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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    WW1 and WW2 where the Christians tried to annihilate each other. All very civilized.
    How fucking wrong can you be and still breathe, those were fought by most of the world, thats why they were called World Wars #1&#2, and not christians, but citizens of the world, Christians, Buda, Muzzies, Hebes and Athiests
    But were actually started by Limeys and Krauts Which is the Church Of England and the Catholics,,same assholes as started the Crusades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
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    Can't we just let them kill each other then wade in later and kill what's left.
    World Muslim population is about 1.8 billion. It's going to take some well planned solutions to finally rid the world of the Muslim threat.
    Agreed.

    The Muslim population growth will be very bad for the world, IMO.

    Culturally, it could mean Earth is a "Muslim" planet for the most part.

    Middle East, and parts of Africa and Indoesia and Malaysia? I don't care.

    Europe? I do care. North America? I do care.

    Cultural devolution. Sharia law? Veils and burkas.
    ............

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    Muslims stinks


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    But were actually started by Limeys and Krauts Which is the Church Of England and the Catholics,,same assholes as started the Crusades.
    I guess one out of two correct is pretty good for you BG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    How fucking wrong can you be and still breathe, those were fought by most of the world, thats why they were called World Wars #1, and not christians, but citizens of the world, Christians, Buda, Muzzies, Hebes and Athiests But were actually started by Limeys and Krauts Which is the Church Of England and the Catholics,,same assholes as started the Crusades.
    Little selective on what part of a quote there ain't ya dude? Which one out of 2 do you mean.

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    Originally Posted by blackgang But were actually started by Limeys and Krauts Which is the Church Of England and the Catholics,,same assholes as started the Crusades
    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen
    I guess one out of two correct is pretty good for you BG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    But were actually started by Limeys and Krauts Which is the Church Of England and the Catholics,,same assholes as started the Crusades.
    I guess one out of two correct is pretty good for you BG.
    Well, not quite as he even got the Catholics part partially wrong . . . but then getting 25% is still a step up for the old fella

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    BG put your reading glasses on. I bolded and underlined the two I meant.
    Here's a clue; Krauts was correct.

    You do know how WW II started don't you? It's taught in all the schools.

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    Bob Dillon said it well.

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    I know, but after the Japs bombed then there was a bunch of folks declaring on other folks and seeing as how we had helped the Limeys out of the other one, we went in their country and set up some shit going out of there to help them out and Germany declared war on us too, Plus the limeys was crying and blowing snot about how we should help them as well as furnish every fucking that they wanted to fight with, so you see how it is don't you.
    If they had not been in it then we would not have had Germany declare war on us.

    But thats OK I guess as if we would not have moved in and helped the Brits out, and the Japs would not have bomber Pearl Harbor, then we would be the only country speaking English while you guys over there would be speaking Kraut and the others be speaking Jap.

    But then too, if my dad had not went over there then he would not have had that gold and jewels from there and those fine guns that he brought home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    I know, but after the Japs bombed then there was a bunch of folks declaring on other folks and seeing as how we had helped the Limeys out of the other one, we went in their country and set up some shit going out of there to help them out and Germany declared war on us too, Plus the limeys was crying and blowing snot about how we should help them as well as furnish every fucking that they wanted to fight with, so you see how it is don't you.
    If they had not been in it then we would not have had Germany declare war on us.

    But thats OK I guess as if we would not have moved in and helped the Brits out, and the Japs would not have bomber Pearl Harbor, then we would be the only country speaking English while you guys over there would be speaking Kraut and the others be speaking Jap.



    But then too, if my dad had not went over there then he would not have had that gold and jewels from there and those fine guns that he brought home.
    Actually, it was the German submarines sinking the US supply ships to Britain that got USA into the European theatre of conflict in WW2. And the best thing the Japs ever did was to bomb Pearl Harbour. Otherwise the Yanks would have been sitting on the sidelines waiting to back the winner. Nice to have friends when you need em. A good thing USA had a few more people with a bit more backbone than BG back then or the Yanks would have probably sat the whole thing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    A good thing USA had a few more people with a bit more backbone than BG back then or the Yanks would have probably sat the whole thing out.
    Have you got an Honorable discharge from a military service Pandy?
    I do, and you are sure a bunch different from the Aussie friends I had in Nam too,
    And if it was not for the USA, you would have been raised to speak Jap too, you do know that don't you?

    And it was not sinking those concrete ships Kaiser built, but Germany declared war on US when we declared war on Japan.
    Well that and Churchill wanting to give FDR a blow job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    I know, but after the Japs bombed then there was a bunch of folks declaring on other folks and seeing as how we had helped the Limeys out of the other one, we went in their country and set up some shit going out of there to help them out and Germany declared war on us too, Plus the limeys was crying and blowing snot about how we should help them as well as furnish every fucking that they wanted to fight with, so you see how it is don't you.
    If they had not been in it then we would not have had Germany declare war on us.

    But thats OK I guess as if we would not have moved in and helped the Brits out, and the Japs would not have bomber Pearl Harbor, then we would be the only country speaking English while you guys over there would be speaking Kraut and the others be speaking Jap.

    But then too, if my dad had not went over there then he would not have had that gold and jewels from there and those fine guns that he brought home.
    Wrong answer BG.

    The correct answer is Germany invaded Poland.

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    But thats OK I guess as if we would not have moved in and helped the Brits out, and the Japs would not have bomber Pearl Harbor, then we would be the only country speaking English while you guys over there would be speaking Kraut and the others be speaking Jap.
    Are Yanks spoon-fed this nonsense from birth or something.

    Perhaps it's to assurge their guilt and shame at sitting on their hands on the sidelines whilst everyone else was fighting for what was right. Gawd knows that according to Hollywood WW2 only started in 1943.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen
    The correct answer is Germany invaded Poland.
    Wrong,, thats the reason that England jumped in, if they would have minded their own business then the krauts would hot have tried to level London.
    And we would not have had to loan them all that money for buying all that stuff from US. Then we had to help them out as they was losing their ass and we would never have got our money back if the krauts had took em over.

    You remember I was alive and well in the US when all this shit came down, young but i was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    The American Civil war was pretty nasty. Over half a million dead. Wasn't that long ago in historical terms either. Good Christians with God on their side fighting each other for political reasons. And of course there was that couple of little things called WW1 and WW2 where the Christians tried to annihilate each other. All very civilized.
    How in the fuck can you equate these vicious Islamo suicide car bombers who deliberately target women, children and innocent people with any wars?

    Has your liberal myopia caused that much brain damage? Jeezus!

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    Basically Islam is waging a war on freedom.


    https://www.youtube.com/user/patconde...15/JIq7tsVvEoY

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Wrong,, thats the reason that England jumped in, if they would have minded their own business then the krauts would hot have tried to level London.
    And we would not have had to loan them all that money for buying all that stuff from US. Then we had to help them out as they was losing their ass and we would never have got our money back if the krauts had took em over.

    You remember I was alive and well in the US when all this shit came down, young but i was there.
    You might have been there, but, it doesn't bestow you any greater insight into the war.

    What kind of future do you think the UK would of had with the whole of the European mainland under the Nazi jack-boot? Do you really think that Hitler wouldn't have cast his eyes across the Channel?

    By declaring war on Germany for the invasion of Poland, the UK was fulfilling it's obligations.

    What would you think if the USA was invaded and all the other NATO countries said "sorry, you're on your own"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen
    What would you think if the USA was invaded and all the other NATO countries said "sorry, you're on your own"?
    The US would lose because BG lives in Thailand . . .
    And as for:

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    You remember I was alive and well in the US when all this shit came down
    What a simpleton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen
    By declaring war on Germany for the invasion of Poland, the UK was fulfilling it's obligations. What would you think if the USA was invaded and all the other NATO countries said "sorry, you're on your own"?
    Yes, because GB had signed a partnership with Poland, but Hitler had done the same thing with Russia, so no go there.
    And there was no UN at that time so we were not obligated to jump in anyone else fight, and since Korean Police action, the UN has done shit.
    And "What If" Hitler does not count.
    And why is it always THE USA, damned if they do and damned if they don't.
    Where was UN during Samalia? where is UN now, US has thousands of troops in battle and how many hundred has the rest of the world got? not many I have heard of.
    Where was UN during Nam,, damn few Aussies in Nam and no one else.
    Where was you, under mama's bed.

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    The sheer magnitude and utter completness of your ignorance is breathtaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Where was UN during Nam,, damn few Aussies in Nam and no one else.
    Oh, is that why you Lost. I thought it was Jane Fonda and the Hippies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Yes, because GB had signed a partnership with Poland, but Hitler had done the same thing with Russia, so no go there.
    You are refering to the Molotov - Ribbentrop pact, which was secret. Anyway, what has that got to do with the UK fulfilling it's obligations?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    And there was no UN at that time so we were not obligated to jump in anyone else fight, and since Korean Police action, the UN has done shit..
    Errm.....the USA didn't jump in. It wasn't until Pearl harbour and Hitler's declaration of war did the USA finally get in.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    And "What If" Hitler does not count.
    Of course it does. Before WW II started, Hitler took over the Saarland, then pretty much dismembered Czechoslovakia. He wasn't going to stop at just Europe. He attacked Russia. Do you really think he would have left the UK on it's own?

    Have to agree with Ant. Your ignorance of WW II is on par with a primary school kid.
    "Being there" doesn't count. Reading books does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen
    Have to agree with Ant. Your ignorance of WW II is on par with a primary school kid.
    Sad, isn't it . . .


    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Where was UN during Samalia?
    Saving your soldier's arses . . . Remember this:

    Blackhawk Down . . . US soldiers saved by, among others, Pakistani and Malaysian forces . . . two Muslim countries saving your guy's lives!!!!!!

    On October 3, 1993, Task Force Ranger, U.S. Special Operations Forces composed mainly of Bravo Company 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D; better known as “Delta Force”) operators, and aviation support from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) (“The Night Stalkers”), attempted to capture Aidid's foreign minister, Omar Salad Elmi, and his top political advisor, Mohamed Hassan Awale.[15]
    That's a lot of Rangers here, Delta Forces there, Airborne everywhere . . . arses kicked by some rag-tag thugs.

    Awe-inspiring, Hollywood-idolised, chest-thumping forces designations . . . in the end just soldiers . . . saved by Muslims!
    Early the next morning, a combined task force was sent to rescue the trapped soldiers. It contained soldiers from Pakistan, Malaysia, and the U.S. 10th Mountain Division. They assembled some 100 vehicles, including Pakistani tanks (M48s) and Malaysian Condor armored personnel carriers, and were supported by U.S. A/MH-6 Little Bird, and UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters. This task force reached the first crash site and led the trapped soldiers out.
    Read it an weep, Wheezy . . .

    Will you reply to this?
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    I think the Somali incident was the US at it's pragmatic best actually. They got the hell out of there, left 'em to it- and made a profitable action movie from it!

    When you look at the various revenues streams that were spent on, and then accrued from the Movie, I bet it exceeds the GDP of bladdy Somalia anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Oh, is that why you Lost. I thought it was Jane Fonda and the Hippies.
    We didn't lose in Nam,, we signed a peace accord in Paris and had combat troops out of RSVN in 1972, in 1975 the NVA took over the south.
    We did evacuate the Embassy and did evacuate a lot of RSVN citizens at that time.
    Should never have been in Somalia in the first place and with such a small number of troops anyway, if you are not going in to win, then don't go in at all, same with Iraq and afganistan.
    If you are going in and just kill certain people then go in Black, if you go in to win a war then kill everyone in front of you.
    Hitler did that and as this thread proves, people think he would have won without the weight of the US troops, but you say he was wrong, but he won up until we entered, and thats what war is about.
    And as you all have also proved, You can not fight and win a war being civilized.

    so let that be a lesson to you, you can't be a gentleman, you have to be the meanest dog in the fight. and if you can not do that then keep your ass on the porch.

    They have already proved that in Iraq, we did no good, only killed Saddam, and last week in one day they killed 127 people in Baghdad, we have lost a number of troops there for no reason and the same goes for Afghan, we will leave there without ever doing one ounce of good and they will continue to kill there as if we had neved dumped all the lives and money..
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