Ratch, "in your area"....
What about outside "your area"?
Don't you think that if there was not a problem of epic proportions here the Govt. could easily trundle out reports, accounts and audits to show that?
I don't see what all the fuss is about, the gov took a 17bn GSB loan for some breathing space on the rice pledge, and by the time the money has to be repaid it'll be the headache of another gov.
Unfortunately this is a constant headache of govs that succeed govs with populist policies, but I guess that's compensated by actually managing to slither into power.
Yes indeed. Kinda the way it works in any country that has a vote. To win a popular election best to have populist policy. And surprise, surprise guess who pays for populist policies. The taxpayers you say! You are a winner. Go collect some toffies and your official TeakDoor amulet at a 7/11 near you.Originally Posted by S Landreth
Yingluck summoned on rice scheme corruption charges
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It seems more like what I would call a formal investigation- such as an ICAC investigation in HK. Fair enough too- but as I understand it, formal judicial charges would follow if sufficient evidence of malfeasance, or dereliction of duty, is established.Originally Posted by taxexile
Best to have a policy.Originally Posted by Norton
Some third hand definitely in play when a democratically elected Sovereign Government is blocked from borrowing money.
Still , a bit of quantative easing ought to sort things.
the third hand is pulling your stringOriginally Posted by Dandyhole
takky dissolved the govt to soon - with the last bond issue failing in november he fcuked the ponzi scheme right up
the rice farmers have been bent over and fcuked by the party that paid for their loyalty
common luck of your average prostitutes - kicked out the door without the taxi money and having security loosed upon you
If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.
^ No, he had the timing just about right.
Most of the Reds voted before the extent of ricegate was known and well before they start to see the trickle down effect in their little red shanty towns.
A season of no crops and all the flow on effects is yet to be seen by the non rice farmers.
^ the govt knew it was about to collapse, its why Thaksin's amnesty attempt included the period covering the rice scam.
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ชาวนา "นครสวรรค์-อุทัยฯ" รวมตัวเคลื่อนเข้ากรุงทวงเงินจำนำข้าว
Farmers of "Nakornsawan & Uthaithani" gathered to travel to Bangkok to ask for the payment of their rice (in the article it mentions 10,000 farmers)
is on the way
Convoy of "farm-tractors" farmers from Uthaithani travel to Bangkok for Rice Payment
Last edited by S Landreth; 19-02-2014 at 07:44 PM.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
obviously fake tractors and fake farmers, if we are to believe our resident Thaksinite Red supporters
which proves again that the majority of those farmers aren't too smart,Originally Posted by hillbilly
they shouldn't be let near a voting booth if they can't see such a scam so close to them,
next time they should just choose "no vote" and let Thailand politics to the Bangkok people,
But how many Bangkokians are from Bangkok? They reckon a good percentage are migrant workers from the red shirt areas.Originally Posted by Butterfly
190257 ชาวนาร่ำไห้หลังถูกอดีตส ส เพื่อไทยขัดขวางเข้ากรุงเทพ
19Feb2014 Farmer (according to the news, she’s from Lopburi) cries after ex-MP of Phuethai obstructed her to travel to Bangkok
^ Isn't that a bit like Norman Lamont stopping people from crossing the road?
they don't vote in Bangkok, so who cares, they are not residentOriginally Posted by Pragmatic
All depends whether they notify the Amphur as to change of address.Originally Posted by Butterfly
the concern is that they might start caring- and they would have a considerable point.Originally Posted by Butterfly
it is rather anachronistic to have to travel hundreds of kilometre's from the place you work and live with your family, to the place you had grown up, to cast your vote- as you are required to do, by law. seems to me only a matter of time before they do start caring, frankly.
They don't have to travel
Early voting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thai PM protests innocence amid sacking threat
February 20, 2014
Thai PM protests innocence amid sacking threat Bangkok
(AFP)
Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Thursday protested her innocence after an anti-corruption panel filed charges of neglect of duty that could lead to her removal from office.
Yingluck, who has faced almost four months of mass street protests demanding her resignation, questioned why the investigation by the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) into an expensive rice subsidy scheme had apparently been fast-tracked.
"I reaffirm that I am innocent of the accusations by the NACC," Yingluck said on her official Facebook page.
"Even though I am accused of criminal charges and face removal (from office), which were the wishes of people who want to overthrow the government, I am willing to cooperate to establish the facts," she added.
The NACC says Yingluck ignored warnings that the rice scheme was fostering corruption and causing financial losses. She has been summoned to hear the charges on February 27.
Yingluck urged the panel not to rush to deliver a ruling "which may be criticised by society as benefiting people who want to overthrow the government". She noted that similar complaints against the previous administration were still under investigation.
Her critics say the controversial scheme, which guarantees farmers above-market rates for rice, has encouraged corruption, drained the public coffers and left the country with a mountain of unsold stock.
Yingluck said she was simply trying to improve the lives of farmers.
In another legal setback to Yingluck, a Civil Court on Wednesday ordered the government not to use force against peaceful protests, limiting the authorities' scope to deal with opposition rallies that have descended into violence on several occasions.
Authorities announced they would swiftly appeal the decision, saying it has crippled their ability to keep order and uphold the law.
"Protesters can lay siege to government offices and obstruct elections as the public has seen," Tarit Pengdith, of the agency in charge of the security response to the crisis, said in a televised address Thursday.
"That's not right," he said, adding their work "has been stopped" by the court ruling.
Sixteen people have been killed, both protesters and policemen, and hundreds injured in gunfire and grenade blasts linked to demonstrations.
New York-based Human Rights Watch accused both sides of using live ammunition in clashes on Tuesday in Bangkok's historic district in which five people were killed and dozens wounded.
"Excessive force by the police and violence by groups on both sides of the political divide needs to stop to prevent this situation from escalating out of control," HRW Asia director Brad Adams said in a statement.
The government has said security forces used only rubber bullets and not live ammunition.
Protesters accuse Yingluck's billionaire family of using taxpayers' money to buy the loyalty of rural voters through populist policies such as the rice scheme.
Shinawatra business interests are the latest target of the demonstrators, with their firebrand protest leader calling for a boycott of several companies.
"All Shinawatra businesses must collapse," Suthep Thaugsuban said to cheering crowd outside a building linked to the family.
The opposition demonstrators want Yingluck to step down and make way for a temporary unelected government that would oversee loosely defined reforms to tackle corruption and alleged vote-buying.
They accuse her hugely divisive brother Thaksin, a former premier ousted in a 2006 coup and successful businessman, of running the government from overseas, where he lives to avoid a jail term on corruption charges.
The country's main opposition party boycotted a February 2 election which Yingluck called to try to defuse the protests. The results are not expected to be known until balloting is held in constituencies where voting was disrupted by protesters.
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They’re still on their way
Suvarnabhumi airport braces for rice farmer protest
Suvarnabhumi airport has set aside its long-term parking area to host around 1,000 farmers coming to Bangkok to demand rice-pledging payments from the caretaker government.
The farmers are travelling to the capital in a convoy of about 400 e-taen farm trucks, 10 ten-wheel trucks, 12 six-wheel trucks, 50 pick-up trucks and about 150 motorcycles.
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ม็อบชาวนาเคลื่อนอีแต๋นเข้ากรุงแล้ว
The group of farmers traveled by farm tractors to Bangkok
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มาแล้ว!ม็อบอีแต๋น 600คันบุกกรุง-ปิดสายเอเชีย4ช่องทาง
On their way! Convoy of 600 farm tractors are coming to Bangkok-occupy 4 lanes of Asia 4
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Farmers in hundreds of farm trucks heading to Bangkok
Tens of thousands of farmers from the lower northern and central regions in several hundreds of farm trucks and pickup trucks are now heading for Bangkok to demand immediate payment for their rice. The first group of farmers are expected to arrive late this afternoon in Bangkok to join their colleagues at the Commerce Ministry.
Latest report said the long convoy of farmers riding in their E-tan and E-tek farm trucks which moved as slowly as 20 kilometers an hour are in In-buri district. Their convoys of over a hundred of farm trucks caused inbound traffic on the Phaholyothin to a standstill as they travel on all lanes.
The farmers from Uthai Thani, Nakhon Sawan, Lopburi, Ang Thong, Singburi, headed to Bangkok from various meeting points but with the one destination, the Commerce Ministry.
Along the way to Bangkok, farmers were disrupted by red-shirt supporters .
In Lopburi a former ruling Pheu Thai party MP Phichai Kiatvinaisakul and a number of red-shirts urged them not to protest in Bangkok.
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Some Thai rice in storage (from the Nation)
Last edited by S Landreth; 20-02-2014 at 05:49 PM.
you have to feel sorry for Y, she was doing OK until her silly brother forced her to go for an Amnesty and then she did the stupidest thing, call for an early election instead of sending the police to clear the protest site
fell into every trap, and here we are. Sadly, she will have to go. Not sure the next PM is going to be any better, probably worst by the look of things.
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