Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
HAHA! You can speculate all you like but you do not know. When was the last time you split wood or caught a fish?
Well, now that you mention it Jeremiah Johnston, I cut and split wood out back here, when the need arises....and I catch the odd fish although it's not quite the same as the North West coast that I was used to. The fish here pretty much give themselves up. We stocked our pond with several thousand of them so it's not exactly sport fishing.....but if your revolution takes off, at least we'll have protein eh?.

You do realize that only small numbers of people could ever sustain themselves in this new world order of yours. There are people living up north of Whistler in cabins, with little turbines being driven by mountain creeks and wood stoves to heat their shacks.

Totally crazy fuckers that just can't make it in the city and could never hold down a job or anything that normal folks do. They manage OK, but if you had to move the entire population of Vancouver up there at short notice, there might be a bit of a breakdown in the new order....

Get real Snubbie. It's not going to happen so stop talking bollocks and living in a state of chronic anxiety over big oil and the nice Koch family. I remember guys just like you way back in the early 70ies quoting experts who were assuring us that the oil was running out. Actually it was not running out at all; it's just the OPEC guys shut the flow off to do a bit of arm twisting for a while.

I remember only too well the nonsense that was being talked and the panic that was abroad amongst the chronically anxious. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Every time there is an economic downturn, the same stuff emerges over and over. When the economy recovers, it's all relegated to the trash bin again.

That was over 40 years ago, and now, here we are with the place swimming in oil and the commodities markets in free-fall because there is far more product that buyers now. Of course that will change once again when the supply/demand balance is restored. It's just a matter of how long it takes.

When old Thoreau talked about men living in their state of quiet desperation, he must have had all the Snubbies of the world in mind...... That was a long time ago.... but nothing much has really changed in that regard..

Here's another little tid-bit from Thoreau that would apply to many on TD:

"How vain it is to sit down to write when you have not stood up to live."



Quite an interesting fellow was Thoreau, although he did talk quite a lot of bollocks in between his notable quotes....