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    As far as I'm concerned all the US news media outlets suffer from sensationalism sprinkled with way to much op ed crap. Fox and MSNBC being the worst offenders. The only way to avoid the noise is to use non US news sources to get some semblance of unbiased news.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    The only way to avoid the noise is to use non US news sources to get some semblance of unbiased news.
    555555 What, the BBC? Al Jazeera, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    It is not about show hosts speaking at events, it is about a FOX producer apparently whipping the crowd up for the cameras thereby getting too close to making news rather than just reporting it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    I've seen it done at leftie rallies, too.
    bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    The only way to avoid the noise is to use non US news sources to get some semblance of unbiased news.
    have you watched news hour with jim lehrer on PBS?

    you can download free on the PBS website or via itunes.

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    ^ Jet, do you seriously think that the BBC exhibits more bias in reporting than FOX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    Jet, do you seriously think
    stop right there and ask yourself whether or not that which follows (or whatever may follow) is a fair question.

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    Shepard Smith apologized for a "lack of balance" on a story aired during his Fox News show today. Reporter Shannon Bream was covering the campaign for governor in New Jersey when she snagged an interview with the Republican candidate Chris Christie, but when Smith asked her when she would interview the the Democratic candidate, and current Governor, Jon Corzine, Bream replied, "We have in multiple requests, and when it comes in, we'll let you know."

    Smith was not happy to hear that: "Wow. I didn't know that was about to happen. My apologies for the lack of balance there. If I'd had control it wouldn't have happened."



    Read more at: Shep Smith Apologizes For "Lack Of Balance" In Fox News Report (VIDEO)

    Fox having been called on it's obvious bias I have no problem with, indeed it was the correct thing to do. Two of Fox' headline talk show hosts are Hannity and Beck, and then their is 'Fox and friends' and so on- there is no crime or disingenuity in declaring the obvious. The Right have been bleating about media bias for years, except in their case mostly nonsense- but some isn't. Now the moderates do, and the squeals of protest from the Fox crowd are amusing to behold.

    The WH did declare the obvious- that not only 'We', but the majority of the People know exactly where they are coming from. It seems to have gotten the Fox crowd- both the insiders and the faithful Unwashed- in a tizzy. Thats good too. It will likely lead to some tightening of standards there overall.

    But there is no 'war on Fox', and there is little point in having a war on Fox. They are their own caricature. MSNBC has Keith Olbermann- he can be provocative too, with a leftie slant. I suppose the Fox crowds vociferousness is psychologically manifesting their current powerlessness, the knowledge that they are sidelined. They have their right to vent, within the loose rein of laws that apply to slander and libel, and incitement to violence- which Beck, in particular, flirts somewhat- but so what, it's only Glen Beck. Hardly a visionary, hardly a formidable intellect. The only visionary that Fox has is the Dirty Digger- repeating the sensationalist appeal to disgruntlement that he was succesful with in print media.

    I think Fox makes a fair point in differentiating their rabid commentators, and their more credible (albeit still biased) news reporting. Some of them are embarassed by the Hannity & Becks too, you can be sure. Shep Smith, as per the cut n paste above, is an example.

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    I think they should split that channel in two, one with boring news, and one with those funny commentators. Maybe they could share airtime with Cartoon Network or Comedy Central.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    have you watched news hour with jim lehrer on PBS?
    Unfortunately no. Lehrer was always a fav but no TV here. Several programs I would like to see via internet but Isaan internet to slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    have you watched news hour with jim lehrer on PBS?
    Unfortunately no. Lehrer was always a fav but no TV here. Several programs I would like to see via internet but Isaan internet to slow.
    i don't know how slow the connection is in isaan, but you can download specific audio files from the broadcast that are usually about 6- 10 MB.

    Online NewsHour: Subscriptions | Podcasts / Audio Downloads | PBS


    btw, i shouldn't have used 'watched' in my iniital post....i download the audio files...in fact, i don't even know if video is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    "We have in multiple requests, and when it comes in, we'll let you know."

    Smith was not happy to hear that: "Wow. I didn't know that was about to happen. My apologies for the lack of balance there. If I'd had control it wouldn't have happened."
    That's the whole problem. The libbies will not give Fox interviews. The libbies run away.

    Hey, and how about this libbie Grayson calling a chick a whore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post

    i don't know how slow the connection is in isaan, but you can download specific audio files from the broadcast that are usually about 6- 10 MB.
    You must be joking? 'News Hour' with Jim Leher is about the most dry, boring crap even presented live let alone downloading some files to watch second-hand. They shouldn't let liberals out of their respective countries to infect the local population...

    ...in fact, there should be a bounty on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    What, the BBC? Al Jazeera, maybe.
    BBC, not much. Al Jazeera, book marked and I check it daily. They report significant news items without op ed comment.

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    Al Jazeera is quite good actually, staffed with former CNN reporters

    definitely a good source of news,

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    Yes, but the mere name frightens off people of a particular persuasion . . . I mean, how can anything be unbiased that carries a Middle East name . . .

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    ^ Thats why you can hardly even get Al Jazeera in the USA. It's ridiculous.
    I'm a regular browser on their web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I find it really amusing that you people ... think that anyone who does not agree with your particular ideas should be shot in the head
    You're casting a very wide net there . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I find it really amusing that you people ... think that anyone who does not agree with your particular ideas should be shot in the head
    You're casting a very wide net there . . .

    Not a wide net I was responding to a certain individual, who seems to think there is no room for opposing the liberal crowd. Last time I checked people were free to beleive as they see fit, which is exactly why that individual has the freedom to express his opinion, but not the right to suggest we kill the opposition, as long as they present there points in a non violent manner.

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    Daily Kos: State of the Nation

    there's a video (with Jon Stewart) on the page/link above that tells you all you need to know about FOX

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Daily Kos: State of the Nation

    there's a video (with Jon Stewart) on the page/link above that tells you all you need to know about FOX
    Sure, Jon Stewart, the comedian? Get a grip. And the Daily Kos? 5555555555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Sure, Jon Stewart, the comedian? Get a grip.
    yeah, imagine that. someone posting a link to what an entertainer thinks about a political issue.

    hey jet, now that i think about it......why not give us another link to what the actor morgan freeman thinks about some political issue




    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    the Daily Kos?
    certainly no more partisan than the crap you link to: worldnetdaily, newsbusters, fox, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    a thread started specifically to further expose the bias of fox 'news'.

    not necessarily the antics and histrionics of its hosts but also how they skew their 'reporting' at all hours of the day.
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    most people reading this thread are well aware that health care is arguably the biggest domestic issue in the US right now, and that it is being endlessly debated in the media.

    fox recently had Dr. David McKalip on as an 'expert' to give analysis on the health care debate.

    and who is mckalip? he's the guy who admitted to circulating this image:



    Racist Email Doc Resurfaces as Expert

    fox: fair and balanced?




    anyway, there are scores of other examples which prove that fox is highly partisan and shouldn't be considered as a legitimate news organization....and this is the place to post the evidence and your commentary.
    It's definitely ethnic.


    If Obama had been dressed in white coat with a stethoscope around his neck like a western doctor, would that have been racist?


    Oh, Derrida, it seems that the real problem is the bigotry of leftists who upon having their outrage deconstructed are shown to have a very low and dismissive opinion of African traditional medicine.

    I suggest leftists get in touch with their own racism. Make yourselves aware of it, digest it and then strengthen yourselves through self-criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post


    It's definitely ethnic.
    that photoshopped image is undeniably racist. (the accompanying text is simply moronic)

    and it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you don't see it as such.


    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    the real problem is the bigotry of leftists who upon having their outrage deconstructed are shown to have a very low and dismissive opinion of African traditional medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    It's definitely ethnic.


    If Obama had been dressed in white coat with a stethoscope around his neck like a western doctor, would that have been racist?


    Oh, Derrida, it seems that the real problem is the bigotry of leftists who upon having their outrage deconstructed are shown to have a very low and dismissive opinion of African traditional medicine.

    I suggest leftists get in touch with their own racism. Make yourselves aware of it, digest it and then strengthen yourselves through self-criticism.
    That you even have to ask that question really only serves to illustrate how clueless you are.

    Almost as laughable as trying to turn your own ignorance and bigotry around and blame it on 'leftists' and/or 'PC'.

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    atta just comes across as another racist,

    is he American ? then that's settle it then

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