Thread: Protesting workers block entrance and exit of an electronic factory

^ Nothing justifies killing. Not excusing anyone... murderers are murderers.. dead people are dead people....

rogue units you say!!??

I don't see the link between Japanese actions during WWII and the issue with this factory

Without insight from both sides (Japan company / thai workers), I can't assess the rightfulness of the workers'claims.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

Nothing justifies killing.

I see, so you think that the Holocaust and killing a rapist in self-defense are equally bad.

Don't be stupid. There are many things that justify killing. Self-defense and protecting loved ones are two that immediately spring to mind. Hmm, it's getting close to Christmas. By any chance have you recently had your brain replaced by a selection of Christmas-cracker mottoes?

Civilising missions can be justified as well.
In the name of all that is good - Christianity and the Western way.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Civilising missions can be justified as well.
In the name of all that is good - Christianity and the Western way.

I detect a hint of a lack of sincerity in your comment.

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

I don't see the link between Japanese actions during WWII and the issue with this factory

There isn't one. Dick got paranoid that somebody was about to say something nasty about his wife (nobody did, of course) and consequently popped a gasket. The rest is just karma

The Thais are clearly pulling the piss.

Turf 'em all out and hire some Burmese and Cambodians that appreciate it. Though I'm sure that they have to employ the Thais, hence why the Thai grunts are pulling the piss. If they sense they've an inch, without doubt they'll be indignantly demanding the whole mile.

The situation reminds me of the Sanyo factory fire back in ’96.

Thai mediation in Sanyo labor dispute - UPI Archives
Thai Workers Torch Buildings Over Bonus Dispute with Sanyo - WSJ
Japanese Firms in Thailand Fear Escalating Labor Disputes - WSJ

FFS, how to ensure that the end of year bonuses aren't reduced?

Burn the foking factory down.

Originally Posted by Luigi

FFS, how to ensure that the end of year bonuses aren't reduced?

Burn the foking factory down.

...or wait for the annual basin floods.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

I don't see the link between Japanese actions during WWII and the issue with this factory

There isn't one. Dick got paranoid that somebody was about to say something nasty about his wife (nobody did, of course) and consequently popped a gasket. The rest is just karma

Thanks , I was lost for a while in this thread thinking "seriously, people are resenting nowadays Japaneses (not governments,but japanese people "in general"or worst each japanese guy they may cross path with) for what their parents have done 60 years ago ...? Did I stumble in a warpzone ?"


I smell something, is bromance in the air? Here a video that might inspire you to meet in real life, who knows?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

There isn't one. Dick got paranoid that somebody was about to say something nasty about his wife (nobody did, of course) and consequently popped a gasket. The rest is just karma

Yes, well the last time I merely mentioned the Japanese in a positive light (they saved the lives of British navy in Surabaya, the Northeast of Java Sea in 1942.
I received a very nasty comment directed at my wife. I won't name the person.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

What absolutely enrages me about your post is the fact that you attempt to pass off some of the greatest crimes in history as if they were the actions of a bunch of decent chaps who got carried away.

^ I'm not the enraged one lol... I like a good discussion... just having a difference of opinion. I concede some of your points. I used to be squarely on your side of the fence.

Yes, the Germans and Japanese committed the most atrocious acts during WW2 war, incomparable to the Western allies, no argument from me there (excluding the use of the atomic bomb)

Yes, we were all conditioned in school to excuse America for dropping the bomb as it saved an invasion force which would surely cause millions of Allied deaths yada yada
That's been debuted, even the Americans admit it wasn't really necessary or justified to drop the bomb in the middle of a civilian city. The Japanese were on the verge of defeat, but the Americans just wanted an excuse to use their new toy.

However, excluding WW2 (during world history), horrific acts have been committed the world over. No one nation or group is more savage than any another. That was my 1st point.

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

Thanks , I was lost for a while in this thread thinking "seriously, people are resenting nowadays Japaneses (not governments,but japanese people "in general"or worst each japanese guy they may cross path with) for what their parents have done 60 years ago ...? Did I stumble in a warpzone ?" I smell something, is bromance in the air? Here a video that might inspire you to meet in real life, who knows?

^ Farang summed up my 2nd point.. It's not fair to hold the new generation responsible for acts done by a dead generation.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

It's not fair to hold the new generation responsible for acts done by a dead generation.

Not even you or your wife?

Admit it, you've been toying with the idea of ripping BOb's heart out and eating it!

555 no mate... all good bro.. I'm a peaceful guy...

He's entitled to his opinion, I'm entitled to mine.
I understand and sympathize with anti-Jap views... I used to think exactly the same way...I'm not making excuses for them, but the popular American propagandist view, is skewed, inaccurate and unfair.

He can call me anything he wants (as long as he's a gentleman and confines his abuse to me only, which he has..so well done, thanks)... I can take it.. I'm tougher than I look lol.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

Yes, well the last time I merely mentioned the Japanese in a positive light (they saved the lives of British navy in Surabaya, the Northeast of Java Sea in 1942.
I received a very nasty comment directed at my wife. I won't name the person.

Why not? Why would you protect a person who insulted someone you love? What kind of man are you?

Originally Posted by stroller

Admit it, you've been toying with the idea of ripping BOb's heart out and eating it!

And I'd have a lot more respect for him if he tried.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by taxexile

found them to be intelligent, inquisitive, punctual, open minded and fun loving

Indeed. And here they are displaying all those characteristics...

wartime does strange things to people.

name me a country that has not ill treated captured combatants or killed civilians during war.

there are times when i think the gent and tax are one and the same person, both arrogant.. and up themselves.

now tax doing the wrong thing in war time you have to make allowances for all concerned,,,, however the japs display pure sadism, nothing to do with a loose cannon going over the top. they are a sadistic race , historically and still are.

a point in case would be to look at there so called audience participation fun tv,,, all based on sadism and the tv ratings are through the roof..

now to you young dick ,,,, read the rape of nanking , just one city they reduced to ???... that is, was, there norm all over the rest of there invasions. i would be very interested to hear your wifes take on the same book. having nailed my colours to the mast, now and before.... your posts of your jap family were a pleasure, and had me softening my stance. you do make them come across as lovely people,, sure there all sorts there as else where... but there is the underlying sadism, and i'm not talking cruelty here which seems to be the norm. watch your back dicky.

their view of others was much the same as that held by radical islamists today, they are filthy, inferior, unworthy, fitvonly to de despised and cruelly treated.

times have moved on now, the japanese are not as isolated as they were and their culture has, for the most part rid itself of those extreme values.

well just lets hope we never have to find out if they've moved on. had they moved on they wouldn't look down on the rest of the world.

the only similarity between the mussies and japs is thier sadism... both driven from different cultures and ideologies.... definitely not the same.

^ 555 nice post mate...

I don't deny the atrocious way they treated the Chinese (hence their hatred for each other)...

I had a Chinese GF so know both sides... I'm not excusing them at all... as many things happen in war are inexcusable (as I believe was dropping the bomb).. contentious issue I know...

I respect your view and reasonable comments, but I never felt as at peace and safe as I do/did in Japan... more fool me for trusting my instinct, we shall see in the future... but I have only experienced positive things about Japan/Japanese people, I'm a pretty sensitive guy and never picked up on any sadism... although I know it exists in certain pockets of every society.

Oh, I will admit (even my wife admits this) the Japs are weird (or at least, have the creative ability to be weird)
I'm weird as fuck, so I fit right in.. yeee haaa!

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

I don't see the link between Japanese actions during WWII and the issue with this factory

Without insight from both sides (Japan company / thai workers), I can't assess the rightfulness of the workers'claims.

fuck off we're all enjoying a rant.

Japs have good porn though, so they are all definitely fucked in the head as a culture

Originally Posted by lob

fuck off we're all enjoying a rant.

Yeah, it's been a good debate... I lub a good debate...*masturbate 55

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Japs have good porn though, so they are all definitely fucked in the head as a culture

Sounds completely fair to me... Case closed...


Pssst.... what porn sites?

again to address you young dick. why do you think the japs are such quiet layed back law abiding citizens. hears my take as you think there are parallels with the usa/europe.... some one one asked me why yanks are so polite. answer, cos they all got guns, everyone goes out of there way to be polite, now i dont subscribe to that but do see the analogy. now to get back to japanese sadism. i do believe it to be the norm simply because they enjoy sadism as entertainment. thats not to say that a high percentage of japs would not come across ,to europeans, as normal...

dont confuse the people you meet in life with the culture they come from. they may well be the opposite to there culture. isis being what they are is not what muslims are. isis is/are the dregs of there culture the same as the dregs from every other culture.. the jap issue is not the same, their culture is sadism..

and dick they should have nuked tokyo and that so called god, advocating
no surrender from a deep bunker. hate isnt what i feel its depper. sadly.

i dont like bullies and sadistic bullies should be put down.

have a good weekend dick.