Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Originally Posted by blue

Because they were, to use there own words 'legless drunk'?

So everything they say is true?

Asians going for a middle of the night swim for joy ? bullshit - have you ever seen that ?
more like to get cleaned up after the murder

Just your opinion.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by blue

Because they were, to use there own words 'legless drunk'?

So everything they say is true?

Asians going for a middle of the night swim for joy ? bullshit - have you ever seen that ?
more like to get cleaned up after the murder

Just your opinion.

The way I see it , any decent QC in Crown court in Blighty and the kids would have walked .

Plod in the UK would have saved the incriminating DNA, that the Burmese left at the crime scene properly .
Then even a rookie prosecution lawyer would have nailed then.

Anyone bothered to find out if the pair could actually swim ?

Originally Posted by blue

Plod in the UK would have saved the incriminating DNA, that the Burmese left at the crime scene properly .
Then even a rookie prosecution lawyer would have nailed then.

Anyone bothered to find out if the pair could actually swim ?

What I should have said Blue , that based on the shabby evidence the filth produced

Originally Posted by blue

Asians going for a middle of the night swim for joy ? bullshit - have you ever seen that ? more like to get cleaned up after the murder

Perhaps they were witness to others killing the couple, saw the mobile being thrown away, and then one or both went back to get it. Maybe they thought the mobile wouldn't be traced back to them because they had no real involvement.

Don't forget, the cops were going after milky boy until the head cop was changed, then suddenly, they went after the Burmese boys.

Originally Posted by blue

Anyone bothered to find out if the pair could actually swim ?

Does it state anywhere that the pair went for a night swim?

What year did this happen, again?...This one will never be forgotten...

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It does say somewhere on this thread that he/they went back for a swim, although 'swim' could just mean thrashing about in shallow water.

Sorry Prags, the thread's too big to look for the actual posts.

for example here:

Zaw Lin told the court how he had been drinking with Wai Phyo and another friend on Sairee Beach where the victims were found when dawn broke the next day.
The court heard how the friend left the pair, who both went for a swim before going to sleep after drinking beer and wine, sharing cigarettes and playing a guitar.

Read more at Thai murder suspect ?was tortured into confession? « Jersey Evening Post

There's no news on this case
just someone here at TD decided to bump the thread

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There was a report where he/they said went back to their accommodation and then returned to the beach and the mobile was found near to the crime scene, not at it.

Just to bring things up to date. Blue you need to read this.

SAMUI: — On the 4th of October 2014 two 21 year old migrant workers from Myanmar, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo were charged with murdering two British backpackers on Siree Beach in Koh Tao.
Chillingly, this came as little surprise to ex-pat residents, not only on Koh Tao but in Koh Phangan and Koh Samui. Wai Phyo Zaw LinNot because the ex-pat population of the three popular island holiday destinations in the Gulf of Thailand knew the two young men, or their friends or indeed their families, but because mutterings of “you wait, they will fit Burmese up for this crime”.
Interestingly these rumours started circulating before Montriwat Tuwichian had even been put in the clear after being identified as a suspect by Pol Lt-Gen Panya Mamen and arrested.

Montriwat’s nephew Nomsod, the son of the village headman Worapan Tuwichian was also identified as a suspected by the General, who said both men were captured on CCTV and there was enough evidence to implicate them in the murders.

Rich and powerful players not only on the small diving Mecca of Koh Tao but with powerful connections to police, prosecutors, judges and the army it came as no surprise to anybody who has spent more than a fleeting visit to the islands that they were soon cleared of all involvement in the case.

By the time prime minister Prayut Chan o cha had announced that he could not guarantee the safety of good looking western women in bikinis and that no Thai could have committed such a heinous crime the local communities were already drawing breath wondering who would be unfortunate enough to become the fall guys for this crime, the mutterings between ex residents reached as far as New Zealand, Scandinavia, the UK and Australia.



They did not have to wait long. Little over two week after the horrific crimes that shook the nation as well as the rest of the world took place Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo were arrested and it was announced they had admitted to the crimes.
Behind closed doors murmurs of disbelief were rife, people were discussing the case in hushed voices and out the earshot of anybody connected to police or what has been termed in the press as the local mafia.

Nobody was shouting in the streets, nobody was protesting, in fact nobody was doing anything other than standing in quiet astonishment that two tiny, young, naive looking Burmese men could have committed the most hideous crime the local community had seen to date.

The other interesting fact is that at this time, nobody was breathing a sigh of relief, nobody was congratulating the police on their investigation and nobody was having a go at the hundreds of other members of the Burmese community as one might expect when members of an ethnic minority deem it appropriate to massacre two innocent young travellers.

No witnesses came forward to verify the police’s claims, no character witnesses came forward to perhaps tell their stories about the two men and their dodgy dealings, aggressive behaviour, drunken violence or the hatred of women they would have to possess in order to commit such a crime.

Nobody said anything, it all went eerily quiet until all hell broke loose on social media as over 700,000 followers of the Facebook Page CSI LA found a voice and produced way more evidence in defence of the boys than was ever seen in court.
With graphic images of the crime scene available to anybody with more than a fleeing interest in the case thanks to the police’s complete lack of due diligence in securing the crime scene and police and rescue workers feverishly uploading the ghastly photos of the scene to Facebook pages and other social media sites, amateur sleuths for the first time could draw their own conclusions with actual evidence direct from the scene within hours of the bodies being discovered.


Did over half a million people join together to try to prove Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo did not commit these diabolical crimes because they knew them? Because they had met them?

Because they had lived on Koh Tao and been in their company previously? No, it was because for the first time, thanks to social media, people who have experience of Justice Thai style could come together and have a voice.

With false names, untraceable IP addresses and the cloak of anonymity a new community formed and CSI LA and Thai Visa was buzzing with claims of mafia, corruption and scapegoating that clearly is nothing new in the minds of anybody who has any connection with the southern Thai islands.

No mention was made of what a great relief it was that two psychopathic killers were no longer on the loose, and the beaches of Koh Tao were once again safe to enjoy.

All we saw was outrage that once again those in power had managed to ‘get away with murder’ except this time the online community were standing up in defence of two men 99% of them had never encountered.
Never before had so many people come together to discuss a crime committed on Thai soil. The online community analysed the photographs of the ‘running man’ seen going to and from the crime scene during the small hours of the morning.

Interestingly Montriwat first claimed to be the man on the CCTV TV but later police confirmed it was Wai Phyo, despite the fact that Wai Phyo has a small thinning patch of hair that did not show up on the images, and that in fact Nomsod has a rather than more passing resemblance to the images seen and that during the court case an expert testified that thanks the to the unique gait of the man, it could not have been the defendant.


The online community asked questions such as if the two were guilty why were no witnesses coming forward, why was there a shroud of silence on Koh Tao?

Why was everybody afraid to speak and other questions were raised to such as why did some of the crime scene photos after the two bodies had been removed from the beach show the victims clothes strewn all over the sand when photos on the same beach that contained the body of David clearly showed their clothes piled neatly on a rock.

Why were Hannah’s clothes never tested for DNA and where did the clothes go? Why was David wearing one sock? Why would anybody going for a midnight swim or a romantic moment with a beau on the beach remove all his clothes other than one black sock?

Why was the hoe moved from the scene of the crime and then later placed back there. How could any crime scene produce concrete evidence of the kind suitable to sentence two men to death when dozens of people had trampled all over it.

Pictures of Nomsod soon popped up online that appeared to prove he was at his university in Bangkok and had not been on the island at the time of the crimes, however many found the date and times appeared to have been tampered with on the CCTV images designed to prove his whereabouts.

Images of burns and scalds found their way into the public domain that many believe proved police brutality and were evidence of torture.


Back on the ground the discussions of who committed the crimes were no longer held behind doors as the local community became aware of the fears of those who had taken their own look into the case.

The general feeling went from a fear of speaking to total outrage that two young men appeared to be taking the fall for a crime they had no involvement in, and if they really had been fitted up for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then was anybody safe?

Even local police were speaking to their ex-pat friends freely admitting they also believed the men behind bars had nothing to do with the crime and congratulating those who helped them.

Support for the two Burmese was strong on all three islands. Groups of Ex-pats rallied round to support them and later their mothers who arrived on the islands to support them during the court case that stretched over three months.
With some fear still in place donations were handed over in secret from members of the Koh Samui community who were still too afraid to show their support in public for fear of reprisal, and mutterings of “I can’t be seen to help, I have to live here” left the lips of many raising funds to support the who men as well as those endlessly researching the case in a hope of being the one who found the missing link that would give the men back their freedom.
These silent supporters came from every walk of life, every industry and every community on the islands united in their wish to see real justice done, not another case of what they believed to be the rich getting away with murder and the reputation of the islands being saved by who hapless innocents who would become the 3rd and 4th victims of the hideous crimes.
One small team of Ex-pats were less afraid, visited the two men in jail, passed on the endless messages of support from the islands and the rest of the world, gave moral and financial support and later supported the mothers of the two men, who had long since retracted the confessions they say were made under duress, proving food, housing and transport to and from the prison and the court hearings.
99% of those who got involved with the ‘online case’ support the two men the remaining 1% claim the right men are behind bars. While trial by social media bears no weight in the court there is no doubt that Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo draw great strength from behind bars knowing that hundreds and thousands of people believe in their innocence, and a great many of them continue to fight to prove it.

Source: Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo ? innocent in the ?trial by social media? - Samui Times

Won't make any difference to blue, he's a sad little turd with no life and even less spine who has found he can get attention by trolling a thread about the murder of two, and soon to be four, innocent people.

Originally Posted by Gazza

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There was a report where he/they said went back to their accommodation and then returned to the beach and the mobile was found near to the crime scene, not at it.

I remember there was a few phones, involved.


Best result now would be a definite execution date

TO quote Dr Johnson"Depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully."

to whit one of them may develop some humanity and tell what happened that night.
Sadly it looks like that scenario might not happen as western mugs are flooding money into their expensive defense so they are keeping super quiet and playing iinocent.





justice for our sister and brother, don't let the Burmese killers walk

whats this photo from samui times (post 3536)
trying to prove ?


that the burmese hair was too short to be the ''running guy ?''

well here's the 3 Burmese on their bike on the night of the murders ..
looks like the exact haircut to me ......

Yawn

Originally Posted by blue

whats this photo from samui times (post 3536) trying to prove ?

This is what it shows.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Interestingly Montriwat first claimed to be the man on the CCTV TV but later police confirmed it was Wai Phyo, despite the fact that Wai Phyo has a small thinning patch of hair that did not show up on the images, and that in fact Nomsod has a rather than more passing resemblance to the images seen and that during the court case an expert testified that thanks the to the unique gait of the man, it could not have been the defendant.

Being as some PC mod has removed my post whilst leaving other posters trash talk intact , I am henceforth flouncing from this thread.
Well done mod you have lost the opinions of the only teakoor member who thinks the illegal immigrants are guilty.
Enjoy your homogenized blandness

Originally Posted by blue

Being as some PC mod has removed my post whilst leaving other posters trash talk intact , I am henceforth flouncing from this thread.
Well done mod you have lost the opinions of the only teakoor member who thinks the illegal immigrants are guilty.
Enjoy your homogenized blandness

You say the same thing over and over again with no facts to back up your conclusion. If you must continue to be their unofficial advocate, try writing a concise fact filled and opinion free posting on exactly why they are or must be guilty.
This is not to say you're necessarily wrong, hell, you may be dead right.

Imagine we're jurors and write a concise as possible closing argument to convince us.

Originally Posted by blue

Being as some PC mod has removed my post whilst leaving other posters trash talk intact , I am henceforth flouncing from this thread.
Well done mod you have lost the opinions of the only teakoor member who thinks the illegal immigrants are guilty.
Enjoy your homogenized blandness

Finally, at last, they are putting paid to your trolling.

So Blue, is your flounce a way of saying you realise you've had it wrong all along?

Originally Posted by blue

Being as some PC mod has removed my post whilst leaving other posters trash talk intact , I am henceforth flouncing from this thread.
Well done mod you have lost the opinions of the only teakoor member who thinks the illegal immigrants are guilty.
Enjoy your homogenized blandness

A photo of a bottle of champagne and a post saying you'll celebrate when they are executed is not opinion, it's crass and insensitive attention whoring.

Originally Posted by BobR

You say the same thing over and over again with no facts to back up your conclusion.

He just likes to be contrary. Too little attention at home, I suspect.

Just out of interest, anybody know where the 2 Thai guys accused are now? Still doing the rounds in the bars?

Free as birds why would they worry,two other blokes will swing for them.

Obviously free as birds, but would interest me to know if they were still in circulation or now studying in another country, etc. Probably not the thug, but old headmans son? Be interesting to know what he's at.