Thread: Chinese official threatens 'decisive action' if Taiwan declares independence

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Since being a student in China years ago I've heard every sticky shade of hype about China, and what many fail to appreciate is the bombast they project externally with all their imperialistic schemes and transparent machinations; is that they are so very vulnerable to losing control within their own system and imploding. The state is a like fat man with little wobbly head, defecating down it's leg and vomiting over it's infinite chins as it's distended bulbous hulk flops and oozes out of it's trousers and strains at every seam. They can play toy soldiers all they want, but China would collapse very quickly in a war with it's biggest customer, and despite all the gobshittery it indulges in, it shows little sign of any kind of fitness programme - it desperately needs expertise from the west to save it from internal financial turmoil, as it's own burgeoning middle class is culturally conditioned to not spend, but to save - they are dependent on the rent they yield from foreign debt, and dependent on the meals on wheels from neighbouring states, and dependent on selling shit to "Taiwan"'s allies. The UK should never have handed over HK island, which was handed over by treaty, not leased in any way; China is a fat needy panda, not a fearsome bear; letting them shit in the Champa sea is a bad idea.

Nemo is correct in the above.

The Mainland Chinese are full of bombast and hyperbole. In this regard they have they have the same mentality as North Korea. And they have been doing it for a long time.

I lived in Taiwan for almost 3 years and Taiwanese are not like this at all. They are much more level-headed but do fear the Mainland. From what I have read about old China, Taiwanese are much like people in the Mainland would have been before the Communist Revolution. Lovely people....soft-hearted and well-educated. Bookshops in Taipei used to have sections where people could just sit and read the latest books, and they didn't mind that the top copy got dog-eared.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

The state is a like fat man with little wobbly head, defecating down it's leg and vomiting over it's infinite chins as it's distended bulbous hulk flops and oozes out of it's trousers and strains at every seam.

Although it may be correct, it does not diminish the importance of the world'd strongest economy. The history of the many turmoils and occupations by countries from Asia, Europe and America - and their own "cultural revolution", have not make a good background for a new start.

Recently I have read a book Jade by Pat Barr, showing quite unknown (to me) difficulties of the rural life of that enormous country some 150 years ago when the thousands of warlords ruled almost the country, each for his own. And the kind influence of the "falangs" ignorant of the Chinese culture and the horrible genocide-like rule by Japanese and Koreans. The "falangs" always claimed how they want to develop the primitive Chinese life.

As of the Taiwan/Formosa history, over centuries they mostly had been under the Qing dynasty rule. And the evacuation of Kuomintang army led by Chiang Kai Schek to Formosa after the WW2 under the "noble-minded" enormous support of USA is also not something what everybody would approve and like.


The island of Taiwan, formerly known as Formosa, was inhabited by aborigines before the 17th century, when Dutch and Spanish colonies opened the island to mass Han immigration. After a brief rule by the Kingdom of Tungning, the island was annexed by the Qing dynasty, the last dynasty of China. The Qing ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 after the Sino-Japanese War. While Taiwan was under Japanese rule, the Republic of China (ROC) was established on the mainland in 1912 after the fall of the Qing dynasty. Following the Japanese surrender to the Allies in 1945, the ROC took control of Taiwan. However, the resumption of the Chinese Civil War led to the ROC's loss of the mainland to the Communists, and the flight of the ROC government to Taiwan in 1949. Although the ROC continued to claim to be the legitimate government of China, its effective jurisdiction has, since the loss of Hainan in 1950, been limited to Taiwan and its surrounding islands, with the main island making up 99% of its de facto territory.


And isn't this a joke (of UN seriousness)?
As a founding member of the United Nations, the ROC continued to represent China at the United Nations until 1971, when the PRC assumed China's seat, causing the ROC to lose its UN membership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan

And if the wiki says:
Taiwan is the 22nd-largest economy in the world, and its high-tech industry plays a key role in the global economy.

In my brief business visits to Taiwan I had learned that many Taiwanese could not show me their business but they like to make the business just like a trader using their good connection with manufacturing cousins in mainland China and so their turnover (of Taiwan) is obviously added to their account (of Taiwan).

And before the mainland China business was recognized and officially accepted by the world the Taiwanese made clever tricks with import/export documentation to show the Country of Origin (CO) not as mainland China - often with help of corrupt bureaucracy of Thai officials.