Thread: Ex-British soldier sentenced to 50 years in a Thai prison for drug charges

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by taxexile

I fail to see what is so bizarre about the wish to reduce the number of chavs, scrotes, freeloaders, boils, pimples, lawbreakers and fools from the general population of any society.

What about useless, unproductive old farts sucking on the state's tit and generally being tedious, bitter nuisances?

go take a powder Einstein.

Well the 'positive' thing if you believe the sentence is harsh is that, let's face it, he could be out tomorrow.

Tax, I'm well aware the average Yorkshire tyke born into the world under a bad sign will doubtless remain totally incorrigible and immune to any attempt at reformation but we remaining Britons are not so entrenched and in many cases may well repent our foolishness in time and achieve redemption given the opportunity.

As a good Christian reared chap you should know that everyone deserves a chance but this absurd punishment owes more to medieval barbarity, or what may pass for law in, say, Texas, than to any sensible penal sanction, and is simply too stupid for words and excludes the possibility of any rehabilitation.

Chap's a white man, for goodness sakes. Have you taken leave of your senses?

I deserve redding for this, there you go tax

this absurd punishment owes more to medieval barbarity

That's exactly what's being praised and admired.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

just the poor farang wrong place wrong time, did a stupid thing.

I do hope you're being facetious . . . 'poor' farang? 'Wrong place, wrong time'? 'Did a stupid thing'?

If you're serious then you are seriously fucked up to call a drug dealer a 'poor' farang and exclaim that this poor guy was the wrong place at the wrong time

We used to call them sweeties. Harmless little buzz on a Saturday night.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Chap's a white man, for goodness sakes. Have you taken leave of your senses?

Sometimes your parodies lose any semblance of reality.

Originally Posted by stroller

this absurd punishment owes more to medieval barbarity

That's exactly what's being praised and admired.

Of course it is, has it taken you 3 pages of postings to realise that?

And it is being praised purely because it couldnt have happened to a more deserving chap. A lowlife 2 bit peddler of pills, an idiot and a chancer.

He could have made a decent living in the UK peddling pills and weed with little to fear from the law, and he could have claimed benefits as well. But no, he had to do it in Thailand, the land of corrupt police, elastic laws and smelly gaols.

He walked, or should I say swaggered, right into it the silly tool.

Originally Posted by patsycat

We used to call them sweeties. Harmless little buzz on a Saturday night.

not quite that harmless, but less than the cigarettes and alcohol you took ate the same time.

hardly worth 50 years for 200 pills, but then sealing some suntan lotion from boots is hardly worth 3 years... welcome to medieval thai justice

50 fukkin years....madness (no, not Baggy Trousers).

As I posted, something amiss here, class 2 drug, not a massive amount and from what I read in the Thai drug act, carries 3 to 10 years, not 50 years.
Street dealers don't get life, so he had to be charged with something more serious, not read what the charges where.
Plus seems from other reports, true or not, there is a Cambodian connection, very light on facts here.

Welcome to Pattaya, James. It really is a black hole sucking integrity, decency and basic understanding into its maw leaving nothing but a semblance of humanity and its vices. The worst place in the worst country I have ever lived. The authorities are nothing more than saprophytes feeding off the carcass.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Welcome to Pattaya, James. It really is a black hole sucking integrity, decency and basic understanding into its maw leaving nothing but a semblance of humanity and its vices. The worst place in the worst country I have ever lived. The authorities are nothing more than saprophytes feeding off the carcass.

FFS, they don't disappear farangs, they don't give life sentences for illegal parking, judges don't get told what to sentience people to, by some PC plod.
There are appeals courts, same as in the west and you think some BIB can tell a high court judge what to do over a few 100 pills.
You need help.

judges don't get told what to sentience people to, by some PC plod.you think some BIB can tell a high court judge what to do over a few 100 pills.

judges, like everyone else in this awful country are advised on what actions to take, when to take them and who to take them against by their puppetmasters and are well rewarded for their loyalty.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Welcome to Pattaya, James. It really is a black hole sucking integrity, decency and basic understanding into its maw leaving nothing but a semblance of humanity and its vices. The worst place in the worst country I have ever lived. The authorities are nothing more than saprophytes feeding off the carcass.

FFS, they don't disappear farangs, they don't give life sentences for illegal parking, judges don't get told what to sentience people to, by some PC plod.
There are appeals courts, same as in the west and you think some BIB can tell a high court judge what to do over a few 100 pills.
You need help.

Err, do you actually know anything about this country other than how it is in your ghastly backwater up there in the boonies?

Did you go to school?

Originally Posted by jamescollister

As I posted, something amiss here, class 2 drug, not a massive amount and from what I read in the Thai drug act, carries 3 to 10 years, not 50 years.

Ecstacy is a category 1 substance. Up to life for import, export, or production. Death for selling. I suggest you resume your legal studies. Helpful hint, read ALL the laws dealing with drugs. Looks to me like you're misreading the Psychotropic Drugs act which does not apply in this case anyway. You should be looking at the Narcotics Act.

when he does get released after a few appeals
him and his dad will go home skint.

this isn't the first time a crazy sentence has been dished out to the
unfortunates caught out.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Up to life for import, export, or production. Death for selling.

I am sure it's the other way around.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Up to life for import, export, or production. Death for selling.

I am sure it's the other way around.

No, the death sentence is for "disposal". Selling, exchanging, or giving away.


First page of Narcotics Act pasted below, definitions mainly. A link to the rest is at the bottom of this post.

NARCOTICS ACT
B.E. 2522 (1979)*



BHUMIBOL ADULYADEJ, REX.,
Given on the 22nd day of April B.E. 2522;
Being the 57th year of the Present Reign.

His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej is graciously pleased to proclaim that :

Whereas it is expedient to revise the law on narcotics :

Be it, therefore, enacted by the King, by and with the advice and consent of the National Legislative Assembly acting as the National Assembly as follows : (1)

Section 1 This Act is called the "Narcotics Act B.E. 2522".

Section 2 This Act shall come into force as from the day following the date of its publication in the Government Gazette.(2)

(3)Section 3 The following shall be repealed

(1) Narcotics Act, B.E. 2465.
(2) Narcotics Act (No. 2), B.E. 2479 ;
(3) Narcotics Act (No. 3), B.E. 2502 ;
(4) Narcotics Act (No. 4), B.E. 2504 ;
(5) Narcotics Act (No. 5), B.E. 2518 ;
(6) Marijuana Act, B.E. 2486 ;
(7) Kratom** Plant Act, B.E. 2486.

Section 4 In this Act :

(4)"narcotics" means any form of chemicals or substances which, upon being consumed whether by taking orally, inhaling, smoking, injecting or by whatever means, causes physiological or mental effect in a significant manner such as need of continual increase of dosage, having withdrawal symptoms when deprived of the narcotics, strong physical and mental need of dosage and the health in general being deteriorated, and also includes plant or parts of plants which are or give product as narcotics or may be used to produce narcotics and chemicals used for the production of such narcotics as notified by the Minister in the Government Gazette(5), but excludes certain formula of household medicine under the law on drugs which contain narcotic ingredients;

"produce" means cultivate, plant, manufacture, mix, prepare, denature, transform,synthesize by scientific means and includes repackaging or combine-packaging ;

"dispose" means sell, distribute, give away indiscriminately, exchange or give;

"import" means bring or order into the Kingdom;

"export" means carry or send out of the Kingdom; (6)

(7)"narcotic addiction" means habitually consuming narcotics and being in the state of narcotic dependence whereby such state is capable of being identified on a technical basis; (8)"dose" means tablet, sachet, bottle or such other doses which is made as usual for consuming one time. (9)"treatment" means the treatment of a narcotic addict which also includes a rehabilitation and follow-up thereafter; (10)"medical establishment" means hospital clinic convalescing home or such other places as the Minister notified in the Ministering Gazette to be the place for the treatment of narcotic addicts; (11)"pharmacist" means a pharmaceutical practitioner as pharmaceutical law.

"medicinal formula" means a formula of preparation regardless of form or description which contains narcotics, and includes narcotics in the form of finished pharmaceutical products ready for human or animal use : (12)"information" includes an act to be displaced by alphabet, picture, film, light, sound, symbol or any act which communicates matters to the understanding of many people. (13)"advertisement" includes any act in any method which people can see or know the information for commercial purpose unless the technical document or textbook.

"licensee" means a holder of a license under this Act;

"licensing authority" means the Secretary-General of the Food and Drug Board or person entrusted by the Secretary-General of the Food and Drug Board ;

"Committee" means the Narcotics Control Committee under this Act ;

"competent official" means a person appointed by the Minister for the execution of this Act ;

"Secretary-General" means the Secretary-General of the Food and Drug Board; "Minister" means the Minister having charge and control of the execution of this Act.

Section 5 This Act shall not apply to the Office of the Food and Drug Board, Ministry of Public Health but the Office of the Food and Drug Board shall submit semi-annual report on the receipt, distribution, storage and other operational procedures pertaining to the control of narcotics to the Committee for information, and the Committee shall submit such reports together with its opinions to the Minister for further issue of orders.

Section 6 The Minister of Public Health shall have charge and control of the execution of this Act and the power to appoint competent officials, issue Ministerial Regulations prescribing fees not exceeding the rates provided in the schedules hereto attached, granting exemption from fees, and prescribing other activities, and to issue Notifications for the execution of this Act.

Such Ministerial Regulations and Notifications shall come into force upon their publication in the Government Gazette.


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