomics.com/austral...rts-by-country

By buying Chinese telecoms equipment and services it might reduce the surplus a little, yes?


China I believe is regarded as a "developing country" by the WTO and as such it is able to utilise agreed forms of "protection".

You may wish to view the WTO agreement, voted on by all WTO members, "Special and differential treatment provisions", to gain a better understanding of China's legitimate concerns regarding exclusions from some markets based on it being China and nothing else.

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e..._e/d1who_e.htm

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...gal_provisions

Unless of course you suspect China does have backdoors etc. in it's telecom equipment, similar to that which other countries vendors have been proven to have.

The allegations quoted by the Australian government are "security issues". Are you suggesting that Australia has more issues with China than say UK or ameristan? Or as Australia, being a vassal of Ameristan or UK, it fears retributions from them, if they choose a possibly better, cheaper solution from a Chinese manufacturer?

As we have recently seen, ameristan has no qualms about publicly threatening other countries if they purchase items from other countries, where it has similar products available to sell.