Thread: Extension retirement visa ,bank money

Originally Posted by toddaniels

If the above is correct you won't need anything other than the notarized US Embassy letter which is called the "Income Affidavit" showing at least 65K baht income per month.
Here's the online version you can fill out & print before you go to the US Embassy to get it notarized..

Thanks, already have it from the Embassy.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Just as an aside. I know people from the US who get SS and military pensions direct deposited straight into their Bangkok Bank account because Bangkok Bank is the only thai bank with a US branch. Once it hits the NY branch it shows up at their local BB branch here in Thailand within a day. Now these were set up a few fair years ago, (before the BB in New York went to business accounts only).

Same account I have but your friends are not telling you the whole story. You must transfer the money from the direct deposit account into a savings account. No way around that.

Oh, that banking info could be like that, I dunno, and the guys who have it are dinosaurs and not really up on what's what.. lol...

Let us know how the extension goes AND if using your Surin address will slide thru on getting an extension of stay in Jomtien. Handz down Jomtien is the most user friendly Immigrations office to deal with and have the "softest touch".

Except (if the reports are to be believed) they are asking people who want to extend 30 day visa exempt stamps by an additional 30 days (per the new Police order) for 3000baht rather than the "real price" of 1900baht.

^I agree about them having the 'softest touch'. I neglected to file 90 day reports for 10 years and when I did my first one at the Pattaya office they only fined me 2000 baht instead of the stated 5000 baht fine.
Thanks for your help Tod.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by OhOh

What is the total cost from Perth, with all the info charges?

O-A Multi entry visa from Canberra = $220

Police clearance = $60

Medical report = $ 80

Registered post to Canberra = $12

Time to gather all the above info, post to Canberra and return to Perth = 3 weeks Minimum.

Well worth the effort, I'll do it again in two years.

No probs for me as I combine it with my bi-annual trip home.

May I ask on what basis did get your O-A multi entry, and how long is your permitted to stay stamp for?

^
Yes you may.

My basis for the O-A was Retirement.

After meeting all of the criteria it was granted for 12 months complete with a Multi entry stamp.

I was stamped in the other day till 30 October 2015.

Happy Days.

Originally Posted by terry57

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Yes you may.

My basis for the O-A was Retirement.

After meeting all of the criteria it was granted for 12 months complete with a Multi entry stamp.

I was stamped in the other day till 30 October 2015.

Happy Days.

Great job.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Oh, that banking info could be like that, I dunno, and the guys who have it are dinosaurs and not really up on what's what.. lol...

Let us know how the extension goes AND if using your Surin address will slide thru on getting an extension of stay in Jomtien. Handz down Jomtien is the most user friendly Immigrations office to deal with and have the "softest touch".

Except (if the reports are to be believed) they are asking people who want to extend 30 day visa exempt stamps by an additional 30 days (per the new Police order) for 3000baht rather than the "real price" of 1900baht.

I was able to do my 90 day again with the Surin address in Pattaya but no dice for the retirement extension. Have to do that in my jang wat. Looks like a 150k roundtrip to Kap Choeng from my house next week. I guess we will have to pay the border market a visit while in the area.

Humbert I kinda sorta thought you were gonna get kicked back by Jomtien.

I'd inagine if you'da filed a TM.28 change of address in Jomtien then done a 90 day report WITH your Jomtien address (a couple times) AND used a local address on your TM.7 it might have flown thru.

Good Luck...

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Humbert I kinda sorta thought you were gonna get kicked back by Jomtien.

I'd inagine if you'da filed a TM.28 change of address in Jomtien then done a 90 day report WITH your Jomtien address (a couple times) AND used a local address on your TM.7 it might have flown thru.

Good Luck...

They said I would need to establish a residence in Jang wat Chon Buri for 30 days for them to have jurisdiction. However the guy in the adjacent photo/copy shop to Immigration said he could run it through for a fee.

Which is exactly why I said

"IF you'da filed a TM.28 change of address in Jomtien then done a 90 day report WITH your Jomtien address (a couple times)".

Filing the change of address and then doing a 90 day report WITH that address most likely woulda hit the mark in the eyez of the thaiz, no matter what b/s excuse they parroted to you...

You'da already been in their system with a Chon Buri address, NOT the address in Surin.

^Hindsight is certainly 20/20. I fully anticipated doing my visa related business in Surin but I am spending much more time down here than I thought I would. So it's not such a big deal. I will be in Surin next week and make the drive to Kap Choeng.

Went to CNX Immigration Office on 18/12. Queue-on-line system. CNX office has got a reputation for a long wait.The precess was very long. In & out within 30 minutes.
Placing B800k in a Thai bank makes life too simple - single or married - less paperwork.
I was applying for an extension of an O-A visa - retirement visa.

Well, glad it sailed right thru! That online queue system lets you book 100 days early however it's usually booked out the second more slots open up.. Bangkok has an online queue system but I've never gotten it to work EVER...

Please realize; no one is disputing that the 800K banked money method doesn't work. However I imagine you woulda sailed thru with an Embassy letter just as easily...

You are quite thick on terminology aren't you..

You might have originally had a Non-Immigrant Type-OA visa (which you'da got in your country BEFORE you set foot here; requires a police back ground check, a medical certificate, proof of meeting financial criteria, etc)..

However what you were doing at immigrations was applying for a "yearly extension of stay" based on being over 50, meeting the requirements and on having previously held a Non Immigrant visa (which is now expired).

You NEVER "renew" a visa, nor do you "renew" an extension of stay, you apply for a new extension of stay every single year. It doesn't matter how many years you've done that, it doesn't count for anything.. UNLESS:

If you were getting yearly extensions of stay and have an "unbroken chain of them" since Oct 21, 1998; there is a grandfather clause. People who were over 60 at that time need only 200K in the bank, and people who were 55 at that time need only 400K in the bank.

Of all the hundreds of foreigners I know living here I know of only two who have managed to keep their extensions of stay unbroken, without fucking it up some how and they show the reduced financial requirements. Although every time they go to Immigrations it's a dog-n-pony show trying to push it thru; because almost NO one has 16+ years of unbroken extensions of stay.

Whatever you reckon, Tod. Call it what you like. In summary, I have had a retirement visa ever since 2003. B800k is about USD25k. For me that is a great investment.
Pedantics as you will - I have no concerns until Dec next year.
BTW, living in any part of CNX Privince requiresa trip to CNx - even if Chiang Rai is closer.

The 800K in the bank method for Australians has just got a whole lot more unnecessary up against using a small part of ones brain and going the Embassy letter.

Exchange rates at 30 Baht to 1 AUD came in at $26,666 .

Today at 26 Baht to 1 AUD its $30,769 tied up in a Thai bank earning virtually nothing.

Be a tad stupid to go down that route when the embassy letter is so easy to obtain for us Australians.

But then again if one is going to use that money during the year and then replenish it when the time comes to renew the extension that will work.

Dead money sitting there though earning zero.

Thank you for your financial guidance, Kuhn Guru. Living in Nth Thailand brings into play different logistics. The method I utilise has been quite comfortable for me for 12 years now.
When are you avaliable for an appointment for financial advice?
$$$ in LOS or Oz - no superannuation=little difference. Financial risk?

"cnx37" you've had "yearly extensions of stay" for every year since 2003.. Your original visa expired when you applied for your first extension way back when...

In fact you've NEVER had a "retirement visa" for this country! No matter what engrish they stamp into your passport.. Even if you originally got a Non-Immigrant Type-OA, it'da been called a "longstay" visa.

WOW! What a great investment! You must be raking in the profit! The less than one percent interest paid on money a straight savings account in thailand hasta be one money making machine for you!

Now a fixed deposit account yields more but; different immigrations offices have different criteria on if they'll accept a time or fixed deposit accounts. The linch-pin seems to be IF you can access the money any time with just a trip to the bank or not..

"cnx37" goddess bless you, please call it what ever you want to and by all means tie your money up how ever you want to too..

Glad you got another year....

^That's fine and dandy for you amigo. Just don't forget 800k baht isn't just chump change for many expats who've been gored by the system..
You be lucky and managed your finances with educated intelligence. Not everyone is so lucky.

Mr Earl, I comprehendo.
In LOS, I am fine. In UK, I am stuffed.
From memory, immigrants to Oz (excl refugees) need several $00,000 in order to enter the playground.
In a smaller way, a similar philosophy applies here in LOS.
In reality, I would be surprised what the expat community contribute to LOS in a financial way.
It is not all about what is in it for me. Sometimes, what can one contribute applies.

See ya

NEWS FLASH "cnx37": what we ain't talkin' like this place is a first world country! Nor is it about what you contribute (or imagine you do) to thailand!..

No matter what news worthy thingz come up about how much foreigners married to thaiz from one buffalo villages in Nakhon Nowhere contribute to the well being of these people. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you support all the thai in-lawz and out-lawz in your "extended thai family" along with their hare brained get rich slow (aka; never get rich) schemes!

Honestly, these people (that would be the thaiz) don't give two shites if you have a thai wife and a herd of half-breed kidz. Last time I checked, thaiz and westerners were the same species, so we can procreate freely. Thaiz don't care (or at least normal thaiz don't care) if you've built/paid for a house, bought land (in your wife's name) or what ever you got goin' on here.

Your contribution to thai society as a whole is so small (other than the aforementioned in-lawz/out-lawz) as to be a drop in the proverbial bucket in the grand scheme of thingz.. As far as the "powerz-that-be" are concerned, this country runz on ONE thing; TOURISM... Period, full stop, end of story...

We (that would be almost ALL foreigners living here) just don't count, just don't matter, just don't figure into the equation.

My advice, get OFF your high whore, err high horse and realize you're just another white guy here doin' what ever you need to, to get by..

The only thing I'll agree on is; $25K US (+/-) is chump change to garner a "yearly extension of stay" IF you're over 50! Which is to say, you get "permission to live here for another year". Next year who knowz where the "bar" will be? It's anyone's guess.

Sheesh. . . Don't over estimate your own self-importance! That has been the downfall of more foreigners than I have fingerz and toez to count on, and last time I checked I still have 'em all.(so that would be twenty, I think)..

Remember, DON'T hate the messenger; hate the message!

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Tod, you wrote a lot but you had very little to say.