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    Europeans are all about slapping the big companies with fines for data misuse, anti-competitive behaviour, and the right to be forgotten.
    Gulf states and China will ban the big companies outright unless they supply the keys necessary to decrypt all traffic in their countries.

    I seriously can't see them meeting the middle.


    Most countries will prolly go with the Spy vs Spy status quo.
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Europeans are all about slapping the big companies with fines for data misuse, anti-competitive behaviour, and the right to be forgotten.
    Gulf states and China will ban the big companies outright unless they supply the keys necessary to decrypt all traffic in their countries.
    "Big fines", who is being hurt? I suspect only western companies dependent on their "impressive share price performance".

    The Chinese company, it's the worlds leading supplier by revenue, it doesn't appear so.

    The Chinese citizen, getting more prosperous year on year, it doesn't appear so.

    The Chinese government, if one accepts the company is "state owned", it doesn't appear so.

    The "right to be forgotten", is that with or without modifying their equipment to meet any new agreed "rules"? Or carry on what your doing, but send us a copy?

    "unless they supply the keys necessary to". So no "keys" supplied to western governments by the equipment company or other "responsible providor" sources, eh?

    "Market research efforts have indicated that the Cellebrite UFED System is the only hand-held, cellular exploitation device worldwide that requires no PC or associated phone drivers. The system will quickly extract phonebook, pictures, videos, SMS messages, call histories, ESN/IMEI information, and deleted SMS/call histories off the SIM for rapid analysis.

    Cellebrite supports all major technologies (DMA, CDMA,GSM, IDEN) including, Smartphone operating systems and PDAs (Apple iPhone, Blackberry, Google Android, Microsoft Mobile, Palm and Symbian) for over 95% of all handset models worldwide. The Cellebrite UFED is also desired due to its extraction speed and intuitive user interface.

    Cellebrite is the only responsible provider and developer of the UFED Forensic System. Therefore, Cellebrite is the only responsible source to provide the UFED Touch Ultimate Logical and Physical Mobile Forensic Solution Kit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    I seriously can't see them meeting the middle.
    The UK appeared to accept the Chinese company as a supplier. Consulting groups between the company, UK industry and security experts including BT, GCHQ.

    "BT formed a research and development partnership with ZTE in 2011, and has also distributed modems manufactured by the Chinese firm.

    "ZTE is just one of many research partners with which BT is engaged," a spokeswoman for the British firm told the BBC.


    "Such projects focus on the future uses of networks and technologies and do not necessarily result in the commercial deployment of the research partner's kit in our network.


    She added that BT had "a robust testing regime in place" to ensure its network remained secure.


    Huawei is the world's biggest producer of telecoms equipment and is a major supplier of broadband and mobile network gear in Britain.


    The report was written by the Huawei Cyber Security Evaluation Centre (HCSEC), which was set up in 2010 in response to concerns that BT and others' use of the firm's equipment could pose a threat.


    The body is overseen by UK security officials, including ones from spy agency GCHQ.


    It said that it was disappointed that there had been a "lack of progress" in tackling previously identified shortcomings.


    Furthermore, it highlighted that a visit to Shenzhen in 2017 had revealed the company was failing to keep proper watch over the use of third-party components.


    "[It was] identified that not all components are managed through this process and, in particular, security critical third-party software used in a variety of products was not subject to sufficient control," it said."

    From MK's informative links:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44891913

    ""The UK telecommunications network already contains a significant amount of equipment supplied by Huawei, also a Chinese equipment manufacturer," he wrote.


    "Adding in new equipment and services from another Chinese supplier would render our existing mitigations ineffective."


    The NCSC's parent organisation, GCHQ, already carries out its own checks on Huawei's equipment."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43784990


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    These big companies are not strictly speaking 'state owned' but in the background the state has a stake and therefore a say.
    What is your issue here Ohoh? Why are you so in favour of huawei and ZTE?

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    Paranoia. As a phone Huawei blows the competition out of the water.

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    You should read the thread first, Mon.

    Might help make you look a little less stupid.

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    Yes dad. As a chick I'm allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander Shepphard View Post
    Yes dad. As a chick I'm allowed.
    'Chick'? Chook you mean.

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    Dad?

    I'll have you know me and AV both look younger than you!!!

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