Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
you really have no clue do you.
Best to read and understand your links before you post them, eh.
Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
This year's winter Antarctic sea ice maximum extent (was) about 193,000 square miles more than its average maximum extent for the last three decades.
Sounds a lot, doesn't it. That must absolutely prove that only a faggy euro-weenie would drive a Prius.
Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
the extent of the ice cover of the Arctic Ocean in September 2012 was 1.32 million square miles below the average September extent from 1979 to 2000
Oh dear. And actually, what matters more in the Antarctic is land ice, not sea ice, and estimates of the decline there are 100-300 Gt/year. In the unlikely event that you actually want to know about this, the blog Dosbat carries a lot of material related to changes in sea ice.

Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
Oii Stalker boy - put up some facts, or fuck off.
Ha ha! Coming from someone whose idea of refuting an astonishingly solid scientific theory is foot-stamping, hyperventilating and a torrent of badly photoshopped cartoons of a politician, that's more than a little hypocritical. OK, Professor, answer this:

You've already said that the earth is warming. Those who aren't delusional monomaniacs accept that this is because levels of greenhouse gases are rising and, being greenhouse gases, this causes higher temperatures. If you think that the world is warming and this is not due to humans, you have a problem. How do you explain this? As far as I see it, these are your main choices:

1. Despite appearances to the contrary, levels of CO2, N2O, CH4, CFCs, HCFCs, and so on aren't rising and the warming is caused by other factors. (Tricky because anyone can check what the levels of these gases are and even the craziest anti-science nutjob doesn't deny that their concentrations are increasing.)

2. Levels of greenhouse gases are rising but, again, despite all scientific knowledge pointing in exactly the opposite direction, these gases don't actually have a greenhouse effect and warming is caused by other factors. (Tricky because if CO2 weren't a greenhouse gas we'd all freeze to death.)

3. Levels of greenhouse gases are rising, greenhouse gases do have a greenhouse effect but this effect is being suppressed by some mysterious cause and the warming is being caused by a second, unknown factor. (Tricky because I don't know of anything that fits the bill - particulate pollution has a negative forcing and is taking about half a degree of warming off at the moment but that's retarding, not stopping warming and in any case, it doesn't mean that we're not causing warming - it means that the waste products of industrial civilization are both causing warming and reducing the severity of that warming, which is not what you seem to be claiming.)

So, what's going on?