Thread: 9/11 truth

I have just finished watching 3 9/11 truth movies.
a combination of the three has left me in no doubt whatsoever that the US Government were behind the whole palavar.
prove me wrong.
I'm willing to listen to your nonsense.

I don't think anyone can prove you wrong. It's beyond obvious that it was some insider's job.

try harder macha mate.

we need to ask redux, he is an expert

i would love to prove you wrong

but some one sent me an e- film showing the fall of the towers, with what looked like controlled explsions on the way down.

and loking at both towers falling exactly the same way, like a controlled explosion has got me thinking too tooo much.

Y'all been smokin' that Khon Kaen Crippler again?
There weren't no conspiracy other than a load of Islamos flying big planes into tall buildings. Get real...

prove it.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I have just finished watching 3 9/11 truth movies.
a combination of the three has left me in no doubt whatsoever that the US Government were behind the whole palavar.
prove me wrong.
I'm willing to listen to your nonsense.

Can I have some of what you've been drinking?

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I have just finished watching 3 9/11 truth movies.
a combination of the three has left me in no doubt whatsoever that the NZ Government were big cheats.
prove me wrong.
I'm willing to listen to your nonsense.

My little friend...

The New Zealand Rugby team will continue to beat your sorry fcuking Welsh arse...because we are......
Bigger
Harder
More skillfull
and
Better...



next!

Originally Posted by Maudib

And let's not forget, those airplanes didn't just fly themselves into the twin towers or the Pentagon

There was no aeroplane at the Pentagon.
That seems pretty clear given that no one has ever seen one.

From Wikipedia:

Argument from ignorance

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This article covers both the 'Argument from ignorance' and the 'Argument from incredulity'. The argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or argument by lack of imagination, is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or that a premise is false only because it has not been proven true.
The argument from personal incredulity, also known as argument from personal belief or argument from personal conviction, refers to an assertion that because one personally finds a premise unlikely or unbelievable, the premise can be assumed not to be true, or alternately that another preferred but unproven premise is true instead.
Both arguments commonly share this structure: a person regards the lack of evidence for one view (or alternately, regards their personal bias against the view) as constituting evidence or proof that another view is instead true. In reality this is not valid evidence or proof, as further described below. The types of fallacies discussed in this article should not be confused with the reductio ad absurdum method of argument, in which a valid logical contradiction of the form "A and not A" is used to disprove a premise.

Conspiracy theorists assume that it's somehow up to us, to disprove their ridiculoous theories. This is not so. It's up to the conspiracy theorist to present credible evidence, to support their own theory.

And by credible, I don't mean: www.somewankersaidso.com, or blogspot.net | Pop Culture | Celebrity | Celebrity Gossip | Gossip .

I mean, something that could be conceivably presented in a court of law. Photgraphic images (please spare us the photoshopped ones), eyewitness testimony, expert testimony, confessions, etc.

For those interested, here's a list of The Top September 11 Conspiracy Theories, and their flaws.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

There was no aeroplane at the Pentagon.
That seems pretty clear given that no one has ever seen one.

That's pretty much given now that the Pentagon story was totally cooked up

I have abgsolutely no doubt at all that an aeroplane 140 foot wide and 45 foot high does not get through a hole 16 foot in diameter and disintegrates on the spot, leaving behind absolutely no wreckage or marks on the grass.
It is up to the pentagon to prove that a plane hit the building not for anyone else to prove it didn't.

This is nothing but pure bull shit! Find something constructive to do.

Originally Posted by ceburat

This is nothing but pure bull shit! Find something constructive to do.

in your opinion.
prove to me the Government was not involved in some way.
explain why there were no interception planes scrambled.
explain where all the wreckage went.

explain how WTC building 7 became only the third bulding in the world to collapse because of a fire.
exxplain how the other 2 WTC building became the first and second buildings to collapse due to fire.

explain the thousands of eye witness accounts who heard secondary explosions at the bottom of the buildings and the firefighter accounts of bombs going off on several floors.
explain how the lobby of both towers was in shatters after the planes struck.

It must be very difficult to face up to the awful truth that your Government was involved in such an awful crime and terribly embarrassing to have bought into it without thought.

dowload

"loose change"
and
"in plane sight"

watch these excellent documentaries and make up your own minds.

i don't think it was a conspiracy.

come on. the american govt werent even smart enough to find a few WMD in Iraq.....

do you think they could really come up with something as complicated as this?

Originally Posted by slimboyfat

do you think they could really come up with something as complicated as this?

yes.
they didn't even do it very well, hence all the questions and conflicting evidence.
they relied solely on the emotional response of a patriotic populace.
the truth is outing.

come back Kerux, all is forgiven

Y'all want a real conspiracy to get your teeth into? Try the Bobby Kennedy shooting. Think it was only Sirhan Sirhan behind the killing? Doubt it...

I have reviewed some of the references and I have seen other items.
However, all I see here is mis-guided hate leading you to believe what you want and trying to lead others to do the same. Sorry I don't buy this Bull Shit.

Do you really think i want to believe it?
it kind of throws the world off balance.
i believe it because the evidence compells me to believe it.
show me a plane at the pentagon.
show me another building in the history of the world that has collapsed via fire.
show me something other than misplaced patriotism and fear.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Maudib

And let's not forget, those airplanes didn't just fly themselves into the twin towers or the Pentagon

There was no aeroplane at the Pentagon.
That seems pretty clear given that no one has ever seen one.

What is it you're drinking again?