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    Terror chief killed in Philippines

    Thursday, 2 February 2012

    Colonel Marcelo Burgos shows a picture of Malaysian Zulkifli bin Hir, a top leader of the Jemaah Islamiyah terror network (AP)




    South-east Asia's most-wanted terrorist and two other senior militants have been killed in a US-backed air strike in the Philippines, military chiefs said.Filipino troops did not immediately recover bodies after the dawn strike on a militant stronghold on a southern island, but military spokesman Colonel Marcelo Burgos said the dead included Malaysian Zulkifi bin Hir, also known as Marwan, a top leader of the regional, al Qaida-linked Jemaah Islamiyah terror network.
    Also killed in the strike were the leader of the Philippines-based Abu Sayyaf militants, Umbra Jumdail, and a Singaporean leader in Jemaah Islamiyah, Abdullah Ali, who used the guerrilla name Muawiyah, Col Burgos said.
    Forensic investigators could not immediately approach the heavily forested mountain camp hit in the strike because the area remains under the control of another rebel group, Moro National Liberation Front, which signed a peace pact with the government in 1996, said regional military commander Major General Noel Coballes.
    He said no one was captured after the air strike and that some militants escaped and then returned to retrieve the bodies of those who died. It is unclear if they also recovered the bodies of the three leaders, he said.
    About 30 militants were in the camp near Parang town on Jolo Island, the stronghold of the Abu Sayyaf and their allies from the mostly Indonesian-based Jemaah Islamiyah, when it was bombarded by two OV10 aircraft, Maj Gen Coballes said.
    "Our report is there were at least 15 killed, including their three leadership," he said. "This is a deliberate, fully planned attack coming from our forces."
    The US had offered a five million dollar (£3.2 million) reward for the capture of Marwan, a US-trained engineer accused of involvement in a number of deadly bombings in the Philippines and in the training of new militants.
    American counter-terrorism troops have helped ill-equipped Filipino troops track Marwan for years using satellite and drone surveillance. About 600 US special forces troops have been deployed in the southern Philippines since 2002, providing a crucial support for the Philippines' counter-terrorism operations.
    If confirmed, Marwan's death would mark the most important success against regional terror network Jemaah Islamiyah since the January 2011 arrest of Indonesian suspect Umar Patek in Pakistan's garrison town of Abbottabad, where Osama bin Laden was killed in a US commando attack four months later.



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    Pretty good hit by the boys out here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Pretty good hit by the boys out here.

    Maybe, maybe not

    If confirmed, Marwan's death would mark the most important success against regional terror network Jemaah Islamiyah since the January 2011 arrest of Indonesian suspect Umar Patek in Pakistan's garrison town of Abbottabad, where Osama bin Laden was killed in a US commando attack four months later.


    Still not confirmed and probably never will be like the number of times the Yanks said Osama was reportedly killed. Hold the back slapping until the proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    OV10 aircraft


    North American Rockwell OV-10 Bronco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Not really, after about 3 or 4 virgins it would get quite frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Pretty good hit by the boys out here.

    Maybe, maybe not

    If confirmed, Marwan's death would mark the most important success against regional terror network Jemaah Islamiyah since the January 2011 arrest of Indonesian suspect Umar Patek in Pakistan's garrison town of Abbottabad, where Osama bin Laden was killed in a US commando attack four months later.


    Still not confirmed and probably never will be like the number of times the Yanks said Osama was reportedly killed. Hold the back slapping until the proof.
    Valid point, but there may well never be proof. They dropped four 500 lb bombs on the site and Marwan's body may have been vaporized, or removed. The bodies of the other two leaders have been recovered and positively identified. So, whether Marwan's body is found or not, folks out here are very pleased that one of the major players in Abu Sayaf is out of play.

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    The muslim paradise will soon be running out of virgins...Do the feeble-minded bastards really believe this shite ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpui View Post
    Still not confirmed and probably never will be like the number of times the Yanks said Osama was reportedly killed. Hold the back slapping until the proof.
    I do agree the Filipino’s are being a bit optimistic about confirmed deaths since they have no presence on the ground and there has been plenty of time to remove any bodies.

    Suspect the “confirmation” is based on reports from the pilots and other airborne observers something to effect “they must be all dead, nothing could survive that”
    Actually, the US has only reported Osama as being killed once. That would be on May 1, 2010 when he was confirmed dead.

    There have been a number of other reports by various sources,

    How many times Osama Bin Laden Died | Information Ground
    On 1st December 2001 it was announced for the first time that Osama is killed by joint venture of American and British army.This announcement was made by a army officer of Pakistan Hajrat Ali.

    Just after 24 days of the first announcement, Pakistan reported the death of Osama Bin Laden.It was reported that Laden is died in mountains of Tora-Bora with heart attack.

    On 18 January 2002, Pakistan's Ex-President Mr.Parvej Musharaff declared that Laden is died due to Kidney failure.

    Saudi Arabian Newspaper declined the death of Osama Bin Laden on 9 March 2002 on account of Laden's wife.On 17th March 2002,a Talibani leader claimed that Osama is not dead.

    Again on 12th June 2002,a Russian Newspaper published the news of death of Osama Bin laden.This report was declined by Al-arbi, London's Newspaper, in July 2002.

    Just before the President election in USA in 2004,Osama Bin Lden launched a video tape to show that he is not dead and is working against USA.

    France's Spy reported on September 2006 that Osama bin Laden is died because of Typhoid.
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    ^Filipino military has been in on the ground, and positively identified two of the 15 bodies which were more or less intact as those of the two leaders other than Marwan. The house in which Marwan was known to be staying took an almost direct hit from a 500 lb bomb, and was obliterated. We may well never know if he was killed or not; if he doesn't surface again, probably can count him as dead. I am very well aware of the Filipino propensity to claim immediate success without solid proof (and the US as well), but in this case, it looks like a win.

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    ^No troops on the ground, just local police and informants. The accounts are somewhat contradictory..
    Philippine Military: Senior Militants Killed In Raid : NPR
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    Police recovered the bodies of the three militant leaders, and they were "positively identified by police and our intelligence informants at the site," Burgos told The Associated Press. "What I know is that they will be buried."

    About 30 militants were at the camp near Parang town on Jolo Island, the stronghold of the Abu Sayyaf and their allies from the mostly Indonesian-based Jemaah Islamiyah, when it was bombarded by two OV10 aircraft at 3 a.m., regional military commander Maj. Gen. Noel Coballes said.

    "Our report is there were at least 15 killed, including their three leadership," he said. "This is a deliberate, fully planned attack coming from our forces."
    The rest of the militants escaped and no one was captured after the attack, Coballes said.

    However, two Philippine security officials with knowledge of the airstrike told the AP that Marwan's body was not found, contradicting Burgos' statement. They said it was not clear if it was because of the bombs' shattering impact on a house where Marwan was believed to be.

    They said the body of Jumdail, also known as Dr. Abu Pula, was buried later Thursday. One of the officials said the dead included Jumdail's son, also an Abu Sayyaf fighter.

    Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters....
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    ^I was on the phone three hours ago with an Army officer who had just returned to Zamboanga from the site.

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    ^
    That’s cool. Was going by published reports.

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    ^Years of experience working with these guys still leaves me taking not even eye witness reports as fact. 500 lb bombs make a mess. Still, he appeared quite convinced of the identities of the two, and he is a solid guy not prone to embellishment. But, given the propensity to bury them immediately per Muslim custom, we may well never know with absolute certainty.

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    I know they say it's 72 virgins, but there's never any mention as to whether they're 72 hot virgins, for all these muzzies know they may end up with 72 mingers, fatties with facial hair and a limp.

    I'd call that justice.

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