Bible 101

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:01 AM

This is the thread for which the topic is the Bible.

Is it God's written communication to His creation created in His image, man?

How did it come about?

Is it inspired of God?

Is it inerrant?

Can it be trusted?

What does archeology say about the Bible?

What do men say about the Bible?

Within this thread we will attempt to answer the many questions asked within other threads. We will attempt to refute the many false claims made by Bible detractors.

We will present facts and let you decide.

If you are bored by this topic, please don't visit this thread and tell us how boring it is. Those kind of statements are boring.

However, if you are truly interested and would like some answers to some tough questions - the tougher the better - ask them here.

Let the discourse begin.

**ChiangMai noon** · 08-10-2006, 08:02 AM

Have we banned anyone from this thread yet?

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:05 AM

You could start with me.

**ChiangMai noon** · 08-10-2006, 08:07 AM

I have always equated the bible with Aesop's fables.
no more than a book of moral guidelines.

Was i wrong Kerux?

**obsidian** · 08-10-2006, 08:12 AM

I heve always enjoyed roadrunner cartoons. are roadrunner or wiley coyote in the bible?

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I have always equated the bible with Aesop's fables.
no more than a book of moral guidelines.

Was i wrong Kerux?

Visit the thread from time to time and maybe you'll find out.

**ChiangMai noon** · 08-10-2006, 08:16 AM

Is God all-knowing (I John 3:20) or does he sometimes have to find out things (Genesis 18:20-22)?

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by obsidian

I heve always enjoyed roadrunner cartoons. are roadrunner or wiley coyote in the bible?

Me too.

My all time favorite cartoon character is Wile E. Coyote.

Because, although he gets his assed kicked time after time, he always gets up and stays in the fight.

**ChiangMai noon** · 08-10-2006, 08:23 AM

lifted from somewhere.

The Geologists, the Naturalists, the Zoologists, the Botanists, the Biologists, the Physicists, the Physiologists and in fact all the Scientists are perfectly willing you should use the Bible as a moral guide, so long as you do not insist that they accept it as a standard of truth in their respective spheres. They all come to the same conclusion, that the Bible does not contain a solitary scientific truth.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Is God all-knowing (I John 3:20) or does he sometimes have to find out things (Genesis 18:20-22)?

You've taken the Genesis passage out of context and brought it here for discussion.

Rule #1 in Bible interpretation, look/study the passage in context.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:26 AM

Whoa there CMN. One topic at a time. Let's stick with Genesis/I John shall we?

I don't want to be accused of not answering questions,
it is just me here ya know.

**ChiangMai noon** · 08-10-2006, 08:26 AM

I'm bringing it here for you to put it right.
i though that was the point.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:30 AM

Truth never contradicts itself.

So, if in one passage it says God is all knowing, then it can't say in another that he must find things out.

I john 3:20

19 This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence

20 whenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

I'm bringing it here for you to put it right.
i though that was the point.

It is, but let's not jump from one topic to the next until the first one is done, agreed?

**kii maa** · 08-10-2006, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by kerux

Truth never contradicts itself.

So, if in one passage it says God is all knowing, then it can't say in another that he must find things out.

I john 3:20

19 This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence

20 whenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.

he knows fuck all...

cos he aint there

**kingwilly** · 08-10-2006, 08:31 AM

the bible is a series of scriptures with mulitple authors sometimes transcribed by memory years after the events in question. sometimes the oral tradition survived several generations b4 being written down.

(has anyone eva played chinese whispers at school?)

so the bible is a human construct and therefore liable to misinterpretation, misinformation and incorrect 'facts' adn thus not to be taken at face value.

OK THATS ANSWERED THEN. THREAD CLOSED

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:33 AM

1 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. 3 He said, "If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. 4 Let a little water be brought, and then you may all wash your feet and rest under this tree. 5 Let me get you something to eat, so you can be refreshed and then go on your way--now that you have come to your servant." "Very well," they answered, "do as you say." 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. "Quick," he said, "get three seahs of fine flour and knead it and bake some bread." 7 Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.
9 "Where is your wife Sarah?" they asked him. "There, in the tent," he said. 10 Then the Lord said, "I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife will have a son." Now Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him. 11 Abraham and Sarah were already old and well advanced in years, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. 12 So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, "After I am worn out and my master is old, will I now have this pleasure?" 13 Then the Lord said to Abraham, "Why did Sarah laugh and say, 'Will I really have a child, now that I am old?' 14 Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a son." 15 Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, "I did not laugh." But he said, "Yes, you did laugh."
16 When the men got up to leave, they looked down toward Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them on their way. 17 Then the Lord said, "Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? 18 Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. 19 For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him." 20 Then the Lord said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know." 22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.

**benbaaa** · 08-10-2006, 08:34 AM

When I was at college, I shared a house with a god-botherer. He once told me he was a better person than I was because he had god in his life and I didn't.

Then I found his stash of porn that was way more explicit, pervy and extensive than mine, and I had to agree with him.

**kingwilly** · 08-10-2006, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by kerux

Rule #1 in Bible interpretation, look/study the passage in context.

sounds like a sensible thign to do!

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by kingwillyhggtb

the bible is a series of scriptures with mulitple authors sometimes transcribed by memory years after the events in question. sometimes the oral tradition survived several generations b4 being written down.

Yep, and that's what makes the Bible so amazing, it's accurate despite being written by 40 different people over hundreds of years and still maintains the same theme w/o contradictions.

So what if some of the authors wrote about things that happened some time ago. I just finished a book I wrote and did exacty that. I remember things from my children as if it were yesterday. And I wasn't inspired of God. They were.

You just don't want to believe. Ask yourself - why?

**ceburat** · 08-10-2006, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by kerux

This is the thread for which the topic is the Bible.

However, if you are truly interested and would like some answers to some tough questions - the tougher the better - ask them here.

Please explaine to me the second chapter of the Book of Acts.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

When I was at college, I shared a house with a god-botherer. He once told me he was a better person than I was because he had god in his life and I didn't.

Then I found his stash of porn that was way more explicit, pervy and extensive than mine, and I had to agree with him.

So, that's your excuse?

"Gee, God, my roommate was a sinful pervey and didn't represent Christianity very well, so I rejected you."

**Stocky** · 08-10-2006, 08:40 AM

Oh god! not another get your post numbers up thread.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:41 AM

Please explaine to me the second chapter of the Book of Acts.

Please explain to me Newtons theory of relativity.

Keep it short please.

**kerux** · 08-10-2006, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Stocky

Oh god! not another get your post numbers up thread.

Did you stumble in here by mistake?

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