Politically Correct.

**Missismiggins** · 15-12-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I bet you a penny that you have fancied posting something here, (as I have done) and then either tried to "alter" the original source, as you realised that it would be SHOT DOWN, simply as it came from a Non Politically Correct origin!!!

ahhhh....i think i remember this....you were citing 'stormfront', weren't you?

Perfect!

This is exactly what I mean.

It does not matter if facts are correct, under the PC system, by simply associating the original post as being related or originating from a "NONE PC" source, you immediately try to discredit it, you offer no evidence, not a shred, all you do is..."Ahhh Stormfront" and that is it!!! You hit the fucking nail on the head! Thank you!!

Why don't you go and take a look at some of these "non PC" sites, you might get your eyes opened.

I don't conform to simply accepting everything google tells me, i like to look a bit deeper, and yes sometimes when you start to follow links, you can often en up in some strange places.

But facts are facts, and if they are untrue, then they can be clearly shown to be untrue by pointing out the evidence to discredit them.

But, if you look through some of my more "offensive" or "non mainstream" posts, you will see, as you do in your post, that there is no counter evidence, only the rubbishing of an opinion, (that is usually backed by facts) simply by quoting the source!

If you want an interesting topic to go and look through, and it is a couple of days checking and rechecking, then take a look at this link, then, go and present your response, and provide me with facts, not rhetoric!

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Try and spend a bit of time actually reading it, most people take on look and are horrified that this is even suggested, but it is based on fact!

If you believe in the right to free thought and speech, you should have a good read of this and then prepare your arguments against it, not emotional, but factual.

This is the hard part - there seems to be virtually no FACTUAL evidence to back up a counter argument!

This is where we are! We are forced by laws, in so called Civilised Democracies, to SHUT UP, and simply ACCEPT!! No questions asked!

If they say the sky is green, and pass a law that says everyone must say the sky is green, are you going to say the sky is green, even when it is blue?

I produce photographic evidence that the sky is blue, backed up by photographic experts, and colour analysts, that all say that the sky is blue.

But because "common knowledge" says the sky is green, I cannot even submit my evidence to a court!!!

MM, I find many of your posts amusing and enjoy your banter, but here we part company.

To deny the deaths of Jews at concentration camps is bordering on the insane.

People revise history so it fits with their viewpoints. The links you've cited are full of opinion and not facts.

This guy also is VERY anti-abortion, using shocking images to elicit emotive responses. Look at that part of his site!

Basically he's an extreme right wing nutter, who manipulates and deceives.

frontline: memory of the camps: watch the full program online | PBS

You should try watching this sometime, much of which was made as the allied troops entered the camps. I've watched it all. The cholera bullshit cited on your links fails miserably when this is viewed.

Really MM, I agree that the world has gone PC crazy, but I really don't understand why you would advocate the views of those who are openly racist.

Firstly, I do not deny that Jews died at concentration camps, they died in thousands, as did many more races.

What I deny is Gas Chambers and a policy by the Nazis to "exterminate them" every few years we get an "update", first, the Jews were almost exterminated using various methods, to the tune of 6 million, and they were gassed at Dachau!

NOW Even the Jews confirm NO ONE WAS GASSED AT DACHAU!!!

Then the figure of the murdered Jews was reduced to 4.5 million, from 6 million...where did the 1.5 million go???

Then after even more years passed, the JEWS - no one else- the Jews removed the commerative plaque at Aushwitz, that commemorated 4.5 million "slain" and replaced it with the current plaque, of 1.5 million slain!

So, in the past 50 years or so, the lie upon lie has now reduced the death toll from (some estimates by really hard trying Jews was 11 million - more than the Jewish population of europe) 6 million to 1.5million... and even that is debatable...there were no fucking gas chambers, they died like everyone else, from typhoid, and other diseases.

What is wrong with people these days that they will NOT go and revisit this shit?

The more you dig, the more lies you find!

Please post 1 single, only one photo of a gas chamber...go on...JUST 1... oh how clever the Germans were at hiding them...go revisit the posts that show the plan layout of Aushchwitz...but I will wait, probably untuil I die, for just one single tiny photo, of people being taken to, or near a gas chamber...we have been fucked up the arse for 50 years by these bastards! and you are still swallowing their shit!

What would you say if you found out people were condemned to death for murder?
What would you then say if you found out that the people that condemned them, condemned them on the fact that they said that they Gassed people?
Then what would you say if, 40 years later, you found out there was no gas, no gas chambers...

That is exactly what happened with Dachau!

Lying fucking vermin had men beaten to death over complete and utter lies! (take a look at that photo where the guard has the top of his head smashed in with a shovel...)

Now, think a little about that.. is that OK with you?.. not with me!

Lets find out the truth here...as the years progress, the lies keep being unearthed... I bet you never thought that the Diary of Anne Frank was a Complete fucking lie...but dig there too! (Her Daddy completed the "diary" on her behalf..bless the little jew for lying to everyone for 50 years..hats off to another lying [at][at][at][at]!

The Caucasian people are so willing to defend every single misfit and pervert at their own expense and own downfall it is unbelievable!

You will fight for the rights of FILTH, defending their freedoms, their rights, their cultures, whilst destroying your own culture! Shocking! You really amaze me!

Why would you do this... We have African Americans screaming about their fucking rights, and you lot are supporting them. at the expense of your CULTURE....WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PRESERVING WHITE CULTURE.... hey, if its equal rights, lets get 50% on the white mans side! Fucking unbelievable... see where your grandkids end up!

The thing I can never understand is why you lot defend the rights of Negroes to keep their culture (and every other minority) whilst you shout down any white person that wants the same for HIS CULTURE...you are all fucking mad...you will become as extinct as dinosaurs,.l

100 years gao, the white/ caucasians made up 35% of the earths population, now they are down to 8%...do you really want an end to caucasian people?

It has fuck all to do with racism, it has fuck all to do with colour, it is the simple fact of your identity, your culture.. is your culture not worth the same as a negroes? What are people afraid of, are you not as proud as the Negro about your heritage...are only blacks allowed PRIDE!!!

**Missismiggins** · 15-12-2009, 09:51 PM

Soon we will get the TEFL'ers left of centre posts...da dee da de da...but the funny thing is they only spout hatred, never an argument! Only lightening bolts from the staffroom..Zap Zap..the facist...bzzzz

**AjarnJonesy** · 17-12-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

The two letter rubbish here is not really that important, I detest it, but it is not my Home Country, I cannot vote on the matter I have no rights on the matter...end of story, I cannot change Thailand, that is up to the Thais themselves, OK we can poke and prod and suggest, but at the end of the day they will go their own merry way as usual..up to them! (and it doesn't really matter too much as Thailand hardly sets the precident for world thinking or world politics, they are an international joke)

The point I am making, is what is happenning in the so called "Free" countries, the USA, the UK, Germany, Austria, so called civilised countries are now starting to behave like the Soviet Union and China did 40/50 years ago, banning opinion, (At least the US still has the first ammendment - but for how long?) The freedoms we had in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's diminish every day, what you could say then, you cannot say now...this is the core of what I am getting at, if you break out and cross the line of "accepted" normality - (what is normal?) you start down the road as being a leper of society, rather than just another opinion.

If your opinions are shit, they will not stand the test of time, they really don't need jail sentences or gagging orders!

Very well said and very true...!!

**meepho** · 17-12-2009, 05:40 PM

Good topic MM,
A slight incidence of this happened in the house of paliament yesterday,
Hariot harperson, confronts the opposition party [conservatives ], about global warming, and tells them to get thier party in order as they have 11 deniers.

That is a strong word being used again and again to push policies.

What was wrong with you have 11 that dissagree.

Now i am a denier, and it is because i do not agree with the evidence so far.

You are quite correct our freedoms are being dimished, i have mentioned before on other threads.

**AntRobertson** · 17-12-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by meepho

You are quite correct our freedoms are being dimished, i have mentioned before on other threads.

How, exactly? Any examples?

deniers

Semantics; they were still able to express their views were they not.

**StrontiumDog** · 17-12-2009, 11:15 PM

Indeed, isn't a denier someone who denies something? In order to ascertain whether they are a denier, isn't it doubtlessly due to them having expressed their denial at some point? Just asking like.

Our freedoms are being whittled down though, of that there can be no doubt. We are monitored and observed in the UK constantly. Individual responsibility is being removed slowly but surely.

**meepho** · 18-12-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Indeed, isn't a denier someone who denies something? In order to ascertain whether they are a denier, isn't it doubtlessly due to them having expressed their denial at some point? Just asking like.

Our freedoms are being whittled down though, of that there can be no doubt. We are monitored and observed in the UK constantly. Individual responsibility is being removed slowly but surely.

You are correct, about the denial, it was the way it was put forward by HH, it was as if how dare they not agree with my point of view.

I thought in my lttle head, soon it could be classed alongside deniers of the holocaust, deniers of climate change.

To disagree with an issue, is not the same as to deny.

you can disagree with statistics, and somewhat understand the the magnitude of the issue.

If you deny the issue then that is the end of the debate.

**Happyman** · 18-12-2009, 01:25 AM

Presented a paper at a work related conference in Singapore last year - ended with a Q & A session- went down well except for one - and i'm not being racist here- Afro American who by his question had absloutely no concept of how the industry worked ( insurance) and was there as a freelance 'By- line' writer for an obscure trade magazine.

Afterwards I was interviewed by a journalist from a UK newspaper and mentioned the silly question that was asked
She asked me who asked it ?
I had no idea who he was so I said ' the black american' Which he was !
She threw a 'hissyfit' called me a racist and that was the end of the interview !!

WTF ???

If a Chinaman refers to me as a 'guilo' (sp), or my African workers, in the past,
called me 'the white man ' - 'gringo' in South America - it never bothered me.

So in my opinion the whole PC thing is a load of bollo*ks and only offends people who have nothing better to do !!

**Missismiggins** · 18-12-2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

As far as the OP goes, it is a rambling piece of crap. I didn't bother finishing it. I think he is trying to compare 'PCness' to Marxist Dialectic Materialism.

It's about as coherent as a book from a guy called Jonah Goldberg that came out last year, that said Nazism was Socialist. I think he got the idea from the fact that Nazy is an acronym for 'National Socialist'.

You didn't bother finishing it!
This is exactly what I am on about, complete apathy! It is indeed about PCness and Marxism, (I don't know how old you are, but if you were born in the '60's, we had hour upon hour of TV docs, and news showing us the evils of Russia, the KGB, the Eastern Bloc, the thought police, how you would be imprisoned for "Thinking" against the state!) Films from China showing kids beaten for having long hair etc.

All this is starting to happen in the so called "free countries", they are banning free speech and free thought under the guise of "Equal Rights" and "Hate" crimes, it will not be long until the internet is policed too, it already is..take a look at the Thai Govt. banning websites, the USA is passing "hate Crime" laws that cover the internet...when will it stop? When we are all afraid to comment?

You need to go and read a bit of George Orwell, and Alexander Solzhenitsyn...then take a look at was is happening around us. (but be carefull, they are actually books, and take a bit of time to read, not a ten minute blog by an Ex US Military Commander, that you were unable to finish,)

US Hate Law Encourages International Enforcement

By the time the average person wakes up to what is happening, they will be gagged and bound and unable to do anything about it, the laws will have been passed before the public even realise it..then we will be fucked!

Apathy will truly be our downfall!

And as for any posts from Robertson, he neither reads anything that is posted, in a true "liberal fashion" and fits the description of a liberal perfectly, they will not argue, they will not look at facts, they have their minds cast in stone, it will be their downfall.

Definition of a racist - someone that is winning an argument with a liberal!

They refuse to accept facts and bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich, shouting "HATE" "RACIST" instead of providing any input.

I have posted page upon page of links and facts and arguments...can you find one single coherrent response other than name calling!

These people will constantly attack every post without providing any contrary evidence, they will constantly ask you to provide links and verification, that they won't even bother to look at, they will then continuouslly harp back to their original rhetoric.

They can't even be arsed to go and do their own digging on the internet.

this is quite interesting...

From a poor sucker that was jailed under section 18 of the British Laws of Freedom! (He was an MP and a military guy...)

How Wars Are Made | Index

**Missismiggins** · 18-12-2009, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Happyman

Presented a paper at a work related conference in Singapore last year - ended with a Q & A session- went down well except for one - and i'm not being racist here- Afro American who by his question had absloutely no concept of how the industry worked ( insurance) and was there as a freelance 'By- line' writer for an obscure trade magazine.

Afterwards I was interviewed by a journalist from a UK newspaper and mentioned the silly question that was asked
She asked me who asked it ?
I had no idea who he was so I said ' the black american' Which he was !
She threw a 'hissyfit' called me a racist and that was the end of the interview !!

WTF ???

If a Chinaman refers to me as a 'guilo' (sp), or my African workers, in the past,
called me 'the white man ' - 'gringo' in South America - it never bothered me.

So in my opinion the whole PC thing is a load of bollo*ks and only offends people who have nothing better to do !!

Just look at your opening post! you mention a work related topic, but you are already "WORRIED" by the PCness of referring to an African American, you are already having to justify yourself as "Not Racist" just by using the words "African American"..it is a perfectly rational statement, it is NOT racist, the fucker could not understand, it doesn't matter what colour he is, thick is thick!

If you had posted "This dumb ass fucking retard nigger" fair enough...but you politely describe him as an African American, whatever that is...he's either an African or an American, I fail to see how he can be both...which side of the fence is he on.

I don't class myself as an English Thai, I don't here many Pakistanis Scotsmen, why do we have to have African Americans...do they visit Africa a lot on welfare?

Is there some sort of special passport they carry that states African American...what do they fill in on their job applications? isn't all this a bit confusing?

Can I ask you a question, was the UK reporter an African?

I bet 100 dollars that they were white!

It is these fucking idiots that are putting the words into the mouths of minorities and stirring this kind of shit. In some misguided crusade to do their bit! They would do better to keep their fucking noses out!

**Missismiggins** · 18-12-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by meepho

You are quite correct our freedoms are being dimished, i have mentioned before on other threads.

How, exactly? Any examples?

deniers

Semantics; they were still able to express their views were they not.

YOU need to crawl back into whichever box you crawled out of, you are a complete fucking idiot, you never read anything, you never discuss anything, you are practically a retard.

you will obviously be a good contender for public office in the UK, stand for MP or PM, as that is the way it is going.

You are unable to defend an argument, unable to disseminate information in a rational manner, you are basically FUCKED.

Thankfully, if Darwin (as I am sure he will) be proved correct, your bloodline and genes will be cast by the wayside in a few years.

you will probably post your reply when you get back from the bar you just shat in!

I hate to get into this personal insult shit, but some people are really beyond help!

They tend to irritate like a fucking Tick, and contribute nothing. Every single post from you is antagonistic...do you flay yourself each night in a personal Jihad?

You never ever have a positive statement, you constantly deride and try to belittle other posters, without offerring a single valuable contribution to a single thread!

**AntRobertson** · 18-12-2009, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by meepho

You are quite correct our freedoms are being dimished, i have mentioned before on other threads.

How, exactly? Any examples?

deniers

Semantics; they were still able to express their views were they not.

YOU need to crawl back into whichever box you crawled out of, you are a complete fucking idiot, you never read anything, you never discuss anything, you are practically a retard.

you will obviously be a good contender for public office in the UK, stand for MP or PM, as that is the way it is going.

You are unable to defend an argument, unable to disseminate information in a rational manner, you are basically FUCKED.

Thankfully, if Darwin (as I am sure he will) be proved correct, your bloodline and genes will be cast by the wayside in a few years.

you will probably post your reply when you get back from the bar you just shat in!

I hate to get into this personal insult shit, but some people are really beyond help!

They tend to irritate like a fucking Tick, and contribute nothing. Every single post from you is antagonistic...do you flay yourself each night in a personal Jihad?

You never ever have a positive statement, you constantly deride and try to belittle other posters, without offerring a single valuable contribution to a single thread!

...

So you don't have any examples then?

**keda** · 19-12-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

...I hate to get into this personal insult shit, but some people are really beyond help!

**Marmite the Dog** · 19-12-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Maybe take a look here, this is Britain!

From snapshot to Special Branch: how my camera made me a terror suspect | UK news | guardian.co.uk

Jail for ‘courageous’ Munir Hussain who beat intruder with cricket bat - Times Online

And the problem is what? That the law was followed to the letter or the fact that you don't like the laws?

**Boon Mee** · 19-12-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Happyman

So in my opinion the whole PC thing is a load of bollo*ks and only offends people who have nothing better to do !!

Abso-fuckin'-lutely...

**Happyman** · 19-12-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I bet 100 dollars that they were white!

Looks like I owe you 100$

**Missismiggins** · 19-12-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Happyman

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I bet 100 dollars that they were white!

Looks like I owe you 100$

Seeing it's Christmas, go and buy yourself, (or your wife or kids) a present for 100$, I don't want to claim it, I thought as much though, bet you didn't get many Afro Americans coming to give you PC shit.

**Missismiggins** · 19-12-2009, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Maybe take a look here, this is Britain!

From snapshot to Special Branch: how my camera made me a terror suspect | UK news | guardian.co.uk

Jail for ‘courageous’ Munir Hussain who beat intruder with cricket bat - Times Online

And the problem is what? That the law was followed to the letter or the fact that you don't like the laws?

The problem IS the laws...who the fuck passed these laws??? Not the people!

Taking fucking photos!! are you MAD... jesus, this is what is wrong with society, supporting these kind of insane laws!

What would YOU do if someone broke into your home, tied up your family and threatened to kill them? Sit on the sofa and give them a fucking tube of Vaseline to fuck them up the arse before they fucked you???

Maybe get your camera out...christ, some of you people seem to defend the fucking perpetrators more than you would your own familes! UNFUCKINBELIEVABLE!!

You know, the US constitution was written out so that when the Government got to the point that it no longer represented the people, the people were FREE to take up arms and overthrow the no longer "representative" government.

The laws on these matter in the Uk have BYPASSED the people, probably most of the people are in SHOCK! But the fucking sad thing is... they DO NOTHING!

You can get jailed for whacking some twat for molesting and robbing your family, and I know the bloke was not a WHITEY... so believe me I am not a RACIST, he should have been given a fucking medal for removing SHIT from the street that the police could not.

Imagine the ridiculous laws in the US, where a fucking burglar can SUE you if he hurts himself in your home...who do you think are behind these laws? Average Americans... NEVER, fucking fat wallet JEW lawyers and lawmakers!

I cannot see in a million years how you can defend any of this...someone here is a fucking idiot, we can leave that to be decided!

**AntRobertson** · 19-12-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

...so believe me I am not a RACIST...fucking fat wallet JEW lawyers and lawmakers...

Uh huh.

**Missismiggins** · 19-12-2009, 08:25 PM

What actually would be interesting, if someone knows how to do it, is set up a poll here, and ask the following questions (sorry my forum skills would just fuck it up)

1: Should Killing an intruder in your house be honoured with a Jail Term or a medal?

2: Should Muslims/Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) that commit crimes be repatriated?

3: Should Muslims/Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) that practice HATE against the indigenous people of the host country be repatriated?

4: Should the UK reintroduce the DEATH sentence, for particularly offensive crimes (you know like for fucking kids, and killing babies on fires and the like)

I'd be interested to see that as an UK referendum!

you know my views, YES to everyone!

you will notice that absolutely no one will set up this poll! 100% It is a bit too taboo for the thinking here!

**AjarnJonesy** · 21-12-2009, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

What actually would be interesting, if someone knows how to do it, is set up a poll here, and ask the following questions (sorry my forum skills would just fuck it up)

1: Should Killing an intruder in your house be honoured with a Jail Term or a medal?

2: Should Muslims/Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) that commit crimes be repatriated?

3: Should Muslims/Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) that practice HATE against the indigenous people of the host country be repatriated?

4: Should the UK reintroduce the DEATH sentence, for particularly offensive crimes (you know like for fucking kids, and killing babies on fires and the like)

I'd be interested to see that as an UK referendum!

you know my views, YES to everyone!

you will notice that absolutely no one will set up this poll! 100% It is a bit too taboo for the thinking here!

If I can figure it out I will be be more than happy to set up the poll...

**sabang** · 21-12-2009, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

2: Should Muslims/Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) that commit crimes be repatriated?

3: Should Muslims/Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) that practice HATE against the indigenous people of the host country be repatriated?

Muslims/.Blacks/Asians (foreigners in general) fall into several categories-
British citizens
British legal residents
Asylum applicants being processed
Illegal Immigrants
Visitors to the UK

How they are treated according to the law, specifically regarding deportation, would be according to their resident status, and in some cases the Diplomatic and Legal status with relationship to their country of origin.

Hate crime legislation already exists.

As far as my views on 'Holocaust denial' are concerned, ridiculous though it is, I do not think it should be a crime as such. No more than the 'hate all the Muzzies' bile you can read on TD. This sort of rhetoric only becomes criminal in my book when it crosses the line to be an incitement to criminality- such as 'Kill all the Muzzies/ Jews/ Gypsies'.

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