Thread: Treason - Finally

i like Jane Fonda.If she was lucky and 15 years younger, I'd give her one.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

i like Jane Fonda.If she was lucky and 15 years younger, I'd give her one.

Nobody's that horney...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

What about Jane Fonda? Why wasn't she indicted for treason? She broadcasted propaganda to our troops from North Viet Nam. She was photographed on an anti-aircraft gun. If that isn't giving "aid and comfort ... with intent to betray the United States," I don't know what is.

dude, you are living (rather angrily) in the past.

Land of the Free turning into Saudi Arabia. Looks like the bad guys have won.

Originally Posted by raycarey

dude, you are living (rather angrily) in the past.

Please clarify...dude

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

i like Jane Fonda.If she was lucky and 15 years younger, I'd give her one.

Nobody's that horney...

Jane Fonda is a true American hero.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

i like Jane Fonda.If she was lucky and 15 years younger, I'd give her one.

Nobody's that horney...

Jane Fonda is a true American hero.

And little Chuchok is a true hard-core Troll!

man, she was hot

Unbelievably, Gadahn is the first person charged with treason since 9-11. Jose Padilla was not charged with treason. Yaser Esam Hamdi was not charged with treason. John Walker Lindh was not charged with treason. Lynne Stewart was not charged with treason. Nor Pinch Sulzberger and Bill Keller. Excusing the actions of the likes of Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, and any number of American glitterati, whose public statements exceed the boundaries of "questioning policy," requires an awful lot of begging the question. I get the feeling that we've imprisoned more American soldiers, some for utterly picayune offenses (see abu-Ghraib), than we have al-Qaeda. My solution ?


Put me in charge!

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

i like Jane Fonda.If she was lucky and 15 years younger, I'd give her one.

Nobody's that horney...

Jane Fonda is a true American hero.

And little Chuchok is a true hard-core Troll!

I'm serious.I think that you really have a thing for her Boonie.This is only about the 100th post that i have seen you say nasty things about Jane.

She does have a boob job, and that counts IMO.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

man, she was hot

Yeah, 'bout 100 years ago in the one and only good movie she made: "Barbarella"

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Excusing the actions of the likes of Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, and any number of American glitterati, whose public statements exceed the boundaries of "questioning policy,"

first of all, who determines what exceeds the boundaries? you?

and secondly, i don't suppose you could provide a link to an example of how you have concluded they did.

I don't understand how we legitimize Al Qaeda for purposes of defining "treason" yet classify them differently for purposes of interning captives at Guantanamo Bay.

I realize this is a new enemy, but either we're following or rejecting or redefining Geneva Conventions, and it appears the bush Administration is picking and choosing what works at the moment.

It's a scary thought when people are accused of treason due to merely appearing in a video. It's so Orwellian. The subversion of the Constitution by this administration knows no end.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

i like Jane Fonda.If she was lucky and 15 years younger, I'd give her one.

Nobody's that horney...

Jane Fonda is a true American hero.

Adam Yehiye Gadahn is an American hero.

well, you want to see treason ? how about that story ?

Criticizing Cheney to His Face Is Assault? | The Progressive

Criticizing Cheney to His Face Is Assault?
By Matthew Rothschild
October 4, 2006

Steve Howards says he used to fantasize about what he’d say to President Bush or Vice President Cheney if he ever got the chance.

That opportunity arrived on June 16, the same day he says he read about U.S. fatalities in Iraq reaching 2,500.

“Initially, I walked past him. Then I said to myself, ‘I can’t in good conscience let this opportunity pass by.’ So I approached him, I got about two feet away, and I said in a very calm tone of voice, ‘Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible.’”Howards says he was taking two of his kids to their Suzuki piano camp in Beaver Creek, Colorado. They were walking across the outdoor public mall area when all of a sudden he saw Cheney there.

“I didn’t even know he was in town,” Howards says. “He was walking through the area shaking hands. Initially, I walked past him. Then I said to myself, ‘I can’t in good conscience let this opportunity pass by.’ So I approached him, I got about two feet away, and I said in a very calm tone of voice, ‘Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible.’ And then I walked away.”

Howards says he knew the Administration has a “history of making problems” for people who protest its policies, so he wanted to leave off at that.

But the Secret Service did not take kindly to his comment.“About ten minutes later, I came back through the mall with my eight-year-old son in tow,” Howards recalls, “and this Secret Service man came out of the shadows, and his exact words were, ‘Did you assault the Vice President?’ ”

Here’s how Howards says he responded: “No, but I did tell Mr. Cheney the way I felt about the war in Iraq, and if Mr. Cheney wants to be shielded from public criticism, he should avoid public places. If exercising my constitutional rights to free speech is against the law, then you should arrest me.”

Which is just what the agent, Virgil D. “Gus” Reichle Jr, proceeded to do.

“He grabbed me and cuffed my hands behind my back in the presence of my eight-year-old son and told me I was being charged with assault of the Vice President,”Howards recalls.

He says he told the agent, “I can’t abandon my eight-year-old son in a public mall.”

According to Howards, Reichle responded: “We’ll call Social Services.” Before that could happen, however, “my son ran away and found my wife,” who was nearby, Howards says.

“First of all, I was scared,” Howard recalls. “They wouldn’t tell my wife where they were taking me. Second of all, I was incredulous this could be happening in the United States of America. This is what I read about happening in Tiananmen Square. They hauled me away to Eagle County jail and kept me with my hands cuffed behind my back for three hours.”

At the jail, the charge against him was reduced to harassment, he says, and he was released on $500 bond. The Eagle County DA’s office eventually dropped that charge.

On October 3, Howards sued Reichle for depriving him of his First Amendment right of free speech and his Fourth Amendment right to be protected from illegal seizure.

Howards and his attorney, David Lane, have not demanded a specific dollar amount.

“We will go to trial and let a Colorado jury decide what type of damages are appropriate,” says Howards. “This isn’t about anything I did. This about what I said. There is a frontal assault occurring on our constitutional right to free speech. We brought this suit because of our belief that this Administration’s attempt to suppress free speech is a greater threat to the long-term integrity of this nation than ten Osama bin Ladens.”

Reichle did not return my call for comment. Nor did he respond to The New York Times in its article on this incident.

Lon Garner, special agent in charge at the Secret Service’s Denver office, says he has “no reaction” to the lawsuit. “It’s in litigation,” he says. “We have no comment.”

Before his encounter with Cheney, Howards says he had a clean record.

“I was never arrested before,” he says. “I don’t have so much as a speeding ticket.”

Originally Posted by gulfcoast

I don't understand how we legitimize Al Qaeda for purposes of defining "treason" yet classify them differently for purposes of interning captives at Guantanamo Bay. I realize this is a new enemy, but either we're following or rejecting or redefining Geneva Conventions, and it appears the bush Administration is picking and choosing what works at the moment.

that's a really good point.

why doesn't somebody in the media ask GWB that question during a press conference?

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

dude, you are living (rather angrily) in the past.

Please clarify...dude

jane fonda, ted kennedy?

you do realize it's almost 2007, right?

honestly, do you have alzheimers or something? if you do, PM me and i'll stop picking on you.

Yeah, best to forget the past so as to have an excuse to commit the same mistakes again today.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Unbelievably, Gadahn is the first person charged with treason since 9-11. Jose Padilla was not charged with treason. Yaser Esam Hamdi was not charged with treason. John Walker Lindh was not charged with treason. Lynne Stewart was not charged with treason. Nor Pinch Sulzberger and Bill Keller. Excusing the actions of the likes of Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, and any number of American glitterati, whose public statements exceed the boundaries of "questioning policy," requires an awful lot of begging the question. I get the feeling that we've imprisoned more American soldiers, some for utterly picayune offenses (see abu-Ghraib), than we have al-Qaeda. My solution ?

Care to quote a source?

Gadahn is a red herring. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfled/Tenet et al. are the traitors who should be tried for treason.

Boon mee ... you can at least take solace in knowing that Ted Turner kicked the whiny wench to the curb.

Jane Fonda is a damn good reason white men turn to Asian ladies.

^ good point SK, you know the saying about American women, don't you ? great for sport fucking, make terrible wives.