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    Divorced at Age of 10

    I don't want to hear the "culture" argument. These people are sick and disturbed. Islam + culture.

    Islam influences culture; culture influences Islam.

    It's good this 10 year old, Nujood, wrote a book and traveled the world, to tell her story.

    Op-Ed Columnist
    Divorced Before Puberty

    By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
    Published: March 3, 2010
    It’s hard to imagine that there have been many younger divorcées — or braver ones — than a pint-size third grader named Nujood Ali.
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    The cover of Nujood Ali’s book, which was a bestseller in France.

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    At her school in Yemen, Nujood received a visit from her publisher, Michel Lafon.

    Nujood is a Yemeni girl, and it’s no coincidence that Yemen abounds both in child brides and in terrorists (and now, thanks to Nujood, children who have been divorced). Societies that repress women tend to be prone to violence.
    For Nujood, the nightmare began at age 10 when her family told her that she would be marrying a deliveryman in his 30s. Although Nujood’s mother was unhappy, she did not protest. “In our country it’s the men who give the orders, and the women who follow them,” Nujood writes in a powerful new autobiography just published in the United States this week, “I Am Nujood, Age 10 and Divorced.”


    Her new husband forced her to drop out of school (she was in the second grade) because a married woman shouldn’t be a student. At her wedding, Nujood sat in the corner, her face swollen from crying.


    Nujood’s father asked the husband not to touch her until a year after she had had her first menstrual period. But as soon as they were married, she writes, her husband forced himself on her.


    He soon began to beat her as well, the memoir says, and her new mother-in-law offered no sympathy. “Hit her even harder,” the mother-in-law would tell her son.

    Nujood had heard that judges could grant divorces, so one day she sneaked away, jumped into a taxi and asked to go to the courthouse.


    “I want to talk to the judge,” the book quotes Nujood as forlornly telling a woman in the courthouse.


    “Which judge are you looking for?”
    “I just want to speak to a judge, that’s all.”
    “But there are lots of judges in this courthouse.”
    “Take me to a judge — it doesn’t matter which one!”


    When she finally encountered a judge, Nujood declared firmly: “I want a divorce!”
    Yemeni journalists turned Nujood into a cause célèbre, and she eventually won her divorce. The publicity inspired others, including an 8-year-old Saudi girl married to a man in his 50s, to seek annulments and divorces.

    As a pioneer, Nujood came to the United States and was honored in 2008 as one of Glamour magazine’s “Women of the Year.” Indeed, Nujood is probably the only third grader whom Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has described as “one of the greatest women I have ever seen.”
    Nujood’s memoir spent five weeks as the No. 1 best-seller in France. It is being published in 18 other languages, including her own native language of Arabic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Islam + culture.

    Don,t think that they are linked

    Islam is just the umbrella under which regional / national behaviour exists. most of it unrelated to Mohammed

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Islam + culture.

    Don,t think that they are linked

    Islam is just the umbrella under which regional / national behaviour exists. most of it unrelated to Mohammed
    Very true but don't let reality spoil a good bigoted rant.
    Don't let facts get in the way either. Little things like the Vatican age of consent is 12 or 13 in Spain. In fact more Christian countries have lower ages of consent that Muslim countries with only 2 exception, Yemen being one.
    I small number of Muslims do bent things and "all" Muslims are child fucking bastards.
    Sounds far better for the papers.
    Be happy dudes. It's a lot more fun than crying.

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    ^ and ^ please explain,

    how Islam is NOT involved in this?

    I am asking because I want to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ and ^ please explain,

    how Islam is NOT involved in this?

    I am asking because I want to learn.

    Its like saying all Christians are the same, The Germans were/are Christians in WW2, or any other country professing to be so.

    As I said it,s an umbrella that has little meaning to the religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ and ^ please explain,

    how Islam is NOT involved in this?

    I am asking because I want to learn.

    Its like saying all Christians are the same, The Germans were/are Christians in WW2, or any other country professing to be so.

    As I said it,s an umbrella that has little meaning to the religion
    I think you are completely missing the point.

    I never implied that all Christians or Germans were/are the same.


    I am a bit confused.

    It is HIGHLY relevant to RELIGION.

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    I guess it's ok for Hindus to do it but as soon as a Muslim does such a thing.......

    More to do with culture than religion anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ and ^ please explain,

    how Islam is NOT involved in this?

    I am asking because I want to learn.
    A picture paints a thousand words.
    "All Christians"



    Do "all Christians" dress like this or is it just a few?

    Get it?

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    Muslims?

    Nope, Christians. All Christians make their women dress daft.

    Get it?

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    All Buddhists



    Get it?

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    ALL men that go to Thailand are there to shag children


    Christopher Paul Neil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In other words "all" in any group is a load of old bollocks. Some in a given group are but most are not.

    Get it?

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    Bugger, just noticed he studied to become an Anglican priest. looks like ALL Christians like to shag little boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR2
    Islam is just the umbrella under which regional / national behaviour exists. most of it unrelated to Mohammed
    As haqs been repeated a million times

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Very true but don't let reality spoil a good bigoted rant.
    Get used to it, there is a hardcore anti-anything-Arab-Muslim group here

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    I small number of Muslims do bent things and "all" Muslims are child fucking bastards.
    Indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    how Islam is NOT involved in this?

    I am asking because I want to learn
    Obvious, really. Just open your eyes, Milkie

    Quote Originally Posted by TSR2
    Its like saying all Christians are the same, The Germans were/are Christians in WW2, or any other country professing to be so.
    Good example

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I think you are completely missing the point.

    I never implied that all Christians or Germans were/are the same.


    I am a bit confused.

    It is HIGHLY relevant to RELIGION.
    Duh, TSR2 is illustrating a comparative . . . disregard the 'Christian/German' and replace with anything else

    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    I guess it's ok for Hindus to do it but as soon as a Muslim does such a thing.......

    More to do with culture than religion anyway.
    Yup, yup, yup

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Do "all Christians" dress like this or is it just a few?
    ALL of them

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Nope, Christians. All Christians make their women dress daft.
    ALL of them

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    All Buddhists
    Every single one

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    ALL men that go to Thailand are there to shag children
    Without exception . . . and their religion is?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Get it?
    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Get it?
    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Get it?
    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Get it?
    Probably not.

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    barbarians, those countries are really sick, they would need a good communism revolution to cleanse themselves from those habits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post

    I am asking because I want to learn.
    Bullshit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I don't want to hear the "culture" argument. These people are sick and disturbed.
    You want to learn but you specifically exclude stuff you don't want to hear. You've already made your mind up. What kind of "learning" is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ and ^ please explain,

    how Islam is NOT involved in this?

    I am asking because I want to learn.
    A picture paints a thousand words.
    "All Christians"



    Do "all Christians" dress like this or is it just a few?

    Get it?
    This is not about dress.

    And it is not about "all."

    The photo looks like he's Orthodox Christian.

    Focus on the topic.

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    Back to the OP. Whatever nationality or religion, this is a very brave little girl. I hope everything gets better in her life.

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    I wonder if she gets the house and alimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Back to the OP. Whatever nationality or religion, this is a very brave little girl. I hope everything gets better in her life.
    Yes, we should focus on the girl, and not the issue of culture and religion.

    (No one was able to answer my comments or questions), and the OP is about the girls who was married at ten.

    Good on her. I wonder if she lives with her parents, still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR2
    I don't want to hear the "culture" argument. These people are sick and disturbed. Islam + culture.

    Islam influences culture; culture influences Islam.
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Yes, we should focus on the girl, and not the issue of culture and religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    No one was able to answer my comments or questions)
    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Get it?
    Very obviously not

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Good on her.
    Indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Back to the OP. Whatever nationality or religion, this is a very brave little girl. I hope everything gets better in her life.
    Yes, we should focus on the girl, and not the issue of culture and religion.

    (No one was able to answer my comments or questions), and the OP is about the girls who was married at ten.

    Good on her. I wonder if she lives with her parents, still.
    You wonder if she still lives with her parents?! Are you insane? Those are the fools that gave her away in the first place.

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