Thread: 9/11 truth

Originally Posted by William

Originally Posted by Niteowl

And seizing on a national tragedy, simply to draw attention to your rant, is worse than dishonest. As an American, I find it personally offensive.

Can I add, as a "non-American", I also find it offensive...

That makes three of us.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

my mind is open.

no, it's not. your mind is made up, based on a couple of documentaries you've seen. it's like me saying I know all about CSI becuase I watched series one!

Originally Posted by RDN

Brilliant Stroller. "No pictures" is your evidence - a lack of any evidence is your evidence.

What a pity you don't have pictures of something else. Oh, I forgot, Big Brother took them all away.

Not 'my' evidence, read my post more carefully. No need to ridicule.

Originally Posted by stroller

...No need to ridicule.

It's so hard not to. It's either that, or - and that hurts.

Originally Posted by William

no, it's not.

really it is william.
i have watched, listened to and read a load of evidence from various sources for the last 5 years.
I know people died.
i would never think to deny that.

I would like to see some evidence that the official story is correct.
something more that the other version is an absolute pile of poo spouted by liberal wako pinko commie loons.
something a bit more substantial.

genuinely would like to see it.

Originally Posted by William

t's like me saying I know all about CSI becuase I watched series one!

no it isn't.
and you know it.

^so, what you're saying then is you accept people died, but not the manner in which they died. Is that correct?

On that basis, we can move forward: did Flight 77 hit the pentagon?

Originally Posted by William

did Flight 77 hit the pentagon?

I thought that was the original question. I am losing the plot here.

Originally Posted by William

^so, what you're saying then is you accept people died, but not the manner in which they died. Is that correct?

yes. but not in a plane that didn't hit the pentagon.

Originally Posted by William

On that basis, we can move forward: did Flight 77 hit the pentagon?

yes.
no.

i don't believe in aliens, well i don't believe they have visited us.
I believe nearly that man might have hit the moon.

i don't believe a plane hit the pentagon through weight of non evidence.
I also believe the wtc 1 and 2 were brought down by explosives.
nothing i have read or seen would suggest otherwise.

^ Say I agree with you, and Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, would you agree that Flight 77 was "downed' that day?

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I also believe the wtc 1 and 2 were brought down by explosives.
nothing i have read or seen would suggest otherwise.

Umm, you haven't seen any footage of planes hitting the towers? Seems like the sort of evidence that would "suggest otherwise".

^
I don't know what happened to it.
nobody has proven where it went.
i seriously don't think it hit the pentagon though.

it really shouldn't require a reverse answer.
it would be very easy to show where it went if they wanted.

it was probably down by the military somewhere

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I don't know what happened to it.
nobody has proven where it went.
i seriously don't think it hit the pentagon though.

it really shouldn't require a reverse answer.
it would be very easy to show where it went if they wanted.

No, you claim it didn't hit the Pentagon, so you must search for evidence, part1 no pics of it at the site, ok. Part2, so where did it go? No records, no sightings, nothing unusual? By the same logic which says there must have been evidence if it hit the Pentagon, there must conversely be some evidence where it went - how does one make an airplane with passengers disappear?

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i don't believe however that a fire would bring the towers down, nor do a million and one exoerts nor does history.

so now you are some form of engineer? Suddenly you know the temerature at which iron melts.

I have no idea if this is correct, but my physics taught me that iron melts, i.e. the central support is gone, at 2,800 degrees. A plane, full of fuel, canot generate that kind of heat?

Originally Posted by stroller

how does one make an airplane with passengers disappear?

america is a very big, very rich country.
i doubt wether it took off at all.
if it did, i have no idea.
the middle of the Atlantic, Iowa?
certainly not in a 16 foot hole in the Pentagon.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i don't believe however that a fire would bring the towers down

It was a bit more than a fire..
Some houndred tons of materia in motion hitting a non-moving object.
That must have weakened the construction severely.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

nor does history.

now you know you're talking crap. History doesn;t speak for 50 years after the event...

William.
I am no expert.
the experts that say it is impossible for iron to melt within that short time frame are the experts. 55 minutes for the south tower, 110 minutes fior the North.
the firefighters who say they heard explosions on floors 8-34 are not experts burt they are sensient beings that can hear big bombs.

Originally Posted by lom

It was a bit more than a fire..
Some houndred tons of materia in motion hitting a non-moving object.
That must have weakened the construction severely.

that's not the official story.
they said a fire brought it down.
whayt about WT7.
Did a plane hit that one.

CMn - your whole case is not based on whether or not the plan was downed that day, but whether or not it scored a "direct" hit on the pentagon.

On that basis, you must accept that Flight 77 was brought down.

Originally Posted by William

On that basis, you must accept that Flight 77 was brought down.

I don't know.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

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Originally Posted by RDN

Brilliant Stroller. "No pictures" is your evidence

No, they have pics but they don't want to show them. Why ? wouldn't that be easy ? and how would you feel if you find out tommorrow that it wasn't a plane on the Pentagon. Wouldn't you feel a bit foolish ? played ? owned ? see it's easy to be fooled.
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How do you know THEY have pictures? Where is YOUR evidence? Where is YOUR proof that THEY have pictures?
Yes, I would feel more than "pretty stupid" if it wasn't a plane that crashed into the pentagon, I would be totally amazed. But I am 100% confident that it won't happen. Ever.

Sometimes I wish I'd been an insurance agent because I'd love to have met people who believe this stuff. I would've made a fortune.