Sorry Terry don't follow, fireman, cops, and until Jeff Kennet brought in private prisons, everyone was on a years served, pension schemes.
You only need a letter from the fireman's pension scheme, job done.
Jim
Sorry Terry don't follow, fireman, cops, and until Jeff Kennet brought in private prisons, everyone was on a years served, pension schemes.
You only need a letter from the fireman's pension scheme, job done.
Jim
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Jim, I don't need shit mate,
I'm filling out the Stat Dec declaring I'm cashed up.
Forget about my pension fund, means fok all regards what I'm going to do.
Originally Posted by thaimeme
Probably pictures too!
Stop press:
Terry has now changed his mind and is going for the marriage visa instead.
Tod has told him that the Katoey he is co- habiting with qualifies as a wife.
All that is required is a letter from Aus embassy and a photo of the lovers together with Terry handing the Katoey some folding stuff.
Should make a good photo thread.
I will come back from Perth with my nice clean 90 Day single Entry Visa, type Non " O ", based on Retirement.
60 days later I will go to the Aussy Embassy in Bangkok and fill in the Stat Dec declaring I meet the financial requirements for a Retirement Visa.
The embassy will sign it and I will sling them 600 Baht.
Next day I will front up at Chaeng Wattana with the Stat Dec and begin the process for the Retirement Visa.
At the same time I will get a Multi entry Permit so I can continue to indulge my passion for traveling .
At no time will I show a letter declaring 800 K seasoned in my bank and at no time will I be asked to show 65 k monthly pension or a combination of both.
The Stat Dec will trump these requirements simply because I gained the Non " O " in Perth and I am an Australian citizen.
Being an Australian citizen means my Embassy does not need to see physical proof I actually have the money available.
Watch this space.
New thread coming soon.
Jeff my skeptical friend,
The 60 days will be up 31 December so I will be fronting up first week in January.
I will photograph every step of the process, even the shitter and the authorizing Immigration officers arsehole .
Be a good thread that one, especially for Butters.
What do you reckon Jeff,
Want to put some money on this.
I say I will walk out of Chaeng Wattana with a nice Retirement Visa without producing a Bank letter declaring I have the 800 K in their bank.
Lets go Jeff.
Anyone else in for a crack ?
Phuketrichard maybe.
Too much thought and angst towards a simple process that everyone has been doing forever....in one form or another.
Get over yourself, Tel....
Says the quintessential "I'm so tuned into Thailand" boring ass....do us a favor and post another picture....Originally Posted by thaimeme
Not quite true that Jeff,
Everyone knows about the banked money route { 800 k in the bank } but many are not aware of the Stat Dec route available to a US citizen or Australian citizen if they obtain the Non " O " outside of Thailand.
This is whole point of my posts and its taken a while to get it dialed in thanks to Toddaniels.
I had never heard of this up until 4 weeks ago.
So where is your money Jeff ?
Get it right, you will NOT get a retirement VISA at Chaeng Wattana
you will most likely get a 1 year EXTENSION based on Retirement.
Better learn the words
They might ask how you get your money so its always nice to have thai bank book with something in it
PLEASE we dont need photos
Anyone that ever did some research anywhere about the 1 year extensions would have known there are
THREE ways to get it.
Letter is one an its for anyone not just those form the states or OZ.
Mate, The more you post on this subject the more you show yourself up as not knowing exactly what goes on. Better for you to just STFU.
Firstly, you are correct, I will get a one year extension based on Retirement, not a retirement Visa. My bad wording.
Secondly, they will not ask me for a bank book, I will have the stat Dec.
If I did not have the Stat Dec I would have a letter from my Bank declaring my funds.
This is what they need, not a Bank book.
Yes, anyone can use the Letter from their Embassy but If they are not Australian or American they will more than likely need to show proof of funds to their Embassy.
I will not need to do this.
Get your shit sorted and learn to read the posts properly before mouthing off.
Together with your bank book..Originally Posted by terry57
The bank letter only confirms the current balance and does not tell anything about how long time the money has been there.
So, bank book in order for Immigration to be able to check the seasoning.
and that is why it is a loop hole for the citizens of those two countries.Originally Posted by terry57
No loop hole, just something agreed between the 3 countries government and respected by the Thai Immigration department because its the Thai law.Originally Posted by lom
You might want to investigate if this is reciprocated by the USA and Australian Immigration Departments.
So, Terry, you are going down the route of your Consulate letter confirming monthly income? Easiest way, cobber, especially if your consulate is the same as the septics who don't show anything but simply affirm whatever figure comes into their head.
Typical the chickenheads haven't sussed it out yet.
From TodSome embassy's require the applicant to show proof, pension statements of the number they put on the letter. The US an the Oz embassies do not require this.Who's right here? I've always understood that only Americans get the perk of not having to show money in the bank.Originally Posted by thegent
http://www.apply-thai-visa.com/thail...ment-visa.htmlThe UK and Australian embassies are more likely to review income sources. (Note: you will still have to show a "reasonable" amount in a Thai bank account, probably at least 200,000 baht.)
Last edited by Pragmatic; 30-08-2014 at 07:48 AM.
The same sum I had to show in 2006 to obtain a 'Support of a Thai Child' extention. Rules at the time stated NO money to be shown. But this is Thailand.(Note: you will still have to show a "reasonable" amount in a Thai bank account, probably at least 200,000 baht.)
http://www.thaivisa.com/extensionsex...f-a-child.html
OHHH veyyyyyyy
MY shit is much more together than yours as i have been here long enough to know what is true an correct while ur.....
As to the letter from the Thai bank, it also need be backed up by the bank book with copies of every page submitted. This is how they see if its been seasoned long enough an trust me they check!!
The Gent has affirmed what toddaniels has said,
Its been said a thousand times over that only American and Australian citisens can obtain a Stat Dec from their Embassies declaring proof of income with out showing the embassy they actually have the money.
It is not a loop hole as some have suggested, its Thai Immigration Law.
Further more I have visited the Australian Embassy to confirm that they will issue me the Stat Dec without them needing physical proof I have the money.
They have reassured me they will do it.
Further more Toddaniels who works in the game has told us plenty of times that he has used this method many times assisting Australians and Americans to obtain the Retirement extension using only the Stat Declaration. No proof of income was needed.
Jesus, If some of you guys do not believe information forwarded to you by a person who actually works in the game who do you believe. ?
Surely not people posting on this thread who are not experts on Thai immigration such as my self, thegent, phuketrichard and others.
I'm only trying to understand the differences in the system being guided by someone who does it for a living.
I reconfirmed it by visiting the Australian Embassy which is only 10 minutes from my front door.
All good so far, Tods information has been credible and spot on.
I'll do the picture thread and put this story to bed once and for all.
People who are not aware that Australian and US citizens can go down the stat Dec route without needing to produce evidence of funds available seem to be in denial that this is a legitimate way of gaining the Retirement extention.
I can well understand that.
If they have just transferred 800 K over to Thailand for no good reason except to supposedly meet Immigration Retirement rules and their money is dying in a Thai bank account producing pathetic interest they will not be happy campers.
Got to remember, these letters are legal documents, making a false declaration carries jail time in your home country.
Also declaring income you don't have may get the tax mans interest.
Terry has the money, so he's OK, but if you don't, it could come back to bite you.
and you think this is written as an exception in the immigration law?Originally Posted by terry57
It works, either because immigration are not aware of how easily these two countries issues the Stat Dec without checking or because immigration has decided to let it pass.
There is no exception in the immigration low for any countries citizen regarding the requirement to actually have the required fund.
It is therefore a loophole that can be closed whenever they find it or whenever they want to close it.
That the Aussie embassy says they can not guarantee their Stat Dec will be accepted is just a confirmation of the above.
Last edited by lom; 30-08-2014 at 12:42 PM.
Just for example;
Phuket realized it was a loop hole over a year ago an closed it, No longer can you just give them the letter and we need to provide proof of the income we state on the us letter ( I use the letter from SS) and i think there are others that require proof as well.
Note; the us Notarized letter does not certify that you have the income, ONLY that it is your signature on the statement.
Terry,
just cause someone makes a living at holding peoples hands ( those that cant do something so simply on their own) )
does not mean they know it all OR about things at other immigration offices.
I don't think he did. 'Thegent' said "if".Originally Posted by terry57
Originally Posted by thegent
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