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    Cyanide-laced coffee murder in Jakarta

    I didn't kill Mirna: Jessica



    Jessica Kumala denied any involvement in the death of her friend Wayan Mirna Salihin, 27, who died after drinking cyanide-laced coffee in a Jakarta restaurant earlier this month and was calling for a better laboratory investigation, her lawyer said on Tuesday.

    Jakarta Police questioned Jessica on Tuesday as part of the investigation into Mirna's death as she was the one who ordered the drinks for Mirna and another friend, Hani, in a restaurant in the upscale Grand Indonesia Mall in Central Jakarta on Jan. 6.

    Jessica's lawyer Yudi Wibowo said his client, who is also his niece, was stressed by the media coverage that had focused on her.

    "But she is not afraid. She is tough because she has done nothing wrong in relation to the case," he said.

    Police had questioned Jessica and searched her house to search for evidence relating to the case last week.

    Tuesday's questioning also involved a forensic psychiatric evaluation of Jessica.

    Yudi believed that Mirna did not die from cyanide poisoning even though police have confirmed they found cyanide in Mirna's stomach contents and in the sample of the coffee she had drunk. He questioned Mirna's autopsy process and urged that an autopsy be conducted in another reputable hospital.

    Police investigators conducted an autopsy on Mirna's body in Kramat Jati Police Hospital on Jan. 10.

    Yudi claimed that Hani had also taken a sip of Mirna's coffee and was unharmed.

    "That means Mirna did not die because of the coffee. Two people drank the same coffee but Hani is alive and well," he said, adding that he did not know why Jessica did not also try the coffee.

    The newly wed Mirna suffered convulsions after drinking the coffee. She died a few hours later in Abdi Waluyo Hospital in Central Jakarta.

    Best friends

    Yudi explained that Mirna and Jessica were best friends. They both went to Billy Blue College of Design and then continued their studies in Swinburne University of Technology, both in Australia.

    Jessica worked as a graphic designer in Australia and she came back to Indonesia in December to find a job.

    As college mates, Jessica then invited Mirna and Hani to meet up in the restaurant.

    She arrived at the cafe an hour earlier and ordered the drinks for her friends as her treat.

    "If Jessica waited to order until Mirna came, Mirna would have paid for the coffee. It had happened a couple of times," Yudi said.

    Yudi denied rumors that the case was related to a love rivalry between Jessica and Mirna.

    "There is nothing like that. Jessica has a boyfriend overseas," he said.

    The police have not yet named a suspect in the case claiming that they are still waiting for the final results from the National Police's forensic laboratory.

    "Jessica is not a potential suspect yet," Police general crimes directorate head Sr. Comr. Khrisna Murti said on Tuesday. (rin)

    - See more at: I didn't kill Mirna: Jessica | The Jakarta Post

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    Greater Jakarta: Friend’s pants dumped after Mirna’s death

    Investigators from the Jakarta Police could not find the pants that Jessica, one of the key witnesses in the death of Wayan Mirna Salihin, wore at the Olivier restaurant, Central Jakarta, when they raided her house recently, according to Jakarta Police general crime detective chief Sr. Comr. Krishna Murti.

    Krishna said that when investigators asked Jessica about the pants she wore when visiting Olivier with Mirna and another friend, Hani, she said her maid had dumped them in a trash bin near the house.

    “We searched for the pants in the bin but could not find them,” he said. “She said her maid had dumped the trousers because they had been torn when she helped rush Mirna to the hospital [prior to Mirna’s death].”

    Krishna refused to comment when asked whether investigators were trying to find cyanide traces on the pants.

    “But it’s okay [if we cannot find the pants]. We can still search for other evidence,” he said.

    Jessica’s lawyer, Yudi Wibowo Sukitno, previously said that the police had confiscated a laptop, a credit card and several items from Jessica’s house after the raid. “They checked if there was any record of a cyanide purchase,” he said as quoted by wartakotalive.com. - See more at:

    Greater Jakarta: Friend?s pants dumped after Mirna?s death | The Jakarta Post

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    where do you get cyanide from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
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    Under the Poison Coffee (Kopi Beracun) category, they have appox 90 different articles/videos.

    I will not be posting all of those articles here, but certainly an interesting case and I will try to find the a few worth posting.

    This is the first article. http://wartakota.tribunnews.com/2016...ikmati-es-kopi

    It says the victim, a 28 socialite visited a Vietnamese coffee shop in Grand Indonesia Mall on Jan 8th (possibly, the biggest, and most expensive mall in Indonesia) with a few friends. After drinking an iced coffee she had a seizure and was rushed to the mall's clinic and then hospital, where she died.
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    It is very difficult, almost impossible to get cyanide. They'd be a lot more dead husbands and wife's otherwise

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    Polonium 210 is so much more efficient...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Mann
    Polonium 210 is so much more efficient...
    Indeed so.

    But rather tricky to obtain if one does not have KGB backers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94 View Post
    It is very difficult, almost impossible to get cyanide. They'd be a lot more dead husbands and wife's otherwise
    NZ$45, about 1000baht for a 500ml tube of cyanide, or 25 for 250ml, commonly used by trappers and NZ farmers for possum control, in some areas also for wallaby control. Also Cyanide is available as a pellet (Feratox®)

    There are ongoing trials for the use of cyanide in feral pig control in NZ and Australia

    Must hold a Controlled Substance License applications (CSL), since 2004:
    You must be over 17 years old, be adequately trained to handle that substance (an approved handler), require the substance for work, complete a fit and proper person assessment

    Never heard of a dead husband or wife from cyanide in NZ



    Philippines -World Wildlife Fund

    Although cyanide fishing is illegal in the Philippines, cyanide is allegedly brought in surreptitiously on the private planes that whisk away boxes of live fish each morning.

    In Hong Kong, Frazer McGilvray of the IMA told me “the word on the water is that cyanide is now being used more in the Coron area. You can buy it over the counter there.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94 View Post
    It is very difficult, almost impossible to get cyanide. They'd be a lot more dead husbands and wife's otherwise
    A lot of gold mines use it in the extraction process, wouldn't be to hard to get I reckon

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    quite a few mine processes use it

    but to get it , some one else will have had to know and they will tell

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    Chuck Norris brushes his teeth with Cyanide

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    Does the suspect live on a cassava farm ?

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    Happened in Thailand 6 months ago, but the idiot poisoned the wrong colleague by mistake.

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    Does it work on soi dogs?

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    ^ Only as a date rape method, the felchers say...Those dogs are tough...

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    Uncooked bamboo shoots contain enough cyanide to kill someone. Not that I think this was how it was obtained. Just saying...

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    Gotta watch out for anyone stirring my coffee with a bamboo......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Uncooked bamboo shoots contain enough cyanide to kill someone. Not that I think this was how it was obtained. Just saying...
    In what quantity?

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    ^ Ask the pandas...Hard as fook, they are...

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    ^^ Not sure and depends on variety but if eaten raw they can produce cyanide in the gut. That is why they have to be boiled for 30 minutes or so before eaten.

    However, report says the victim complained about the taste of the coffee before collapsing. Did the other girl who drank from the same cup also complain or was something added later...a case for Ms Marple...

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    Mirna suspect to be named soon: Police

    The police have collected sufficient evidence to name a suspect in the death of Wayan Mirna Salihin, 27, who died after drinking cyanide-laced coffee on Jan. 6.

    The police will hold a case expose before prosecutors on Tuesday where investigators will present evidence and information from three experts involved in the investigation, Jakarta Police's general crimes chief Krishna Murti said on Monday.

    The experts are a forensic expert, a forensic psychiatrist and a criminal expert.

    Investigators had collected four items of evidence out of five required to name a suspect in a case according to the Criminal Code, he said.

    "We have the indication, evidence and required documents. We can ignore the suspect's testimony in this case according to the Criminal Code," he told journalists at the Jakarta Police headquarters, while declining to provide details on the suspected poisoner.

    Krishna admitted that police had required extra time and care in determining a suspect to avoid any error in the criminal process.

    "So if any party files for a pretrial motion, we will be ready to handle it," he said.

    Legal and juridical obstacles also hampered investigators in revealing a suspect. For example, police had only received verbal information about the forensic results of the cyanide-laced coffee, but not the formal documents from the National Police's forensic laboratory.

    Results from psychiatric evaluations of Jessica Kumala Wongso, Mirna's friend and a witness, had also needed time to be put into the case dossier, Krishna said.

    Police summoned Hani, Mirna's other friend who was with Mirna at the time of her death, as a witness on Monday.

    Hani had joined newlywed Mirna and Jessica in a cafe in Grand Indonesia Mall in Central Jakarta and witnessed Mirna's having seizures and vomiting hours before Mirna died in hospital.

    Investigators questioned Hani twice on Monday to get clearer information as Krishna said Hani had panicked when Mirna died leading her to forget some details of the incident.

    Hani made no comment to journalists after her second questioning of the day.

    Jakarta Police have sought the help of the Australian Federal Police (AFP) in a bid to unveil the truth behind Mirna's suspicious death. The AFP was expected to provide information regarding the relationship between Mirna and her friends, especially Jessica and Hani, as they all studied together in Australia.

    Police took Jessica's servant, identified only as SR, into police protection as a key witness on Friday.

    SR is believed to have disposed of Jessica's ripped pants after Mirna's death at Jessica's request. Police had searched for the pants but to no avail.

    Jessica's lawyer, and uncle, Yudi Wibowo has denied that his niece had any involvement in Mirna's death claiming that they were best friends while studying in Australia. (rin)

    - See more at: Mirna suspect to be named soon: Police | The Jakarta Post

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    Police Take Jessica’s Maid Into Protective Custody, Cite ‘Significant Testimony’

    Police Take Jessica’s Maid Into Protective Custody, Cite ‘Significant Testimony’ in Mirna’s Murder

    Jakarta. Police have taken into protective custody a maid working for Jessica Kumala Wongso, the woman increasingly at the center of the high-profile poisoning of her friend Wayan Mirna Salihin.

    The maid, identified only by the initials S.R., was taken into custody late on Thursday, according to Sr. Comr. Krishna Murti, the Jakarta Police’s director of general crimes.

    “We took the maid into custody because her testimony is significant,” he said on Friday.

    “Her parents had come to the police to ask that she be taken under our protection,” he added, but did not elaborate on what threats, if any, S.R. faced.

    The development is the latest indication yet that police are focusing their investigation into the Jan. 6 death of Mirna, 27, on her friend Jessica, also 27.

    Mirna suffered convulsions shortly after taking a sip of iced coffee that Jessica had ordered for her at the Olivier café at the Grand Indonesia mall in Central Jakarta on the afternoon of Jan. 6. She was taken to the mall’s clinic and later to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead.

    An autopsy found traces of cyanide in her stomach, while tests on the coffee also revealed a large concentration of the toxic substance.

    While police are still formally treating Jessica as a witness in the case, their investigation has of late appeared to focus on her relationship with the victim. Earlier this week, the police announced that they had sought help from the Australian Federal Police in following a lead out of that country. Jessica and Mirna studied at the same university in Australia, and Krishna said the information being sought “has direct links with what was behind the victim’s death.”

    Another lead police are following up on is the revelation that Jessica ordered her maid to dispose of the jeans that she had been wearing at the café on the day Mirna died. Police have searched Jessica’s house and a nearby dumpsite for the jeans, but come up empty-handed.

    Krishna indicated that the police’s decision to take the maid into protective custody was linked to that part of the investigation.

    “It doesn’t matter whether or not we find the jeans. We’ve got plenty of other evidence,” he said, but stopped short of saying whether the evidence was intended for naming Jessica a suspect.

    He added, though, that police would discuss the case with prosecutors next Tuesday, indicating that they had already determined a suspect in the murder.

    Police Take Jessica?s Maid Into Protective Custody, Cite ?Significant Testimony? in Mirna?s Murder | Jakarta Globe

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    You cannot try somebody for murder over a missing pair of jeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    You cannot try somebody for murder over a missing pair of jeans.
    Oh yes they could. This is Indonesia, normal rules of evidence don't apply.

    Anyway, the back and forth and statements from the police show that they believe she is the murderer and so they are collecting evidence to fit their conclusion. Once they have enough evidence they will announce she is a suspect and arrest her and then they have a further 28 days the suspect can be in custody while they complete the investigation and send the files to the prosecutor.

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    essica accused of committing premeditated murder



    Jessica Kumala Wongso has been accused of the premeditated murder of her friend, Wayan Mirna Salihin. Mirna died shortly after drinking an iced-coffee at Olivier Café in Central Jakarta on Jan. 6. Jessica now faces the possibility of the death penalty.

    Jessica was arrested at Neo Hotel in North Jakarta at 7:45 a.m. on Saturday after been named by the police a suspect in Mirna’s murder. Jessica has also been banned from traveling overseas by the immigration office.

    The Jakarta Police general crimes division head Sr. Corm. Krishna Murti said the decision to arrest Jessica had been taken on Friday evening after police investigators conducted an internal case review to ensure that they had adequate evidence.

    Police officers came to Jessica’s house on Friday night but found her house empty. Jessica was arrested the following morning. "We arrested her respectfully. There was no resistance from her. She was brought to the police station accompanied by her parents," Krishna said.

    The police are currently interrogating Jessica and they have 24 hours to make a decision whether or not to detain her. "She will now be interrogated as a suspect," Krishna added.

    Krishna said that when Jessica was earlier questioned as a witness, she did not give consistent information to the investigators and the information she gave was not in line with the facts that had already been collected by the police.

    She was charged under Article 340 of the Criminal Code on premeditated murder.

    Krishna called on Jessica to immediately appoint defense lawyers. "If she doesn't have a lawyer, the country will provide her with one. If she has a lawyer, we're waiting for her lawyer so that the interrogation can start," Krishna said.

    Krishna added that the police had collected four from a minimum of two pieces of evidence required to name Jessica a suspect. "We have information from about 20 witnesses and six experts," Krishna added.

    Based on a case reconstruction, it is thought that Mirna and Jessica were at a café together. Jessica came first and ordered a cocktail and an iced-coffee. Some minutes later, Mirna came to the café. Mirna drank the coffee and shortly thereafter suffered convulsions and began to foam at the mouth. She died on the way to the hospital. (bbn)

    - See more at: Jessica accused of committing premeditated murder | The Jakarta Post

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