9/11.....five years on

**attaboy** · 13-09-2006, 10:32 AM

The problem is the Clinton administration and Democrats today feel that terrrorism should be treated as a criminal offense which means they have full rights and protection and we need conrete evidence, warrants and trials for these guys.

I agree hit squads and human intelligence which means we have to do away with the bs that we cannot conduct business with bad people. We need to sweep away Jimmy Carter's intelligence policies. We need natives on our payroll so the terrorists are paranoid and cannot trust each other so they kill each other out of suspicion. We need to rot them from the inside out.

**Wallace** · 13-09-2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It isn't our damn fault that Muslims for the most part live in bassackwards countries and ain't got shit.

Sadly, SK, they have most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world. The Sultan of Brunei is the richest man in the world and a muslim. The poorest and most 'bassackwards' countries tend to be found in Africa. I thought you were generally more careful with your words.

**Storekeeper** · 13-09-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Wallace

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It isn't our damn fault that Muslims for the most part live in bassackwards countries and ain't got shit.

Sadly, SK, they have most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world. The Sultan of Brunei is the richest man in the world and a muslim. The poorest and most 'bassackwards' countries tend to be found in Africa. I thought you were generally more careful with your words.

You're right. But I think you know what I mean though, right ? They may be rich but they're still bassackwards. They still don't know how to get the damn oil out of the ground without the help of the British. And they still are dependent on the rest of the wolrd for the refinery process. Right or wrong ?

Are you sure the Sultan is the richest man in the world ? I thought the Top 5 richest people in the world were mostly British, American and Japanese people?

**man with no head** · 13-09-2006, 01:17 PM

We need natives on our payroll so the terrorists are paranoid and cannot trust each other so they kill each other out of suspicion. We need to rot them from the inside out.

That's exactly my point of view and a summary of what I said.

**keda** · 13-09-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Wallace

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It isn't our damn fault that Muslims for the most part live in bassackwards countries and ain't got shit.

Sadly, SK, they have most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world. The Sultan of Brunei is the richest man in the world and a muslim. The poorest and most 'bassackwards' countries tend to be found in Africa. I thought you were generally more careful with your words.

Says much then, that they who have, as you say, most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world, keep their people not only repressed in poverty and ignorance, but also handcuffed to forms of zealotry that threaten the entire civilised world.

**man with no head** · 13-09-2006, 01:22 PM

^Because the instability increases oil prices.

**keda** · 13-09-2006, 01:23 PM

According to Forbes (2005) the world's 5 richest men are:
Gates
Buffett
Mittall (steel)
Helu (telecom)
AlSaud (guess)

**keda** · 13-09-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by surasak

^Because the instability increases oil prices.

No dispute there, though I think most of us know there are deeper motivations involved.

keda

**Butterfly** · 13-09-2006, 01:31 PM

Forbes is one source and use a certain methodology. They are richer people than Bill Gates but they don't advertise it on Forbes issue of top millionaires in the world.

**Storekeeper** · 13-09-2006, 01:38 PM

More Muslims Arrive in U.S., After 9/11 Dip

“America has always been the promised land for Muslims and non-Muslims,” said Behzad Yaghmaian, an Iranian exile and author of “Embracing the Infidel: Stories of Muslim Migrants on the Journey West.” “Despite Muslims’ opposition to America’s foreign policy, they still come here because the United States offers what they’re missing at home.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/10/ny...in&oref=slogin

**keda** · 13-09-2006, 01:42 PM

Not unlike those Brit Muslims who despise the very hands that feed them.

**HermantheGerman** · 13-09-2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

fucking up the quote thing as usual Herman. What's wrong ? your fat little fingers can't punch properly the quote button ?

So many women say (especially Thai's) that I have nice, smooth, beautiful hands . I suppose not too many women say that about your fat little face.

**Whiteshiva** · 13-09-2006, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

So many women say (especially Thai's) that I have nice, smooth, beautiful hands .

Post of the year!!!!!!!

I bet they compliment you on your taste in clothes, men and jewelry, too......

**raycarey** · 13-09-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by attaboy

We need to sweep away Jimmy Carter's intelligence policies.

ummmmm.....carter left office in january 1981. that was 25 years ago.

a quarter of a century ago he was president for only four years, and was followed by 8 years of reagan, 4 years of bush 41, and another 6 years of bush43 .....yet somehow he is still responsible for the failures of the 'war on terrorism'?

**machangezi** · 13-09-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Wallace

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It isn't our damn fault that Muslims for the most part live in bassackwards countries and ain't got shit.

Sadly, SK, they have most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world. The Sultan of Brunei is the richest man in the world and a muslim. The poorest and most 'bassackwards' countries tend to be found in Africa. I thought you were generally more careful with your words.

Says much then, that they who have, as you say, most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world, keep their people not only repressed in poverty and ignorance, but also handcuffed to forms of zealotry that threaten the entire civilised world.

Keda out of curosity have you ever been to Brunei?

**raycarey** · 13-09-2006, 09:35 PM

back on topic....

5 years after 9/11 and....

OBL is MIA
the forgotten war (afghanistan) is in a downward spiral
rummy is stil sec. of defense.

and there isn't even a memorial for those who died in the WTC.

mission accomplished?

boon mee, sk, attaboy, earl, eliminator, rdn, keda...any thoughts?

**KID** · 13-09-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by surasak

The terrorists get a degree of sympathy because of actions like what we do in Iraq.

I'm telling you, we should have created special death squads whose sole mission in life was to seek out, infiltrate, and render these groups impotent. Nothing would destroy them quicker than being destroyed from the inside because lack of trust would prevent the groups from growing as members got killed. 500 or 1000 John Clarks would put shivers up the spines of every terrorist in the world (see if you know who I am referring to

).

Fight fire with fire. No country in the world would have opposed such an idea.

Now that the insurgents have bogged us down it simply makes it easier for more to come along and bog us down even more. They know the public has no appetite for high casualty rates. That's why using the general military was a major blunder. We just assumed it would be a cakewalk. The problem is that if the general population doesn't want democracy it becomes a waste of time, resources, and money.

Can you imagine how much better off we'd be security-wise if we'd invested the $400 billion being spent on Iraq to improve border security, airline baggage checking, etc?

good post surasak---and some of it is very true

the only problem is that assassination of wold leaders is against the Geneva convention and the u.n. and the rest of the world would never approve of it

**keda** · 14-09-2006, 12:06 AM

[quote=Macha;171531]

Originally Posted by keda

Keda out of curosity have you ever been to Brunei?

I haven't, which I'm quite certain means you've discovered a Muslim enclave on the planet, owned by a real rich oil guy, where the 372,361 people are not kept in abject poverty and ignorance. Bravo!

keda

**attaboy** · 14-09-2006, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by attaboy

We need to sweep away Jimmy Carter's intelligence policies.

ummmmm.....carter left office in january 1981. that was 25 years ago.

a quarter of a century ago he was president for only four years, and was followed by 8 years of reagan, 4 years of bush 41, and another 6 years of bush43 .....yet somehow he is still responsible for the failures of the 'war on terrorism'?

He shares responsibility yes. Carter decided we could gain all the intelligence we needed from satelites and eavesdropping. He dismantled our human intelligence program and made it illegal to do business with the kind of people who are connected to the underground pipleine of nefarious doings

and undeclared cash movements.

and there isn't even a memorial for those who died in the WTC.

You're still trolling this? Come on ray if you care for the bereaved (your word not mine) than say what you are doing about it other than pounding away on a keyboard. Say something like, "I'm emoting outrage".

**HermantheGerman** · 14-09-2006, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Wallace

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It isn't our damn fault that Muslims for the most part live in bassackwards countries and ain't got shit.

Sadly, SK, they have most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world. The Sultan of Brunei is the richest man in the world and a muslim. The poorest and most 'bassackwards' countries tend to be found in Africa. I thought you were generally more careful with your words.

The Sultan of Brunei! WOW!!! Wallace what a back far of little .... you are!
Great example. Are you another one of those english speaking teachers like...
DISGUSTING!

**Boon Mee** · 14-09-2006, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

a quarter of a century ago he was president for only four years, and was followed by 8 years of reagan, 4 years of bush 41, and another 6 years of bush43 .....yet somehow he is still responsible for the failures of the 'war on terrorism'?

He was the worst president of the 20th century.
Failed to obtain the release of the Embassy prisoners.
Skylab was another shining moment of glory under this worthless POS...

**man with no head** · 14-09-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by KID

the only problem is that assassination of wold leaders is against the Geneva convention and the u.n. and the rest of the world would never approve of it

It would be preferable to assassinate a world leader versus invading and occupying a country for no good cause. Neither one really is the characteristic of a nation with high moral standards. I thought we were better than that.

Back on topic, I wasn't referring to knocking off certain leaders. I was referrring to knocking off terrorists one by one by one....

**Marmite the Dog** · 14-09-2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by surasak

I wasn't referring to knocking off certain leaders. I was referrring to knocking off terrorists one by one by one....

That's a pity. Someone putting a bullet where GWB's brain supposedly is, would be the best event I could think of (except for Mum winning 20m quid on the lottery).

**Mhz** · 14-09-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by Wallace

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It isn't our damn fault that Muslims for the most part live in bassackwards countries and ain't got shit.

Sadly, SK, they have most of the world's oil and represent some of the richest people in the world. The Sultan of Brunei is the richest man in the world and a muslim. The poorest and most 'bassackwards' countries tend to be found in Africa. I thought you were generally more careful with your words.

The Sultan of Brunei! WOW!!! Wallace what a back far of little .... you are!
Great example. Are you another one of those english speaking teachers like...
DISGUSTING!

He is talking about Sultan of Brunei. Do you even know what Brunei is??

**Eliminator** · 14-09-2006, 01:55 PM

Go here for info on Brunei:

Brunei: Map, History and Much More From Answers.com

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