Thread: 9/11 truth

J--us there's gremlins at work, the fecky little little things won't leave me keyboard alone.

Dunno about an airliner hitting the Pentagon but something hit it and it wasn't very big. That link I posted (sort of) has got a lot of reasonable views on the scenario.

Looks like another set up involving more than a plane.

If there was a plane, it was a small drone, not a jumbo.

Anyone got onto that skydrifter site yet?

Lots of interesting pics?

Funny how the trees next to the explosion point still got all their leaves on, while in a later pic there's a leafy branch posing on the lawn amid the debris, leaves all firmly attached, nice and fresh looking like.

This must be post #9!

Next will be #10!

Then I can drop another couple of links on the line.

Hello CMN

hello mate.

A match made in heaven...
Nice to witness magic happening on a forum.

That last link was not the same this morning!

Here's another one,

9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon - Above Top Secret Conspiracy Community

I could have sworn that this link was the one on the last url! Never mind.

If you know how to play with them pickyshop thingies, some of these pics and arguments are great!

Good luck!

^
cheers stroll.
good of you ,not to delete the poop.
one might think you weren't taking the thread seriously, but I doubt that.

This is better.

http://home.comcast.net/-skydrifter/pols.htm

Keeps blocking me when I try to lift it off this page.

Can access only via toolbar or google.

Originally Posted by ENT

Keeps blocking me when I try to lift it off this page.

Yes, comcast is also involved in the big plot

Had a look?

http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/pols.htm

Yes, that's the one.

The pics of the debris look nice and clean, don't they?

The debris, not the pics, like.

Try

European911CitizensJury

No seismic evidence exists to support the contention that a plane exploded on impact at the Pentagon. A large aircraft did not impact there.

The other three planes' impacts were seismically recorded, though the one that landed in the paddock could have been a controlled explosion as evidence offered so far states that the black box, housed in the tail. was found 25 ft underground. Strange, as the rest of the plane's debris was piled above it in a heap inside a large crater. the bits should have scattered for some distance around the crater, showing smoke and burn residue.

The largest piece of debris photographed at the Pentagon is clean and does not come from the alleged plane identified to have crashed there.
It's also painted the wrong colour.

I currently study geology and seismic survey and in my experience, if there is even the slightest bang the geophones of a seismometer will record it.
They are so sensitive that when we do a survey a signal is sounded so that when the controlled explosion goes off NOBODY walks, drives or thumps anything around, even talking too loud can create background noise.

Just this one fact, that NO bang was recorded at the Pentagon says it all to me, that there was NOT an aircraft crash there.

Coupled with the photographic evidence of the clean debris after a fire that brought down the whole area to the right of the supposed impact, I can only presume that something other than an aircraft crash occured there.

Interestingly also, is that the seismic record shows a peak seconds prior to to the collapse of each of the Nth and the Sth towers in the NYTC scenario, as well as prior to WTCs 4 and 7 collapse. THe collapses all showed up on seismographs as well.

The thermite, or more likely thermate, mixed with sulphur is wickedly effective stuff for melting any metal. A "friend" of mine left a small amount of it on the bonnet of someone's car one day and the stuff boiled through the bonnet, on down to the block and through it and out the sump , totalling that duy's pride and joy!

So it's easy to understand how the steel cores of the buildings came down.

The pre-planning for the operation was extensive, but not meticulous, because as much as we humans strive for perfection we never hit it, we simply don't, can't anticipate enough.

So cover-ups fail and liars get sprung.

One way to get away with a lie is to tell a BIG lie!
That way it takes a month of Sundays for anyone to pick up every stitch.

'Tis the season of the witch!

Originally Posted by ENT

No seismic evidence exists to support the contention that a plane exploded on impact at the Pentagon. A large aircraft did not impact there...

You have stated what you can't prove or haven't given any evidence to support. Lack of evidence - photographic or seismic - is not evidence.

Since Flight 77 flew into a massive, reinforced concrete structure (the wall of the Pentagon) and was obliterated by it, just how much of a seismic shock do you think should have been generated? In fact, there WAS a weak signal recorded - so your first statement is wrong.

Lots of people think it was a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon!

Do you?

A weak signal does not correspond to a large plane crashing into the ground or building.

The seismic readings when the TC towers were hit are clear spikes, and these hits were a thousand feet above ground level, the shock waves travelling down the stuctures.

The weak signal recorded from the Pentagon could correspond to a controled explosion above groind, clear of the ground.

First reports were of a "booby trapped truck" going off.

One pic from infront of the Pentagon shows a bright white flash or flare-up, similar to a gas explosion. Is it possible that a a truck did blow up, upwards, literally, the explosive shock wave cushioned from the ground by the truck deck, suspension, tyres etc.? This would show as only a minor ruffle on the graph.

I don't even think a cruise missile was used. It too would have caused large shock waves as it hit the grounded structure.

The behaviour of all personell invoved in the aftermath of the Pentagon explosion and fire seems odd, too. No ambulances seen taking out bodies or injured, while the hospital asks for blood donors, 125 Pentagon staff and 64(?) air travellers dead, yet no lists or info published regarding them.
All this going on while heaps of (seeming) Pentagon staff roaming around the site doing what? Certainly not your average disaster control/recovery procedure or scenario.

Bit of a mystery eh? Never mind, truth will out yet!

The green and yellow primer paint on the aircraft parts is not even scorched! Ever seen what happens to paint at even quite low temperatures?

The undercarriage strut in one of the pics is rusted! After a fire? It should have carboned up as it case hardened as it was supposedly an oil fire.

One rather odd eye-witness account was that he heard people crying and yelling as he approached the burning plane wreckage, he was so close he had to be hospitalised for a few hours with in one account cut hands and in another burnt hands. After a smash at 350 mph and a fireball nobody can breath let alone yell and cry.

Bodies in these scenarios tend to be a squashed up lump because of the G-force on impact, one case I saw was where the guy's teeth and lower jaw embedded in his arse. Hard to believe that the body parts pics available are of a high impact crash. Burning, yes, but then no display of crushing.

Beats me how a massive plane engine can punch a hole through a few walls, while the other engine just disappears! Not even a little hole in the wall.

And all the nice clean aluminium scrap raining down like confetti (according to eye-witnesses), but largely to the right side of the explosion. No apparent smoke damage, paint blister on any to be seen. Well directed scatter, pity it all went to one side, special effevts team blew that one!

I'll look further into and post on the seismic reports, just to clarify later.

Cheers.

Oops, I should have read before posting!

Debris scatter to left, not right of the bang!

ah finally someone with a little bit more beef to post about conspiracy theories... cool !!!

Yeah, that's it! It was a movie set!

Originally Posted by ENT

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

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I guess the guy who said he saw a plane fly into the Pentagon was part of the scam, the conspiracy, eh?

You just can't believe anybody these days, can you?