Thread: American murdered in Krabi cos he wouldn't stop singing

the yank wanted to sing Hotel California but the band didnt like that tune

Originally Posted by chingching

reignite the issue of tourist safety in Thailand

I wasn't aware that the flame had gone out

The band killed him!

US tourist stabbed by Thai musicians after he would not stop singing - Telegraph

Originally Posted by chingching

the yank wanted to sing Hotel California but the band didnt like that tune

No, the exact opposite according to the USA Huffington Post - the band played Hotel California

Carter, a Texas native, was intoxicated, began singing with the band and refused to leave the stage to let other customers sing.

"Witnesses said Carter got angry when the band played 'Hotel California' instead of the song he requested, and he refused to step down," Krabi city police chief Col. Taksin Pochakorn said.

Police said the band then stopped playing and Carter and his 27-year-old son got into a furious argument with the musicians.

If you've seen the movie The Big Lebowski you'll appreciate this line:
"I hate the fcuking Eagles, man"

Then it all went horribly wrong.

farang dead stats for july......

Bobby Carter, USA, 51 - Krabi, 31 July 2013
Robert Caswell, USA, 65 - Pattaya, 29 July 2013
Alberto Menesini, Italy, 69 - Chiang Mai, 29 June 2013
John Wallengren, Sweden, 27 - Kohn Kaen, 21 July 2013
Dmitry Onishchenko, Russia, 32 - Phuket, 22 July 2013
Robbie Robinson, Ireland, 32 - Bangkok (died Ireland), 22 July 2013
Unidentified male, 68 - Samutprakan, Bangkok, 18 July 2013
Daniel Gibbons, USA, 55 - Chiang Mai, 16 July 2013
Stephen Timothy Clifford, UK, 21 - Chiang Mai, 14 July 2013
Owen Dalby, Australia, 20 - Koh Phangan, 14 July 2013
David Cavallin, Sweden, 43 - Pattaya, 11 July 2013
Mark Carroll, USA, 60 - Phuket, 7 July 2013
Troy Lee Pilkington, USA, 50 - Bangkok, 6 July 2013
Robert Haydon deWolfe, USA, - Pattaya, 6 July 2013
Unidentified male, Russia - Pattaya, 5 July 2013
Frank Hartwig, Germany, 46 - Udon Thani, 4 July 2013
Kho Khay Gym, Russia, 32 - Phuket, 2 July 2013
Cliff Bamford, USA, 69 - Phuket, 1 July 2013

^ under 20?
that would only be the newsworthy ones, must he so many more that just 'pass'
a few weeks back UK's FCO said over 300 Brits died in Thailand last year, so should be 20-30 every month on average, that list only shows 2. 130 or so Australians there's another 10 a month. All the USA, Euros, Russians they die too?
Who counts all the old-age/natural causes ones, and even then they'd only get the ones Thai police notify embassies about.

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Krabi a nice part of Thailand but the natives are the same all over!

RIP another falang murdered in the land of smiles!

So Krabi is nice and Pattaya is shit eh... typical bs

Come on Socal I will put up the 5,000baht for you to drink a glass of pattaya beach water.

Pint glass.

Originally Posted by prawnograph

^ under 20?
that would only be the newsworthy ones, must he so many more that just 'pass'
a few weeks back UK's FCO said over 300 Brits died in Thailand last year, so should be 20-30 every month on average, that list only shows 2. 130 or so Australians there's another 10 a month. All the USA, Euros, Russians they die too?
Who counts all the old-age/natural causes ones, and even then they'd only get the ones Thai police notify embassies about.

yep the high profile cases but theres lots more the press must miss .
that go unnoticed

Originally Posted by chingching

farang dead stats for july......

Bobby Carter, USA, 51 - Krabi, 31 July 2013
Robert Caswell, USA, 65 - Pattaya, 29 July 2013
Alberto Menesini, Italy, 69 - Chiang Mai, 29 June 2013
John Wallengren, Sweden, 27 - Kohn Kaen, 21 July 2013
Dmitry Onishchenko, Russia, 32 - Phuket, 22 July 2013
Robbie Robinson, Ireland, 32 - Bangkok (died Ireland), 22 July 2013
Unidentified male, 68 - Samutprakan, Bangkok, 18 July 2013
Daniel Gibbons, USA, 55 - Chiang Mai, 16 July 2013
Stephen Timothy Clifford, UK, 21 - Chiang Mai, 14 July 2013
Owen Dalby, Australia, 20 - Koh Phangan, 14 July 2013
David Cavallin, Sweden, 43 - Pattaya, 11 July 2013
Mark Carroll, USA, 60 - Phuket, 7 July 2013
Troy Lee Pilkington, USA, 50 - Bangkok, 6 July 2013
Robert Haydon deWolfe, USA, - Pattaya, 6 July 2013
Unidentified male, Russia - Pattaya, 5 July 2013
Frank Hartwig, Germany, 46 - Udon Thani, 4 July 2013
Kho Khay Gym, Russia, 32 - Phuket, 2 July 2013
Cliff Bamford, USA, 69 - Phuket, 1 July 2013

We can only hope the list expands for the August posting..

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Krabi a nice part of Thailand but the natives are the same all over!

RIP another falang murdered in the land of smiles!

So Krabi is nice and Pattaya is shit eh... typical bs

Come on Socal I will put up the 5,000baht for you to drink a glass of pattaya beach water.

I'll bung in another 5,000baht.....

Anyone who has been married to a Thai for more than 2 days, will know that many Thais have a hot temper.

I have had taxi cab drivers want to fight me, because I refused to get into their cab after being quoted a ridiculously high, set price (in lieu of using the meter).

Taking money out of a tip jar after you have put it in, is considered "stealing" in many cultures. Thailand is no exception.

Drunken tourists really do seem "ask for it" in many cases. That's what happens when the booze lets the "reptile brain" take over.

Still, that's a pretty hard price to pay for a lesson in tourist etiquette.

I started a thread sometime ago, concerning increasing anti-falong sentiment in many parts of Thailand. Although many TD posters accused me of being paranoid, naive, etc, my comments were based upon things my Thai family (including a BIL who is a police captain) have related to me over the last couple of years.

Best advice IMO, is to stay sober and remember you are in their country.

RickThai

A Texan loudmouth died.

Nothing of value was lost and the collective IQ of humanity ticked up a notch.

Originally Posted by RickThai

Best advice IMO, is to stay sober and remember you are in their country.

That's not your advice though is it? Your advice is to be armed with illegal weapons.

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

Krabi a nice part of Thailand but the natives are the same all over!

RIP another falang murdered in the land of smiles!

So Krabi is nice and Pattaya is shit eh... typical bs

Come on Socal I will put up the 5,000baht for you to drink a glass of pattaya beach water.

Yeah I'd like to head to Thailand sometime in the next few months.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

A Texan loudmouth died.

Nothing of value was lost and the collective IQ of humanity ticked up a notch.

But this humor is no longer acceptable

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Come on Socal I will put up the 5,000baht for you to drink a glass of pattaya beach water.

You could be charged with manslaughter.

Originally Posted by Bung

My money is on bail, then they run of and entertain Laotians or Cambodians for a couple of years.

You mean the acclaimed the Duangchalerm Method.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

A Texan loudmouth died.

TD has one member like that.

Originally Posted by chingching

they all say the same 'we never intended to kill him' or her .the whole country has citizens armed to the teeth with dangerous weapons ready to kick off at the slightest provocation/ he joins a list of expats and farangs murdered over the last 30 years ,1000s and 1000s of them .the chiang mai guesthouse murder still remains unsolved .

Thais don't know what the laws are and have no faith in law or the police. Why can't Thailand get its act together and enforce any laws fairly? I blame this on the Thai government, the disgusting elite who control for their own profits, and of course the esteemed institutions of Thailand. Same old story but of course those involved can be blamed for being straight out fools.

another day, another news version of what happened. Aad that bloody Hotel California song again, been the cause of all the trouble. Before it was the band playing HC and the Carters not liking it, now it is reversed.
Out on bail - their re-enactment will have shown them defending themselves against alcohol-crazed Texans (and the Texans started it) . . . any guess on the penalty/sentence?

Phuketwan
1 August 2013

PHUKET: Three men accused of murdering an American in the 'Hotel California' killing at a Thai tourist holiday town have been granted bail and allowed to walk free, local police said today.

''The men have taken part in a reenactment and so we have granted them bail,'' he said. ''We have no problem with this.

''The men have not tried to run away. There has been no attempt to escape.''

According to the Superintendent of the local police, Colonel Taskin Phonchakarn, the dispute began inside the Long Horn Saloon as the band was finishing its performance.

''The leader told the audience at midnight that the next song would be the last song,'' the superintendent said today.

''A Thai customer asked for a song and the band played that song. Then the Americans asked for one more song, 'Hotel California,''' the superintendent said.

''One of them pulled out some dollars and said 'This is for Hotel California.' But the band had finished its set for the night.

''They put down their instruments and left the bar.''

Words were exchanged inside the bar as the musicians left, the superintendent said.

''When the American group of three men and two women went outside, they found the musicians sitting not far away, just relaxing.

''The American, Adam, said something like 'What the f - - -' then threw a punch at one of the musicians,'' the superintendent said.

The case will be taken to court tomorrow, with the prosecutor interviewing witnesses before the Americans fly home.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

the collective IQ of humanity ticked up a notch.

Not so, three members of the worlds ugliest, stupidest and most egotistical sub species, the thai male from the bumpkin class, remain alive. These neanderthals, these missing links, thoughtlessly spray their poisonous sperm around impregnating naive, impressionable and equally stupid bumpkinettes giving rise to yet another generation of hopeless sub human knuckle dragging simpletons with a penchant for irresponsibility and violence.

Damn their eyes, the lot of them.

theyre not afraid of jail ,after they get a silly sentence then a royal pardon a few years later .
thais that shot dead farang for giving the finger got a sentence of 6 weeks in the past

Thai suspect granted bail in death of US tourist
The Associated Press


Published: Friday, Aug. 2, 2013 - 7:48 am
Last Modified: Friday, Aug. 2, 2013 - 9:09 am




BANGKOK -- A bar musician accused of stabbing an American tourist to death in southern Thailand has been released on bail, police said Friday.

Police Col. Boontawee Toraksa said three band members at a bar in the southern resort town of Ao Nang were arrested after the attack early Wednesday on Bobby Ray Carter Jr., 51, a Texas resident. He said they were charged with causing death by physical attack, punishable by up to 15 years' imprisonment.

Boontawee said a court granted bail Thursday to the man who allegedly stabbed Carter, Ratikorn Romin, 27, over police objections, while his band mates were ordered held.

Police said Carter argued with the musicians in the bar where they had been playing and was stabbed with an iron rod during a confrontation when they went outside.

The dead man's son, Adam Carter, 27, was wounded in the arm and was treated at a hospital and released.

A woman who described herself as Carter's cousin, Kiki Bower of Dallas, Texas, said that according to Carter's wife Kelly, who was present during the incident, Carter had not provoked the violence.

Police said Carter's wife and son were to be interviewed Friday, but details of their testimony were not available. They did not respond to repeated requests for interviews, and Bower said they were too distraught to talk to reporters.

Police said Thursday that according to their preliminary investigation, Carter was drunk, began singing with the band and refused to leave the stage to let other customers sing.

"Witnesses said Carter got angry when the band played 'Hotel California' instead of the song he requested, and he refused to step down," police chief Col. Taksin Pochakorn said. He said the band then stopped playing and Carter and his son got into an argument with the musicians.

"We appreciate the swift action by the Thai police to capture the three men who took Bobby's life and are calling on the Thai justice system to hold these criminals accountable to the fullest extent of the law for this senseless loss of life," Bower said in an email.

More than 22 million foreigners visited Thailand last year. Most tourists encounter no serious problems, but several high-profile deaths and other incidents have prompted calls for greater safety.

In June, a group of European ambassadors visited the tourist island of Phuket to urge officials to do more to ensure foreigners are safe.

Wiyada Srirangkul, director of the Tourism Authority of Thailand's Krabi provincial office, expressed regret over Carter's death and said it "definitely gives a negative image to the province's tourism."

"Fatal incidents like this are rare, since Krabi usually attracts foreign tourists who come in families or travelers who seek tranquility," she said, adding that there aren't many clusters of bars except in Ao Nong where the killing occurred. She said Krabi had 2.9 million visitors last year.

"The authorities are trying to speed up the case and make sure justice is given to every side," Wiyada said. "Police will also need to make sure incidents like this do not happen again."

National Tourism Police chief Maj. Gen. Roy Inkabhairoj said authorities "have taken all necessary measures to provide safety to foreign tourists, but this kind of situation is sometimes beyond our control."

"It was a quarrel between the dead man and the suspects. This is something that's hard for us to prevent," he said. "What we could do once it happened was to catch the suspects, and we did that quickly right at the bar."


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