Thread: FOX "news"

Just opened a link posted here earlier . . . fair and balanced:

The poll gives you a wide range of options:


The White House is still attacking Fox News, 10 days after its original comments. Why?



They want to shoot the messenger
They don’t have a good case to make
They confuse News and Opinion
I don't know


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Originally Posted by panama hat

Just opened a link posted here earlier . . . fair and balanced:
The poll gives you a wide range of options:
The White House is still attacking Fox News, 10 days after its original comments.

and how about the wording used in the poll question...."still attacking".

fair and balanced?

They really are trying to hammer home the 'Us and Them' divide.


Divide and conquer, as old as time itself

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

Did he realise the site he quoted from (The Peoples Cube) was a piss take? Probably not, but the point for him is it got a reaction. Boon Mee is an agent provocoteur and a good one at that, and unlike a lot of the loony fringe on here he doesn't get nasty or hold grudges... so carry on Boon.

I'd agree . . . as onerous it is to read his stuff at times there is always an underlying possibility that he is just taking the piss . . . and that deflates your ire.

I got a bit peeved at him a while back, and his response just made me have to eat humble pie . . . the prick!

Lets look at Fox successes, and failures-

Success- van Jones

Failure-
HC reform
Sotomayor
Obamas nomination
Obamas election to the Presidency
McCains nomination as the GOP candidate

Go easy on them, they're having a hard time.

It's less about that FOX News or MSNBC or CNN are biased (although they certainly are).

The salient point here is that FOX News created, organized and promoted street demonstrations against the US government. That makes them a special interest/advocacy group and not a legitmate news organization. End of.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Post 2258 in the president obama thread, Babes!

Oh that. Actually I laughed at it, I thought it was pretty funny tbh.

Wrong imho, but still funny.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Think of Hannity, for example. Just watch and listen to him.

No, thank you . . . though it will be funny to see him run or President as God had told him . . . mind you, watching him be waterboarded would be fun as well . . . seeing as he said it is harmless and wouldn't mind having it done to him

This article below does relate to FOX news, and FOX is in the article. CNN, a FOX competitor has slipped to 4th. I assume that the internet has changed the dynamics of TV news.

Link:
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...news-networks/

October 26, 2009
CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks
By Bill Carter

Paul Hawthorne/Getty Images

CNN’s Anderson Cooper CNN, which invented the cable news network more than two decades ago, will hit a new competitive low with its prime-time programs in October, finishing fourth – and last – among the cable news networks with the audience that all the networks rely on for their advertising.

The official monthly numbers will be finalized at 4 p.m. Monday and will include results from Friday. CNN executives conceded that will not change the competitive standing for the month. CNN will still be last in prime time.

That means CNN’s programs were behind not only Fox News and MSNBC, but even its own sister network HLN (formerly Headline News.) That was the first time CNN had finished that poorly with its prime-time shows.

Fox News’ Bill O’ReillyThe results demonstrate once more the apparent preference of viewers for opinion-oriented shows from the news networks in prime time.

CNN has steered opinion hosts like Nancy Grace to HLN, while maintaining more news-oriented shows on CNN itself. When news events are not being intensely followed, CNN executives acknowledge, viewers seem to be looking for partisan views more than objective coverage.

Individually, the CNN shows were beaten resoundingly by all the Fox News programs, but also lost to all of the MSNBC programs, including a repeat of Keith Olbermann’s 8 p.m. edition of “Countdown,” which beat the 10 p.m. hour of CNN’s signature prime-time program, “Anderson Cooper 360.”
Again that was a first.

Mr. Cooper had 211,000 viewers to 223,000 for Mr. Olbermann’s repeat. That meant Mr. Cooper finished fourth and last in the 10 p.m. hour because, besides being well behind the leader, Greta Van Susteren, who had 538,000 viewers, he was also beaten by a repeat of Nancy Grace’s 8 p.m. show on HLN, which averaged 222,000.

MSNBC’s Keith OlbermanFor the month, CNN averaged 202,000 viewers between the ages of 25 and 54 – the group that television news organizations use as their basis of success because of their advertising sales. That was far behind the dominant leader, Fox News, which averaged 689,000. But it also trailed MSNBC, which had 250,000 viewers in that group and HLN, which had 221,000.

The only CNN show from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. that did not finish last was Larry King, which was third, ahead of the new Joy Behar show on HLN. But Sean Hannity’s show on Fox News had a huge lead with 659,000 viewers in that age group. Second was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC with 242,000.
Mr. King averaged 224,000 and Ms. Behar 181,000.

At 7 p.m. CNN’s host, Lou Dobbs was fourth, barely beaten by Jane Velez Mitchell on HLN, 166,000 to 162,000. The big winner was Shepard Smith on Fox with 465,000 viewers. Second was Chris Matthews and “Hardball” on MSNBC, with 179,000 viewers.

HLN’s Nancy GraceCNN’s performance was worst in the 8 p.m. hour. Bill O’Reilly on Fox News continued his long dominance with the biggest numbers of any host, 881,000 viewers. Mr. Olbermann, with his first-run program, was second with 295,000. Close behind was the first edition of Ms. Grace’s show with 269,000. Campbell Brown on CNN trailed with only 162,000.

CNN executives emphasized that the network continues to draw more viewers than all its competitors except Fox News when all hours of the day are counted.

CNN released a statement Monday saying, “CNN’s ratings are always going to be more dependent on the news environment, much more so than opinion-based programming especially in prime time.”

I can see why Fox and MSNBC beat out CNN during prime time. I think Anderson Cooper comes off as an effete lightweight. The son of fashion designer Gloria Vanderbilt has the air of priviliged scion who got where he is because of his family connections. Frankly, I think Americans prefer news people to be a little more down to earth.

^ Vanderbilt is an impressive surname to have esspecially in New York.

CNN is really lame though, they have been playing the party line under GW Bush with the Iraq War disaster, so I guess nobody believe them anymore

Originally Posted by sabang

Lets look at Fox successes, and failures-

Success- van Jones

Failure-
HC reform
Sotomayor
Obamas nomination
Obamas election to the Presidency
McCains nomination as the GOP candidate

Go easy on them, they're having a hard time.

ACORN, debate over healthcare, Obama's lack of achievements, Admin's attacks. These are all things not reported on other networks. I see you lefties getting more intense and vicious as you see how bad Obama's presidency is becoming.

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

The salient point here is that FOX News created, organized and promoted street demonstrations against the US government. That makes them a special interest/advocacy group and not a legitmate news organization. End of.

Really? Linkies? Fox reported on the tea parties, it did not create them.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Really? Linkies? Fox reported on the tea parties, it did not create them.

Sean Hannity regularly announced and promoted locations and dates for the Tea Party events. Fox producers were seen winding up the crowds for the cameras. It's pretty clear that Fox played a big role in creating the news in this situation.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Sean Hannity regularly announced and promoted locations and dates for the Tea Party events. Fox producers were seen winding up the crowds for the cameras. It's pretty clear that Fox played a big role in creating the news in this situation.

If you can't report the news . . . might as well make it up!

I'd be curious to see the International figures for CNN, and also Fox.
Whilst it seems to have become a lame duck in the US, CNN seems to be fairly widespread internationally. HLN- never even heard or it.
But as O'Reilly says, domestic US cable audiences seem to prefer Opinion- a bit of a pity because you then tend to pick the channel that caters to your pre-existing opinions.

CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks

Heh...& guess who is #1, eh?

CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks - Media Decoder Blog - NYTimes.com

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks

Heh...& guess who is #1, eh?

CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks - Media Decoder Blog - NYTimes.com

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american public.

and i'll post it again.....why does anyone care which cable network has the highest ratings?

it seems as if some are treating as a sort of sports competition.

whoo hoo!
lots of people watch the same channel i do! fewer people watch other channels!
go team!
yay!

Meanwhile,FoxNews's Ratings have spiked since Chairman Zero declared them an enemy of the state

^ Why are Glenn Beck ratings down this week? | Media Matters for America

^
A better question is why anyone would put credence in Media Matters?

..a notorious left-wing bias outfit.