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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    These people want to control every aspect of your life
    Dude wants to look at Fantasy Football and clear up some of the ambiguity in the laws around it. Right-wing blog sensationalizes a headline, out it spins into the echo-chamber to be repeated ad nauseam as something it isn't.

    Meanwhile conservatives want to be able to tell women what they can do with their own bodies, who can/can't get married, and insist people live according to a book about magic sky pixies.

    So, tell me again who wants to control every aspect of your life.
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    <insert head exploding gif>

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    New Zealand protests planned in solidarity with banned book

    Nationwide readings to be staged in reaction to the ban on Ted Dawe’s coming-of-age book Into the River

    Ted Dawe: censorship is alive in New Zealand. I should know: my book was banned."

    Auckland’s Time Out bookstore, meanwhile, has pulled together a window display of previously banned books from Animal Farm to The Catcher in the Rye, including Into the River inside a paper bag, in protest at the ban. “Into The River can be a confronting book, but it’s an honest one. We look forward to removing the paper bag and selling it again,” wrote the bookshop’s Jenna Todd. “It’s gritty, unapologetic and raw. It contains sex, drugs and swear words. But when read in context, its confronting scenes add depth to the protagonist Te Arepa’s toxic surroundings. Many of the so-called scandalous and ‘offensive’ scenes result in negative experiences for him. It’s a good book. And this week, I have been told we will be fined $10,000 if we sell or display it.”

    New Zealand protests planned in solidarity with banned book | Books | The Guardian

    Hope all you fair minded Kiwis rise up and demand that banning books is just so 'yesterday'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Hope all you fair minded Kiwis rise up and demand that banning books is just so 'yesterday'...
    No book has been banned.

    So no.

    Meanwhile in the land of free speech, Amendments, and stuff...

    Harry Potter has been the subject of at least six book burnings in the U.S.


    http://www.metro.us/entertainment/fr...a7TL7zUdJOJgo/
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Hope all you fair minded Kiwis rise up and demand that banning books is just so 'yesterday'...
    No book has been banned.

    So no.

    Meanwhile in the land of free speech, Amendments, and stuff...

    Harry Potter has been the subject of at least six book burnings in the U.S.


    From blacklisted to celebrated: Banned Books Week ? Metro
    But insane asylums don't count. America that is.

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    That were book burnings. Bit different than a banned book like what's happening in NZ, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    That were book burnings. Bit different than a banned book like what's happening in NZ, eh?
    No book has been banned in NZ.

    Q. So what's the difference between a book being burned in the U.S. and a book not having been banned in NZ?

    A. Nothing, Booners still wouldn't have read and comprehended either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    That were book burnings. Bit different than a banned book like what's happening in NZ, eh?
    You really are quite thick . . .

    a) Murkins burn books
    b) New Zealand hasn't banned the book

    Capisce?

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    Public schools. Does the stupidity ever end?
    AP September 25, 2015

    8-year-old suspended for wearing wrong shade of green

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    SICKLERVILLE, N.J. -- An 8-year-old girl received a one-day suspension from her southern New Jersey public elementary school for wearing a shirt that was the wrong shade of green.

    The girl's mother tells WTXF-TV that Winslow Township Elementary School No. 4 sent her daughter home Tuesday for wearing a kelly green polo shirt, which was deemed to be in violation of the Camden County school's dress code.

    The school's dress code specifies that shirts and blouses may only be white, dark green or navy.

    Winslow Township School's code on dress and grooming says "school attire can influence a pupil's behavior and potentially impact the academic environment."

    Other parents have reported that their children were suspended for wearing wrong colored shirts as well.

    The girl's mother called the suspension "a little ridiculous."
    8-year-old suspended for wearing wrong shade of green - CBS News

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    This so called 'banned' book Booners has ranted about is now been ruled as 'unrestricted access'. So big drama about nothing. It just so

    happened that a loony right wing Christian group managed to capture the ear of the chairman of the NZ Film and Literature Board of

    Review who had the same sick views and who had the power to make interim decisions between Board meetings. The Board

    has now met and reason over superstition has prevailed. I suspect the chairman will have a short tenure. More

    here

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    Excellent news. I'm sure Booners will be ecstatic to hear on his occasional lurks.

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    Fact is the book was never banned at all, but that didn't stop the moron going on about it incessantly over many threads

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Fact is the book was never banned at all, but that didn't stop the moron going on about it incessantly over many threads
    You banned so many books does it hardly matter. Oh and you burned the people as well too. One word to you and it is


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    Weird how white people with no friends outside their racial group spend their lives being pc. It is like they feel guilty about it. The whole nanny state is just an extension of pcness which has ruined the west.

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    Sorry Ant. Not trying to be a pedantic dick.

    Buuut... Over 1300 books have been banned in NZ..

    "Into the River" was banned in NZ.

    Racy teen novel Into the River banned after Family First complaint | Stuff.co.nz

    There are approximately 1300 titles which are ‘objectionable’ (banned) in New Zealand. Approximately 1225 were classified as indecent by the Indecent Publications Tribunal (IPT) in the period 1963-1994. The remainder are decisions of the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC).

    Information on banned and restricted books | Booksellers New Zealand

    *Not saying I agree or disagree... indifferent really.. just stating a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    Sorry Ant. Not trying to be a pedantic dick.

    Buuut... Over 1300 books have been banned in NZ..

    "Into the River" was banned in NZ.

    Racy teen novel Into the River banned after Family First complaint | Stuff.co.nz

    There are approximately 1300 titles which are ‘objectionable’ (banned) in New Zealand. Approximately 1225 were classified as indecent by the Indecent Publications Tribunal (IPT) in the period 1963-1994. The remainder are decisions of the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC).

    Information on banned and restricted books | Booksellers New Zealand

    *Not saying I agree or disagree... indifferent really.. just stating a fact.
    No need to apologize but it ain't really a fact though mate.

    It was the subject of a temporary injunction based on the Family First application until it was reviewed and classified. It was never at any stage 'banned'.

    In fact I see that it was classified and released recently. The author must be loving it, what was probably destined for second-hand book bins became a best seller because of the manufactured fuss about it.

    As to the others I'd have to see a list but along with all the usual suspects on it I would bet there would be books/titles about things such a pedophilia etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Over the years, the socialist governments of the UK could not resist the urge to interfere in individuals lives.
    The result is the nanny state we have today. Family and social cohesion undermined by a plethora of regulation which allows a poor working class, 16 year old girl to get herself with child, and then support her and child for the forseeable future.
    It's a train wreck of poor, ill educated, rootless individuals set up to milk the system.
    It has created an underclass with no morals, but with a handle on entitlements which are undeserved.
    As noted previously, law enforcement is down to that which can be served easily on the few remaining, law abiding citizens.

    Nanny, naneeee, where are my free tranquilisers?
    ...and the Tory goverments leave individuals without sufficient means to support themselves, creates and underclass by depriving those from poorer backgrounds of a decent education. The function of government should be to protect it's citizens by ensuring access to as mentioned proper education, decent home and health standards and above all sufficient means to live - the list doesn't stop here of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    Sorry Ant. Not trying to be a pedantic dick.

    Buuut... Over 1300 books have been banned in NZ..

    "Into the River" was banned in NZ.

    Racy teen novel Into the River banned after Family First complaint | Stuff.co.nz

    There are approximately 1300 titles which are ‘objectionable’ (banned) in New Zealand. Approximately 1225 were classified as indecent by the Indecent Publications Tribunal (IPT) in the period 1963-1994. The remainder are decisions of the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC).

    Information on banned and restricted books | Booksellers New Zealand

    *Not saying I agree or disagree... indifferent really.. just stating a fact.
    No need to apologize but it ain't really a fact though mate.

    It was the subject of a temporary injunction based on the Family First application until it was reviewed and classified. It was never at any stage 'banned'.

    In fact I see that it was classified and released recently. The author must be loving it, what was probably destined for second-hand book bins became a best seller because of the manufactured fuss about it.

    As to the others I'd have to see a list but along with all the usual suspects on it I would bet there would be books/titles about things such a pedophilia etc.
    I don't know where this 1300 came from.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_governments

    Famous banned books

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    The anti-war novel, Johnney Got His Gun, by Dalton Trumbo, was written about a wounded souldier in WWI and published just days before America entered WWII. It was banned because it interfered with the recruiting for the new war.

    There have been others: One or both of Henry Miller's "Tropics of..." books was banned for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    The anti-war novel, Johnney Got His Gun, by Dalton Trumbo, was written about a wounded souldier in WWI and published just days before America entered WWII. It was banned because it interfered with the recruiting for the new war.

    There have been others: One or both of Henry Miller's "Tropics of..." books was banned for awhile.
    James Cagney did a radio show version of this book. 30 compelling minutes well worth listening to:

    "Johnny Got His Gun" Radio Show Starring James Cagney

    http://http://fan.tcm.com/audio/john...g-james-cagney

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    Thanks for that. I listened to the first few minutes, but it brings back memories of the book and, as good as it is, written in the first person, the story is painful to read even though it is fiction.
    However, highly recommended.

    It was made into a movie in the late 60s. Trumbo was one of two directors, if memory serves.

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