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    7 Warning Signs

    It's coming soon.

    Discuss.....
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    http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/7-maj...warnings-47579

    As soon as we see the likelihood of major bankruptcies and defaults, we don’t wait around. We warn you immediately.

    We know you need time to get your money out of danger. And we also know that financial disasters don’t obey any particular clock.

    They can strike suddenly — especially in the stock and bond markets, where investors often start selling in anticipation of the troubles to come.

    That’s why we specifically warned our readers about …

    • The failure of Bear Stearns 102 days ahead of time (Money and Markets of December 3, 2007) …

    • The failure of Lehman Brothers 182 days ahead of time (Money and Markets of December 3, 2007 and March 17, 2008) …

    • The near-failure of Citigroup 110 days before (Money and Markets of August 11, 2008) …

    • The failure of Washington Mutual 51 days before (Money and Markets of August 11, 2008), with advance warnings also issued many months earlier (Safe Money Report of March 2007 and June 2008) …

    • The demise of Fannie Mae four years before it collapsed (Money and Markets of September 24, 2004), plus …

    • The failure of nearly every bank and insurance company that has occurred since Weiss Ratings began rating them decades ago.

    Now, the time has come to issue new advance warnings — some of the most important in the 40-year history of my company.

    My new warnings are mostly focused on Europe. But as I’ll explain below, they’re bound to have a life-changing impact on nearly all investors in the U.S. and around the globe.

    Warning #1
    Greece will default very soon.

    Banks and other investors who hold Greek notes and bonds have already seen massive losses in their market value — over 50% on 2-year notes and even more on other issues.

    Until now, European authorities have turned a blind eye as their largest banks continued to carry these toxic assets on their books at full value — as if they were the best, most pristine assets in the world … as if the sovereign debt crisis never happened!

    But now, European authorities are finally conceding that the banks must “partake in any solution of the crisis.”

    In other words, the banks must bite the bullet and take some big hits in their Greek loans. They must officially recognize at least some portion of their losses.

    Conclusion: Whether the banks accept this “solution” voluntarily or not, it will mean Greece is in DEFAULT!

    Warning #2
    The contagion of fear will spread.

    Anyone who thinks global investors will turn a blind eye to the Greek default is in for a big shock.

    Greece is not a small, third-world country. It’s a member of the European Union and part of the euro zone. It has over 328 billion euros in debt, more than Ireland and Portugal combined.

    Moreover, Greece is not alone, and investors know it. Investors will automatically assume — with good reason — that if one major Western government can default, so can others. And with that assumption, they will refuse to lend any more money to highly indebted governments. Or they will demand outrageously high yields.

    Warning #3
    European megabanks will collapse.

    Some of Europe’s largest banks will collapse under the weight of defaulting sovereign debts and in the wake of mass withdrawals.

    Spain’s banks are especially vulnerable, swimming in a cesspool of bad mortgages left behind from that country’s giant housing bubble and bust.

    In fact, this year, the European Banking Authority ran stress tests on the largest banks in Europe; and among the eight banks that failed the test, five were Spanish. Their names:

    •Caixa Catalunya
    •Unnim
    •Caja de Ahorros del Mediterráneo
    •Grupo Caja 3
    •Banco Pastor
    Major French banks are bigger and in no less trouble. They barely passed the stress tests. And that was DESPITE the fact that they were allowed to cheat — not booking a penny of their losses on loans to Greece, Portugal or Ireland. According to Bankers Almanac, on a consolidated basis …

    • BNP Paribas has $2.7 trillion in assets, making it the largest in the world …

    • Crédit Agricole has $2.1 trillion and is the world’s fourth-largest bank, and …

    • Société Générale has $1.5 trillion.

    The total assets of these three French banks alone are greater than the total assets of the banking units of JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup.

    All three are drowning in bad loans to PIIGS countries. All three are in danger, in my view.

    But there’s an even more imminent threat: mass withdrawals!

    You see, banks in the euro zone get less than 35% of their funds from deposits, according to Bloomberg data. Instead, they rely far more heavily on what’s called “wholesale funding” — money borrowed from other banks and institutions.

    In other words, they’re hooked on HOT MONEY!

    That’s the kind of money that is quickly withdrawn at the first sign of trouble. And that’s also the same kind of money that caused mass bank runs in the U.S. three years ago — runs that doomed big U.S. banks like Washington Mutual, while nearly sinking giants like Citigroup and Bank of America.

    Big European banks are especially vulnerable because they rely on hot money far more than U.S. banks. And many appear to be suffering big runs at this very moment.

    This is why the European Central Bank rushed to the rescue last week with 40 billion euros in emergency loans for banks suffering withdrawals. But 40 billion is a drop in the bucket, barely covering ONE CENT for each dollar of PIIGS’ debts outstanding.

    In the weeks ahead, will governments stand idly by while their biggest banks collapse? Initially, no, which leads me to …

    Warning #4
    European governments will suffer a
    cascade of new credit rating downgrades.

    The richest governments of the European Union — France and Germany — will scramble to rescue their failing banks, and so, global markets may breathe a temporary sigh of relief.

    But recent history proves that the entire concept of bank bailouts is seriously flawed because of the following, now-obvious sequence of events:

    • In their zeal to save the banks and the economy, the governments gut their own fiscal balance.

    • They suffer big downgrades, losing their stellar credit ratings.

    • And as soon as they have to borrow more money, they must pay through the nose with far higher interest rates.

    In other words, in their zeal to lift banks up from the brink of failure, the governments themselves are dragged down into the abyss.

    Case in point: Last week, we learned that Dexia, a Franco-Belgian megabank, is in distress. It’s smaller than the giant French banks in trouble. But its assets are still 1.5 times the size of Belgium’s ENTIRE economy!

    What happens if the government of Belgium tries to help rescue the bank? It will surely lose its still-good credit rating.

    Indeed, late Friday, Moody’s announced it’s ALREADY putting Belgium on review for a downgrade just based on the POSSIBLITY it may have to bail out banks like Dexia.

    Moody’s specifically states that a key reason Belgium is on the ratings’ chopping block is “the impact on the already pressured balanced sheet of the government of additional bank support measures which are likely to be needed.”

    And the prospect of big bank bailouts is also a key reason other major PIIGS countries have suffered massive downgrades in recent days. (More on this in a moment.)

    Warning #5

    Spain and Italy will be next to face
    default on their massive debts.

    Spain and Italy have nearly $3.4 trillion in debt, or about 10 times more than Greece.

    But with their borrowing costs surging and their big banks failing, they will be unable to borrow enough new money to pay off old debts coming due.

    Result: Spain and Italy will also risk default.

    Warning #6

    Global debt markets will
    suffer a critical meltdown.

    In anticipation of a default by a country as large as Spain or Italy, nearly all debt markets in the world will freeze, as investors withdraw in panic.

    This panic will not only crush the borrowing power of the PIIGS countries, hastening their default … but it will also threaten to melt down the bond markets of countries like France, Germany, Japan, the U.K. and the U.S. That could mean sharply higher interest rates and, ultimately, the inability to borrow at almost any cost.

    Warning #7

    The vicious cycle of sovereign debt defaults and
    bank failures will lead to a global depression.

    Sovereign debt defaults will trigger more bank failures. More bank failures, in turn, will precipitate more sovereign debt defaults.

    This vicious cycle will cut off the flow of credit to businesses and households, sink the global economy into a depression, and perpetuate the vicious cycle.

    Ultimately, we will see an extended period of great economic hardship for billions of people on every continent.

    Skeptical?

    If so, I don’t blame you, and I assume you have your reasons. Yet there are far stronger reasons to be skeptical of all those who believe we can easily avoid disaster …

    Reason #1
    Even the highest authorities
    have admitted the dangers.
    U.S. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner warns of “cascading defaults,” “bank runs,” and “catastrophic risk.”

    The International Monetary Fund says “the global economy is in a dangerous new phase.”

    World Bank President Robert Zoellick warns that Europe, Japan, and the U.S. are in such danger, they’re threatening to “drag down not only themselves, but the global economy.”

    And never forget: These statements are all from leaders who want to CALM financial markets! Imagine what they’d be saying if they were out of office and speaking freely!

    Clearly, the crisis has now progressed far beyond the deniability stage.


    Reason #2

    The major credit rating agencies have
    finally (and belatedly) begun to
    recognize the dangers.
    Here are just a few of the most recent examples:

    This past Friday, October 6, Fitch downgraded Spain and Italy.

    Fitch cited the severity of the European debt crisis coupled with an increasingly recessionary atmosphere that can only impair governments’ abilities to come to the aid of their faltering economies.

    On Spain, Fitch talked about the still sizeable structural budget deficit, high level of net external debt, and the fragility of the economic recovery as the process of deleveraging and rebalancing continues render the country especially vulnerable to such an external shock.

    For Italy, Fitch also stressed the “high public debt and tax burden; an inefficient public sector; barriers to competition in product markets and services; inflexible labor market; and a pronounced north-south divide.”

    Most alarmingly, Fitch says it has concerns about “the risk that a further worsening of the euro-zone debt crisis and volatility in the value of Italian government bonds will further erode confidence in the banking system.

    “In such a scenario,” Fitch continues, “concerns about the banks would start to weigh on the sovereign credit profile as a contingent liability and a vicious cycle of deteriorating sovereign and bank credit quality could emerge.”

    The day before, on October 6, Moody’s downgraded 12 U.K. financial institutions.

    The reasons? Similar to those cited for its earlier downgrades of major U.S. banks:

    Moody’s believes that the U.K. government is now more likely to allow smaller institutions to fail if they become financially troubled … and that even U.K.’s larger banks will suffer a reduction in the government’s support.

    In other words, even if big banks fail, the government is likely to dish out less cash and more tough love.

    On Wednesday, October 5, Moody’s downgraded Italy by three notches in one fell swoop.

    Moody’s says Italy’s ability to tap into sovereign debt markets may be constrained by the “uncertain market environment and the risk of further deterioration in investor sentiment.”

    Alarmingly, writes IHS Global Insight, “the rating agency also warned of further downgrades should any long-term uncertainty arise over the availability of external sources of liquidity support to Italy.”

    All told, including the downgrades of Citigroup and Bank of America announced the week before, we calculate that the countries and institutions downgraded in the last 10 days alone total at least $7.3 trillion in debts outstanding (see chart below).

    Countries and Institutions Downgraded in
    Past 10 Days Alone Have at Least
    $7.3 Trillion in Total Debts Outstanding

    Reason #3

    The era of big bank bailouts is over!

    The facts are simple:

    • Not even the richest countries of Europe could possibly afford to bail out their biggest banks. And conversely …

    • Not even the richest banks of Europe could possibly afford to finance the bulging deficits of their sovereign governments.

    Yet, right now, they are leaning on each other to avoid failing. European banks are holding on to the bad debts of sinking European governments. And, at the same time, European governments are trying to find ways to keep the banks afloat.

    But this entire structure is based on nothing more than a pack of legalized lies: Banks are allowed to lie about the value of their loans to PIIGS countries, their capital and their solvency. And governments lie about how much it would really cost to save the insolvent banks.

    Solemn promises are made. Paper is shifted back and forth. But it’s no better than rearranging chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

    This Impacts You No Matter Where You Live

    If you’re a U.S. investor, you may think you’re better off simply because the downgrade of the U.S. did not precipitate the feared collapse in U.S. Treasury securities. But that’s merely due to a temporary flight to quality.

    Or if you’re living in a country that’s growing nicely and in good shape financially, you may think you’re even more immune to Europe’s crisis.

    But the European Union has the largest economy and the largest banks on Earth. It would be vastly unreasonable to think that Europe could fall and leave any other region standing.

    The market contagion ALONE would be enough to cause a global meltdown, destroying trillions of dollars in wealth in bonds, stocks and real estate. The big blows to corporate profits, trade and trust would merely compound those losses.

    So my recommendations are unchanged:

    • Get all or most of your money out of danger immediately. (To look up the relative strength or weakness of your bank, credit union, insurance company, ETF, stock or mutual fund, sign up for www.WeissWatchdog.com.)

    • For any vulnerable assets you may still own, buy protective hedges — inverse investments specifically designed to rise when asset values fall.

    • For funds you can afford to risk, go for potentially windfall profits, using those same inverse investments.

    And above all, stay safe!

    Dr. Weiss founded Weiss Research in 1971 and has dedicated the past 40 years to helping millions of average investors find truly safe havens and investments. He is president of Weiss Ratings, the nation’s leading independent rating agency accepting no fees from rated companies. And he is the chairman of the Sound Dollar Committee
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    Interesting. Most people aren't paying any attention to this or to the bigger issues in general. It's not easy to follow things these days with our lives being filled with so many other things that occupy or time. It's not easy at all. If all this turns out to be true, most people will actually be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Interesting. Most people aren't paying any attention to this or to the bigger issues in general. It's not easy to follow things these days with our lives being filled with so many other things that occupy or time. It's not easy at all. If all this turns out to be true, most people will actually be surprised.
    That's because most exist in an illusional daze of fancy.

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    Solemn promises are made. Paper is shifted back and forth. But it’s no better than rearranging chairs on the deck of the Titanic.
    Sliding inevitably into the abyss of a dark epoch.

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    It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine (Song)

    On a serious note, all I can do is sit back and watch. I am not a money man

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    Wondering...
    How much of the populations could get on [comfortably] with a cash-less existence?

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    We may soon start to find out..

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    Sobering stuff. It's a proverbial house of cards- everyone is shoring each other up with a combination of lax accounting for banks, printing money for governments, plus the EU buying crappy Greek debt for some reason, for fear that if one card collapses it will bring the whole house down.

    Why couldn't Greece have been summarily dismissed from the Eurozone, and those institutions and individuals holding it's Debt taken it on the chin, which is what happens in the real world when you make a bad investment? I fail to see why, in the modern era, we are consistently expected to bail out banks for their own stupid lending practises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I fail to see why
    Who employs ex-politicians?

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    Better to just tell these leaches credit rating agencies to fcuck off, and make it a criminal offence to keep preaching this sort of agenda ridden message

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    Greece will default very soon.
    that's a given, but it's already priced in the market and part of the consensus, so not a negative surprise. Markets might suffer for a few days or weeks though.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    Greece is not a small, third-world country. It’s a member of the European Union and part of the euro zone. It has over 328 billion euros in debt, more than Ireland and Portugal combined.
    oh please !!! probably written by some clueless American financial journalist trying to make his story more than it is. The total debt is quite small, easy to absorb.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    European megabanks will collapse.
    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    •Caixa Catalunya
    •Unnim
    •Caja de Ahorros del Mediterráneo
    •Grupo Caja 3
    •Banco Pastor
    these are not mega Euro banks, more like shitty Spanish regional banks, and yes they are in trouble, but not the end of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    • BNP Paribas has $2.7 trillion in assets, making it the largest in the world …

    • Crédit Agricole has $2.1 trillion and is the world’s fourth-largest bank, and …

    • Société Générale has $1.5 trillion.
    this actually contradict their other predictions, with so much assets they can easily absorb the Greece debt

    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    European governments will suffer a
    cascade of new credit rating downgrades.
    Sovereign credit ratings means nothing, see the US case, it's the downgrade of the debt securities of local treasuries that is more important. Since it's not going to happen, except for Greece, and again not all debt issues, the long term outlook is simply an opinion by rating agencies. For the record, US Treasuries have not been downgraded, and can't be downgraded, since they are not rated in the first place and are assumed to be AAA. For most European debt issues, the securities are still highly rated and haven't been subject of an agency downgrade (except for Greece issues). Even the UK debt issues are still rated AA or above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Why couldn't Greece have been summarily dismissed from the Eurozone, and those institutions and individuals holding it's Debt taken it on the chin
    And Greece should have never been allowed in the European Union in the first place.

    Greece cooked the books to enter the EU, and the EU knew Greek's books were cooked, but let them in anyway.

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    Quite correct. Why are we expected to feel sorry for them? Pay for them?
    You flagrantly, deliberately and repeatedly break the rules of a 'club', and you're out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    Greece cooked the books to enter the EU
    Along with the International banks who loaned them money to facilitate the default and then took out CDS's to cover their own arses. Win when the deal was signed, win when the shit hit the fan.

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    When I see how easy the greek protestors set their policemen on fire, I worry about that place beyond account books. Just seems a bit too much like the Balkans. Has Greece ever actually had any sort of a decent economy? The place seems like a shithole with a lot of ancient ruins kinda like Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    When I see how easy the greek protestors set their policemen on fire, I worry about that place beyond account books. Just seems a bit too much like the Balkans. Has Greece ever actually had any sort of a decent economy? The place seems like a shithole with a lot of ancient ruins kinda like Thailand.
    I'm certainly no expert and don't claim to be knowledgeable, but I did study in Athens and traveled to different regions of Greece.

    Lots of good times: good food, laughter and drink.

    Time is flexible. Nice long naps in the lunch hour (and I think this is good).

    As for an efficient and organized economy where people have to put in to get the (formerly) nice retirement bennies?

    No.

    Rules are very flexible in all areas of life.

    It's a nice place if you have money. But isn't that true anywhere in the world? Women are beautiful, food was good. Eat late, have fun, and lots of islands to go to.

    Was the economy every good? No.

    Pervasive corruption: from doctors demanding bribes to deliver healthy babies to the politicians, and other realms of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Why couldn't Greece have been summarily dismissed from the Eurozone, and those institutions and individuals holding it's Debt taken it on the chin
    And Greece should have never been allowed in the European Union in the first place.

    Greece cooked the books to enter the EU, and the EU knew Greek's books were cooked, but let them in anyway.
    One word: Olympics


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    Greek represents the western world's roots. All the great thinkers there couldn't seem to keep their dream going though. They've got good salads(if those salads actually have anything to do with Greece) and as barbaro mentioned their women ain't too bad looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Greek represents the western world's roots. All the great thinkers there couldn't seem to keep their dream going though. They've got good salads(if those salads actually have anything to do with Greece) and as barbaro mentioned their women ain't too bad looking.
    And as I was told in classes in Athens Hampsha, the Greek thinkers and builders of of the city-state and Greek culture of that high time were ethnically different than the current Greeks.

    Meaning, today's Greek ain't the seem.

    At least that was what the famous professor said, who was a Greek citizen.

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    Seems to be true in a lot of our modern societies, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Seems to be true in a lot of our modern societies, too.
    Yes. Over hundreds and thousands of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Greek represents the western world's roots. All the great thinkers there couldn't seem to keep their dream going though. They've got good salads(if those salads actually have anything to do with Greece) and as barbaro mentioned their women ain't too bad looking.
    And as I was told in classes in Athens Hampsha, the Greek thinkers and builders of of the city-state and Greek culture of that high time were ethnically different than the current Greeks.

    Meaning, today's Greek ain't the seem.

    At least that was what the famous professor said, who was a Greek citizen.
    Not a professor of genetics then. Perhaps playing semantics with the word "ethnicity", being a Greek word meaning something slightly different from what it means in English. If he was an immigrant into Greece, he'd have an obvious agenda.
    Anyway, a professor is just a PhD who has given up research to indulge in schmoozing and managerial activities.

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    Shit. I read right through your post. 'Ethnically' became ethically!! You may be right as well.

    I was referring to the changing in values from the beginning of our modern society to now. At least that's how I see. Society wants us to believe that we have progress, the idea that somehow our societies have been built progressively working toward greater justice and 'love' for all members. Maybe its just the media I get. One human trait is to cover up the truth at all times if it isn't too pretty. What do we really know about the past.

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    A good read....anyone that is not afraid of work will be just fine...a lot of the bullshit economy is going to go away....the something for nothing is quickly passing....

    but it going to be just fine....you might have to do a bit of work....and none of us like that too much....

    the bonus is there will be some great buys for those with ability and forsight...

    nothing new.....not the end of civilation....by a long shot....
    i am just the nowhere man...
    living in the nowhere land...
    forever...

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    Let me add this.
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    Oct. 18, 2011, 12:01 a.m. EDT
    EU bank failures will crash Wall Street — again

    Commentary: 8 warnings for Washington and Occupiers


    By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
    SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — Worst-case scenario’s closing fast: Occupy Wall Street growing. But no political power or allies yet. Feared yes, attacked by GOP proxy tea party. Soon the Occupation will explode into a new American Revolution.

    When? A string of European bank collapses is dead ahead. And like the Arab Spring, they will trigger an economic disaster for American banks.
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    The big picture for global banks

    Andrew Milligan, head of Global Strategy at Standard Life Investments, discusses the implications for banks as European officials try to hammer out a solution to the sovereign debt crisis.

    Yes, coming soon says Martin Weiss in his “7 Major Advance Warnings,” which is “bound to have a life-changing impact on nearly all investors in the U.S. and around the globe.” His new Weiss Ratings warnings are the “most important” in a 40-year career. The stress on Wall Street banks will force them back to Congress for more bailouts.

    Warning eight: No new bailouts. That will push the economy into a deep recession.

    EU bank failures will crash Wall Street

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