Thread: torture

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by RDN

So do I then. If a terrorist - in fact, if anybody - knew where a bomb was located that was going to kill lots of people, I would do whatever was necessary - including torture - to get that information out of him/her.

somebody's been watching a few too many episodes of '24'.

I've never watched one all the way through. Maybe 5 minutes and then switched channels. But I get your point.

Actually it was a film - I think I referenced it in this thread earlier - about some Islamic terrorists with two white vans in central London. Each van had a "dirty bomb" - explosives + radio-active material.

One bomb exploded and the police had to find the other. They knew who the terrorist group were and caught one of them. They got information out of him by "water boarding" and they found the other van, shot the driver and his mate dead while they were facing east and saying their prayers.

In such a situation I personally would have ripped the terrorists balls off very slowly to get that information.

Originally Posted by raycarey

if you're so anxious to do 'whatever is necessary', why don't you go to iraq and join the central front on the "war on terror" ?

You seem to care about this more than I do, so instead of complaining about it here, why don't you go?

Originally Posted by raycarey

torture is inhumane, and it isn't effective...

Yes it is inhumane.
No, sometimes it is effective - but I suppose nobody knows IF it is going to be effective until the tortured person speaks.

Originally Posted by raycarey

..unless of course the objective is losing the moral high ground.

Moral high ground? Who is higher than who? Shall we start a new thread on comparing "having you head dunked in water" and "having your head chopped off".