Thread: 9/11 truth

Originally Posted by ENT

Maybe this that you are reading now is an illusion/doctored version of what I'm actually posting!

Oops we got find out! Moderators were forced to secretly delete any info which points towards the truth, noone but the posters themselves still sees the original text, so they won't complain.

As most of the public worldwidenet, this site is also controlled by a US agency whose name I am not at liberty to disclose.

NASA

If there was a conspiracy to create a conspiracy that something crashed into the Pentagon then why not have 'it' 'crash' into the White House or Capital?

As an American I couldn't give two shits if an asteroid crashed into the Pengaton and pushed it 500 miles into the earth's interior. It's not a symbol of anything to most Americans. Nobody really cares about the Pentagon. Whoopee doo if something crashes into it.

Had the White House, Capital, Washington/Lincoln Memorials, or Smithsonian been the target I think it would have achieved much more of a dramatic rise out of the American people. If I was in charge of a secret conspiracy that's the route I would have gone. Why make up a story about a government building most people could care less about? When the news on 9-11 broke the fact that the Pentagon got hit mattered very little to everyone I talked about. It's just a non-issue and it's doesn't make people warm and fuzzy inside like the really important landmarks would.

Seems like farting in a typhoon would be more productive than worrying about what happened at the Pentagon. I doubt seriously the Pentagon 'attack' matter to most people since the WTCs were 'hit.'

The pentagon can get away with a cover up far better than the Lincoln Memorial

The big rise was achieved at the TC towers.

The pentagon was a red herring.

Why not 'hijack' a plane, kill everyone aboard, and crash it into the WH/etc?

They could have led us to war against anyone they wanted if they did that.

Your boss would have lost his cushy mansion, and a listed national treasure, he never would have been forgiven for it.

The British burned it down; surely the current occupant (who spends a good deal of time away from it anyways) wouldn't have batted an eye if it meant near universal support for attacking some 'enemy.'

US can't go to war against anyone it wants, it isn't that poweful on its own and hasn't got the sustained discipline in the troops and cohesion of command to achieve it's objective rapidly and efficiently. Besides, it takes a massive budget to make war and now US can't afford it.

The whole point of the TC false flag operation was to generate national (and international) support for a war on Iraq to gain access to whole Caspian oil basin, consolidating the Afghan push re. the oil pipeline being laid there from the Caspian field to the Arabian Gulf.

Britain's now jacking out of the deal as it pushes ahead with other energy systems and methane hydrate deposits now opening up along continental margins.

Originally Posted by surasak

Instead of worrying about what crashed into the Pentagon why aren't we worrying about the massive failure (or complacency) that led to this in the first place? I believe that makes better conspiracy theory fodder than arguing over something metallic that smashed into something concrete.

You mean the the eight years of the the Clinton presidency systematically undermining national defense and security?

I worked for a small airline in AK. I had jump-seat privileges on most of the major air carriers. Which meant I could sit in the cockpit. The pilots didn't really know me and I always carried a leatherman "wave" which in the wrong hands could be a nasty weapon. I travelled a lot like that.
When 9/11 happened one of my first thoughts was why it hadn't happened sooner.
As a nation we were incredibly naive about how lax the airport security was.
As we were incredibly naive about the nature of the jihadist.
I think we can also blame Carter and Reagan for not taking aggressive action in Tehran and Beirut when it was necessary.

If the idea is to point fingers at the past to excuse the failures of the present then don't forget that the problem with Iran started in 1953. Maybe if we hadn't overthrown a popular government with one that persecuted the Iranian people then the seeds of Islamic discontent would never have been sown.

Shortsighted because we didn't give a damn about democracy. We only wanted the oil. Sounds vaguely familiar.

Having travelled as much as I have in the U.S. I don't see airports as being a particularly large threat. I can think of countless other ways to bring America to its knees without having to fly a single airplane.

We should be grateful that we've been so lucky as to not have home grown terrorist groups (if Tim McVeigh can bring down a Federal building imagine what real organization could achieve); if the Indians ever get pissed off at what we've done we're screwed.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

When 9/11 happened one of my first thoughts was why it hadn't happened sooner.

one of my first thoughts was which members of the Government are behind this then?.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

When 9/11 happened one of my first thoughts was why it hadn't happened sooner.

one of my first thoughts was which members of the Government are behind this then?.

Do you mean the Welsh government?

Rodri

Realistically it was those who had most to gain from it.

Chief candidates are Bush and his oil cartel and the armaments industry.

Is there anyone reading this thread able to refute the argument that I have so far outlined?

If so, please elaborate upon your points of difference.

There seems to be a cogent paucity of support in contention to the view that the whole 9/11 scenario was a secretively designed operation whose purpose was to instill confusion and division in the populace of America, and by extension, of the world, so as to create a false justification, reason and purpose to acquire through arrogation, the property of another nation.

Stick that in yer pipe an' smoke it ya bleedin' superiority complex ridden bunch of power sychophants, hidin' behind the emotional mother's skirts of your patriotic affiliations!

Go on, give us a go!

Any brains out there amongst you lot?

HA!

Further to above post, there's NO verifiable evidence of a Pentagon "plane" crash.

Interesting, eh, CMN?

I still think it was a truck bomb producing flash and scatter. Such a truck I can describe upon request.

Event was possibly combined with a missile strike. (more references later).

Initial blast/event was definitely combined with ancilliary explosions and fires, some erupting after the purported "crash". Eye witness accounts of this are numerous. (By the way, did anyone notice in the pics of the interior of the Pentagon as firecrew walked through after, that none of the wood work framing between supporting pillars surrounding the purported wreckage of this disastrous explosion and subsequent fire(s) showed any scorch or burn or smoke marks? Fireproof wood, eh?

Immediate removal of all evidence after the "strike" by Pentagon office staff (not by a team of forensic investigators).

See above posts by ENT for related links. More to come.

Seismic records re. 9/11 scenario and their interpretation, a quick guide and interpretation in layman's terms will be posted if asked. Otherwise Google for available results.

"Government is like mushroom farming, keep them in the dark and feed them plenty of shit"....David Langey PM of NZ (deceased).

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the are not remotely interested in constructive examination of the evidence.

I agree.

Originally Posted by ENT

There seems to be a cogent paucity of support in contention to the view that the whole 9/11 scenario was a secretively designed operation whose purpose was to instill confusion and division in the populace of America, and by extension, of the world, so as to create a false justification, reason and purpose to acquire through arrogation, the property of another nation.

you lost me after 'There seems to be a'

very impressive though

Interesting analysis of responses though. You can pick the trols and can I dare say undercovers? Oops!

Slimboyfat,

Interpretation of above quoted statement (in the vernacular):

There's bugerrall anyone can say to prove that the whole setup wasn't a putup to con and rip off some folks.

Originally Posted by ENT

...The whole point of the TC false flag operation was to generate national (and international) support for a war on Iraq to gain access to whole Caspian oil basin, consolidating the Afghan push re. the oil pipeline being laid there from the Caspian field to the Arabian Gulf....

You are getting confused with cause and effect.

Originally Posted by ENT

Reported speed was 350 mph, accelerating before "impact".

Reported speed of what? The plane that you say didn't exist and nobody saw?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ENT

Maybe this that you are reading now is an illusion/doctored version of what I'm actually posting!

Oops we got find out! Moderators were forced to secretly delete any info which points towards the truth, noone but the posters themselves still sees the original text, so they won't complain.

As most of the public worldwidenet, this site is also controlled by a US agency whose name I am not at liberty to disclose.

Me, actually.