MKP and why some post should or should not end there.

**Missismiggins** · 09-06-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I find this more repugnant than anything about Holocaust denial,

why?

I've seen ruins of buildings in Dresden that look like they were bombed, but i've also seen enough evidence to convince me of the attempted genocide of the the jewish race.

I believe both occurred.

Why should Dresden bother you more than Auschwitz ?

I do not for one minute suggest that people died in their HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS at
Auschwitz, I only dispute the methods.
I do NOT believe that JEWS were gassed, I believe they died from epedemics such as Typhoid, I have never ever disputed the fact that many died in these camps, I only dispute that there was a general geocide policy, and that the jews have milked this to the extreme, whereby the entire German nation must be frever in shame!

**lom** · 09-06-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I do NOT believe that JEWS were gassed

Of course not, those big owens and all the coal being transported to Auswitch was only for keeping the prisoner barracks warm during the cold winter

**melvbot** · 09-06-2009, 09:49 PM

Heres a clue

**tsicar** · 10-06-2009, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I do NOT believe that JEWS were gassed

Of course not, those big owens and all the coal being transported to Auswitch was only for keeping the prisoner barracks warm during the cold winter

well, that just goes to show that they were nice guys, after all!

**barbaro** · 10-06-2009, 02:11 AM

Missmiggins, I think Sabang's response on page one sums it up.

The source matters, often more than an opinion. No problem with discussing that there are disagreements about the holocaust, and many of the things that occurred, related to it.

As I have said, 60 million died in WWII. Mostly civilian, mostly non-jews. Discssing how the holocaust has been used to advance certain causes is definitely a worthy topic, IMO. So is using it to advance zionism in Israel, and use these horrible acts to silence critics.

As Sabang aptly states:

....you must pick your sources and Issues carefully. Objective sources. Or MKP.

**BrucefarmerFANG** · 10-06-2009, 02:31 AM

Today is Early June , 2009 . All the spluttering about what happened before I was born will not change much . Why not think FORWARDS and enjoy tomorrow ?

**Marmite the Dog** · 10-06-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Aushcwhitz has gradually turned out to be a complete lie!

According to who?

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I do NOT believe that JEWS were gassed

Then you are an ignorant kunt.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Discssing how the holocaust has been used to advance certain causes is definitely a worthy topic, IMO. So is using it to advance zionism in Israel, and use these horrible acts to silence critics.

At least someone has a brain around here.

**chassamui** · 10-06-2009, 10:40 AM

There are some threads that naturally belong in MKP, just as there are some that belong in MKP overflow or the board sewage outflow.
Sometimes MKP is just not low enough for the poorest quality threads.

**Missismiggins** · 10-06-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by BrucefarmerFANG

Today is Early June , 2009 . All the spluttering about what happened before I was born will not change much . Why not think FORWARDS and enjoy tomorrow ?

Thinking forwards would be a nice thing, however, the entire nation of Germany is founded on the Holocaust, every "exceptional law" that defies international law, is based on the holocaust, the German people are slaves to this, and cannot answer back.

I would gladly think "forward" if the laws that were established back in the '40's and again RE ITERATED in the 1990's were repealed!

This is the real disgrace.

The Germans were forced to base their current constitution on lies perpetrated by the zionists, these laws were then written in stone by the allies, these deny the rights of Germaqns to EVEN question the holocaust, to question the vholocaust in Germany today effectively makes you an "enemy of the state" and that is freedom!!

Please go and check article 139 of the German criminal law - it was not repealled in the unification of Germany, it was stipulated that on German reunification, that this law be upheld, and basically provides the power of the allies who "won" the war to determine Germanys rights. The people of Germany DO NOT HAVE THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS US, NOR DO THEY FALL UNDER THE UN NOR DO THEY HAVE REPEAL TO THE UN IN ANY HUMAN RIGHTS CASES!

You think this is acceptable?

**sabang** · 11-06-2009, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

DO NOT HAVE THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS US, NOR DO THEY FALL UNDER THE UN NOR DO THEY HAVE REPEAL TO THE UN IN ANY HUMAN RIGHTS CASES!

What is your source for this? Germany is a member of the UN, and as far as I am aware has the same rights of appeal as any other member.

**DrB0b** · 11-06-2009, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Please go and check article 139 of the German criminal law - it was not repealled in the unification of Germany, it was stipulated that on German reunification, that this law be upheld, and basically provides the power of the allies who "won" the war to determine Germanys rights. The people of Germany DO NOT HAVE THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS US, NOR DO THEY FALL UNDER THE UN NOR DO THEY HAVE REPEAL TO THE UN IN ANY HUMAN RIGHTS CASES!

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

DO NOT HAVE THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS US, NOR DO THEY FALL UNDER THE UN NOR DO THEY HAVE REPEAL TO THE UN IN ANY HUMAN RIGHTS CASES!

What is your source for this? Germany is a member of the UN, and as far as I am aware has the same rights of appeal as any other member.

He's talking absolute nonsense again, he's just copying things from websites and has no idea of what they're referring to and can't be bothered finding out. In his haste to prove his idiocy he can't even tell which particular part of German law he's relying to prove his case. Section 139 of the German Criminal Code states this;

Section 139 Exemption from Punishment for Failure to Report Planned Crimes

(1) If in cases under Section 138 the act is not attempted, then punishment may be dispensed with.

(2) A clergyman shall not be obligated to report what has been confided to him in his capacity as a spiritual counselor.

(3) Whoever fails to report a crime, which he should have reported against a relative, shall be exempt from punishment if he earnestly made efforts to prevent him from committing the act or to avert the result, unless it is a question of:

1. murder or manslaughter (Sections 211 or 212);

2. genocide in cases under Section 220a subsection (1), no. 1; or

3. extortionate kidnapping (Section 239a subsection (1)), hostage taking (Section 239b subsection (1)) or an assault against air or sea traffic (Section 316c subsection (1)) by a terrorist organization (Section 129a). Pursuant to the same prerequisites, a lawyer, defense counsel or physician shall not be obligated to report what was confided to him in this capacity.

(4) Whoever averts the execution or the result of the act other than by report, shall also be exempt from punishment. If the execution or result of the act does not take place due in no part to the contribution of the person obligated to report, then his earnest efforts to avert the result suffice for exemption from punishment.

Why should that be repealed and what on earth does it have to do with the power of the allies to control Germany?

This section of German Criminal law is well known because of a sermon given in 1941 by one of the few German Churchmen, Bishop Clement August Count of galen, with the courage to stand up and denounce the Nazis for their campaign of murder.

My faithful brethren! In the pastoral letter drawn up by the German Hierarchy on the 26th of June at Fulda and appointed to be read in all the churches of Germany on July 6th, it is expressly stated: ‘According to Catholic doctrine, there are doubtless commandments which are not binding when obedience to them requires too great a sacrifice, but there are sacred obligations of conscience from which no one can release us and which we must fulfil even at the price of death itself. At no time, and under no circumstances whatsoever, may a man, except in war and in lawful defence, take the life of an innocent person.’

When this pastoral was read on July 6th I took the opportunity of adding this exposition:

For the past several months it has been reported that, on instructions from Berlin, patients who have been suffering for a long time from apparently incurable diseases have been forcibly removed from homes and clinics. Their relatives are later informed that the patient has died, that the body has been cremated and that the ashes may be claimed. There is little doubt that these numerous cases of unexpected death in the case of the insane are not natural, but often deliberately caused, and result from the belief that it is lawful to take away life which is unworthy of being lived.

This ghastly doctrine tries to justify the murder of blameless men and would seek to give legal sanction to the forcible killing of invalids, cripples, the incurable and the incapacitated. I have discovered that the practice here in Westphalia is to compile lists of such patients who are to be removed elsewhere as ‘unproductive citizens,’ and after a period of time put to death. This very week, the first group of these patients has been sent from the clinic of Marienthal, near Münster.

Paragraph 21 of the Code of Penal Law is still valid. It states that anyone who deliberately kills a man by a premeditated act will be executed as a murderer. It is in order to protect the murderers of these poor invalids—members of our own families—against this legal punishment, that the patients who are to be killed are transferred from their domicile to some distant institution. Some sort of disease is then given as the cause of death, but as cremation immediately follows it is impossible for either their families or the regular police to ascertain whether death was from natural causes.

I am assured that at the Ministry of the Interior and at the Ministry of Health, no attempt is made to hide the fact that a great number of the insane have already been deliberately killed and that many more will follow.

Article 139 of the Penal Code expressly lays down that anyone who knows from a reliable source of any plot against the life of a man and who does not inform the proper authorities or the intended victim, will be punished. . . .

When I was informed of the intention to remove patients from Marienthal for the purpose of putting them to death I addressed the following registered letter on July 29th to the Public Prosecutor, the Tribunal of Münster, as well as to the Head of the Münster Police:

‘I have been informed this week that a considerable number of patients from the provincial clinic of Marienthal are to be transferred as citizens alleged to be "unproductive" to the institution of Richenberg, there to be executed immediately; and that according to general opinion, this has already been carried out in the case of other patients who have been removed in like manner. Since this sort of procedure is not only contrary to moral law, both divine and natural, but is also punishable by death, according to Article 211 of the Penal Code, it is my bounden obligation in accordance with Article 139 of the same Code to inform the authorities thereof. Therefore I demand at once protection for my fellow countrymen who are threatened in this way, and from those who purpose to transfer and kill them, and I further demand to be informed of your decision.

Missismiggins is an absolute buffoon, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about and is absolutely incapable of crawling out of the mire of ignorance in which he wallows, not even for the short time it takes to do some basi fact checking. He likes to think of himself as a lone voice crying in the wilderness when in reality he's just a lone lunatic howling in his bedroom. I've got no idea why anybody takes his tourettic ranting seriously.

**chassamui** · 11-06-2009, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I've got no idea why anybody takes his tourettic ranting seriously.

They don't.

**Nietzsche** · 11-06-2009, 12:03 PM

The Jews are going to milk this for eternity.

**tsicar** · 11-06-2009, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I've got no idea why anybody takes his tourettic ranting seriously.

They don't.

hey, give him a break!
maybe he is onto something there!

certainly has turned into an entertaining thread, no matter what anyone from either side believe.

**Begbie** · 12-06-2009, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by tsicar

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I've got no idea why anybody takes his tourettic ranting seriously.

They don't.

hey, give him a break!
maybe he is onto something there!

certainly has turned into an entertaining thread, no matter what anyone from either side believe.

Entertaining as in watching a car crash or a house burn down ?

Hardly a question of sides when someone posts a lot of crap they've cut and pasted from the dregs of the internet.

**lom** · 12-06-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I am not Paranoid

Yes you are and everyone is watching you.

**tsicar** · 12-06-2009, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by tsicar

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I've got no idea why anybody takes his tourettic ranting seriously.

They don't.

hey, give him a break!
maybe he is onto something there!

certainly has turned into an entertaining thread, no matter what anyone from either side believe.

Entertaining as in watching a car crash or a house burn down ?

.

well, there are always a bunch of spectators at a car crash, or a house burning down, so, yes, i guess there is an entertainment factor..

there is also the fact that there are questions arising out of what we have all been taught about the "holocaust",the bible,sex etc and that both sides of everything at all should be open to debate and /or inquiry.
i have not really followed this thread, nor bothered to open any of the links provided, and neither is any of this stuff of much interest to me, but it seems to me that:
especially on this forum, there have not to date been any taboo subjects nor any restrictions placed upon anybody who wishes to question the validity of any statement ever made, or any "fact" ever presented, except for the one relating to the "big nob" who is above any of all of this for obvious reasons and i am not talking about YOU, dd!

**Missismiggins** · 12-06-2009, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I do NOT believe that JEWS were gassed

Of course not, those big owens and all the coal being transported to Auswitch was only for keeping the prisoner barracks warm during the cold winter

Instead of me ending up double posting have a look at the update in MKP, (which according to one poster, who shall remain nameless (probably works for Gallup or something) reckons most of my topics go - I believe, correct me if I am wrong I have only ever had one topic sent to Ant Robertsons address, and I believe that was a "wrong delivery" as many of the posters involved were by no means "moronic" or "Kiddies" that posted replies, whatever the subject!)

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