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    Who IS this guy.

    Stumbling around from news link to link I came across this interesting stuff.
    Who really knows Obama and what his agenda is.
    Some interesting reading here.
    Obama's "Universal" Service Plan - Part 1
    Training a Socialist Army of World Servers
    By Berit Kjos - September 2008


    Part 2
    Emphasis added in bold letters
    "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."[1] Barack Obama

    "People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve.... I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year...."[2] Barack Obama
    "The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization.... All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new."[3] Rules for Radicals (excerpts here) by Saul Alinsky, the Marxist "organizer" whose disciples mentored Obama.
    Brave New World: "A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned... to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers."[4] Aldous Huxley
    “These are serious times," Barack Obama said recently. "And they call for a serious debate about where we need to take the nation.”[5]
    That's true! So where does he want "to take our nation?" How does his version of "service" fit his vision of CHANGE? And what will it cost in terms of freedom, privacy, taxes, and government control? There's nothing wrong with the old voluntary, personal service to the poor and needy. For centuries, Christian missionaries have given their lives and comforts to serve God among the sick, hungry and dying people in distant parts of the world. Others have shown the same God-given compassion in their own communities. They demonstrated His love, shared His life-saving Truths, and brought hope as well as help to the needy.

    Obama's plan is radically different. Aimed at socialist change, it would raise "religious" boundaries, limit free speech, and ban divisive truths. It must be tolerant of today's amoral values and militantly intolerant toward traditional values. And -- like the tactics outlined in Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" -- it would use deception and "agitation" to create conflict, and the Hegelian/Marxist dialectic process to manipulate minds and establish the planned solidarity.[6]
    Obama learned it all during his years as "Community Organizer" in Chicago.
    The transforming power of "SERVICE LEARNING"
    "Service learning" isn't a new phenomenon. It has been well tested by U.S. educators for more than a decade. What's new is the scale of Obama's plan. His massive system would press students and citizens of all ages in a revolutionary government-led program to change the way we think and relate to each other. A more descriptive term would be mass brainwashing! He outlines it on his official website:
    "Expand Service-Learning in Our Nation's Schools: Obama will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year. He will develop national guidelines for service-learning and will give schools better tools both to develop programs and to document student experience."[7]


    National guidelines? Documenting each server? Such traditional words now have new meanings [8] and requirements unknown to the public. Service learning implies socialist indoctrination through facilitated group dialogue designed to break down barriers, manipulate minds, and build unity in diversity. All members will be monitored and tracked by massive computer networks. And all the personal attitudes, beliefs, values, adaptability, and especially resistance to the planned change -- i.e. all the countless factors that now define a person's "mental health"[9] -- will be recorded within these systems.
    Does that remind you of China's dang'an -- the growing personal data file that follows each Chinese citizen through life?
    It should, because America is following the well-tested footprints of Communist dictators in both China and Russia. As I pointed out in my last article on the Olympics, China is using (and testing) sophisticated American technology to advance its universal and transformational surveillance system. This fact sheds some sobering light on Obama's promise that........ Obama's "Universal" Service Plan - Part 1: Training an army of world servers


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    yawn.

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    American = nutter

    What's new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    American = nutter

    What's new?
    What does that mean? Obama's American so he must be a nutter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    yawn.

    Get back to what you do best. Troll boy, and post count whore.

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    *cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    American = nutter

    What's new?
    What does that mean? Obama's American so he must be a nutter?
    Well done. Gold star for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astasinim
    Get back to what you do best. Troll boy, and post count whore.
    I dont troll, and I have forever seen the ways of my post count addiction!

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    Something slightly scary is going on in America. A good 20% of the country has been seething in hatred, despair and paranoia since Obama was elected. Egged on by hate radio, Dick Cheney and articles floated around like the one in the OP, they sincerely believe that the Obama administration is an army of occupation intent on destroying America. This bunker mentality isn't reserved to illiterate trailer trash. Some of the paranoids have good white collar jobs (and weapons). Obama is a mild reformist. That's all. He's as plugged into Wall Street and the corporate establishment as the last several presidents. I'm not sure why the paranoids are so worked up about Obama except that it must be some sort of dangerous collective mental disorder.

    As columnist Camille Paglia recently put it:

    "There is something dangerous afoot -- an alienation that can easily morph into extremism. With the national Republican party in disarray, an argument is solidifying among grass-roots conservatives: Liberals, who are now in power in Washington, hate America and want to dismantle its foundational institutions and liberties, including capitalism and private property. Liberals are rootless internationalists who cravenly appease those who want to kill us. The primary principle of conservatives, on the other hand, is love of country, for which they are willing to sacrifice and die."

    (Radio rage | Salon)

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    When a Conservative calls for national service, thats Patriotism.
    When a Democrat does (well especially a black Muzzie like Obama) thats Socialist brainwashing.

    Obvious innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo View Post
    Something slightly scary is going on in America. A good 20% of the country has been seething in hatred, despair and paranoia since Obama was elected. Egged on by hate radio, Dick Cheney and articles floated around like the one in the OP, they sincerely believe that the Obama administration is an army of occupation intent on destroying America. This bunker mentality isn't reserved to illiterate trailer trash. Some of the paranoids have good white collar jobs (and weapons). Obama is a mild reformist. That's all. He's as plugged into Wall Street and the corporate establishment as the last several presidents. I'm not sure why the paranoids are so worked up about Obama except that it must be some sort of dangerous collective mental disorder.

    As columnist Camille Paglia recently put it:

    "There is something dangerous afoot -- an alienation that can easily morph into extremism. With the national Republican party in disarray, an argument is solidifying among grass-roots conservatives: Liberals, who are now in power in Washington, hate America and want to dismantle its foundational institutions and liberties, including capitalism and private property. Liberals are rootless internationalists who cravenly appease those who want to kill us. The primary principle of conservatives, on the other hand, is love of country, for which they are willing to sacrifice and die."

    (Radio rage | Salon)
    Quoting Salon is like the Right quoting Front Page magazine.
    Wouldn't lend credence to either rag...

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    camille always gives a good read. bit ott this time, methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Quoting Salon is like the Right quoting Front Page magazine.
    Much better to quote from fine upstanding neutral source like Berit Kjos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    By Berit Kjos - September 2008
    Crossroad

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo
    Something slightly scary is going on in America. A good 20% of the country has been seething in hatred, despair and paranoia since Obama was elected.
    Much worse than when Clinton was elected. Wonder why.

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    talk about pulling a stat out of your butt....20%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo
    Something slightly scary is going on in America. A good 20% of the country has been seething in hatred, despair and paranoia since Obama was elected.
    Much worse than when Clinton was elected. Wonder why.
    Why? Why? Perhaps because Clinton isn't a full-blown socialist like BO.
    Clinton being the disgusting POS that he is does not even come close to the magnitude of ineptitude that is Obama...

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    And lets face it, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.
    I bet people who had misgivings about Hitler at the beginning of his rise to power and his brownshirts got the same sort of flack, ' oh you're just being paranoid'.
    A little suspicion and skepticism on the part of most Germans probably would have gone a long way toward averting a disaster.
    Regardless of the source the question is, are the facts stated in the article true or not.
    I don't have a position on this, I just stumbled across that article and many like it that got me to thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hafiz View Post
    talk about pulling a stat out of your butt....20%?
    From Pew Research: "Americans describing Obama as Socialist has risen from six last September to 13 in February to 20 today."

    Pew Research Center: Obama at 100 Days: Strong Job Approval, Even Higher Personal Ratings

    Fear-mongering pieces of sh*t like Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney sport approval ratings of 19% and 18% respectively.

    Rush Limbaugh, 19% positive approval rating:
    Rush Limbaugh’s Approval at 19 Percent

    Dick Cheney, 18% positive approval rating:
    18%?

    Although it's only a single state, 23% of Texans think that Obama is a Muslim:
    Poll finds 23% of Texans think Obama is Muslim | Front page | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

    Additionally, my estimate is supported by personal observation. I've been working for a Fortune 500 company in a moderate 'swing' state and at least that percentage of people in my company express paranoid nonsense about Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    American = nutter

    What's new?
    I'm sure that there are many Americans who qualify as nutters, but at least they have avoided handing over their country to the Muslims as has happened in Blighty of late. For that reason, I seriously doubt that I shall be returning. Would you fancy some sharia with that pint, mate?
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    I presume this propaganda and smear campaign comes from the same people who claimed John Kerry was too "French looking' to be president.....

    Anything short of outright facism is socialism/communism to these people.

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