Thread: Minorities

I think that if it offends someone, then you shouldn't say it.

I'm not keen on people calling people pakis or niggers or queers.
I think it's totally wrong.
minorities have been shat on for a long time and it's absolutely not the same as calling me a taffy sheep shagger, cos I don't mind (depending on the context)

It's ok for the English to call the Americans seppos or the Americans to call the English twats because there is no imbalance of power there.
That's my opinion anyway sort of.;

What about calling a Pakistani a "paki" in Pakistan or calling somene "an ugly inbred sheep fucking moron" in Glamorgan - surely they aren't minorities there????

BTW - moron is Welsh for carrot, just in case you weren't sure.

This is not a thread about name calling.

I thought the term Pakis was considered offensive only in Britain.
In Australia it's just a shortened way of describing people from Pakistan. Very much the same as saying Brits or Aussies.
How do the people in Pakistan feel about the short version?

Live and let live,Eliminator.

If you feel like you offended someone then just stop.

Originally Posted by Old Croc

I thought the term Pakis was considered offensive only in Britain.
In Australia it's just a shortened way of describing people from Pakistan. Very much the same as saying Brits or Aussies.
How do the people in Pakistan feel about the short version?

Well Thais keep on calling me PAKI,I dont mind.

Some times we go ballistic when an unknown person says,"Hey you mother fucker" but its okay if a friend refers to us with the same word.

It kind of depends on the speaker.

Do you guys know how to read? It's not about offending minorities by calling them names, it's about favoring a minority just because they are a minority.

Originally Posted by Eliminator

Do you guys know how to read? It's not about offending minorities by calling them names, it's about favoring a minority just because they are a minority.

Okay,you dont need to shout.

We 'Shia' people are minorities in Pakistan,and there have been many attacks on our peaceful and religious ceremonies.I witnessed two,a shooting inside the mosque where 60 people died and another where 35 people were killed by so called Wahabis.

So if the situation is serious and the people who are minorities are deprived from there basic rights then they need a favour but if they go out and start rallying(sp?) to snatch the rights of the majorities then I think they need a kick in the ass.

^ why someone is not replying I wanna know Iam right or wrong?

Notice that it was CMN who took this one off topic and this time it was the 2nd post.

Absolutely disgraceful from such a high ranking senior member of the Teakdoor community. I will be contacting the relevant authority, Mr Dog, with this abomination.

Yours Sincerely

Mr NickA

Yes, you're right, Mhz.

Also, the point is, that many minorities need to claim rights which the 'main' culture monopolises exclusively.
Sometimes it is necessary to positively discriminate to get the balance back to where it should be.

That can and does go wrong and backfire, i.e. folks start resenting it. Real or imagined examples abound.

When does granting of minorities more favors or preferential treatment (job placement or hiring) stop. When does it get to the point where the regular bloke has as much chance as the minority person when seeking a job or an advancement.

Or the other way of why can't the minority conform to the majority of society when it comes to flags flown or how a holiday is celebrated or things of this sort. Just because I have an ice cream bar with a certain picture on it, I have to change it because it doesn't conform to their thoughts. It's just gotten too rediculous to bow down to this BS (my view) or is this what should be done?

^ Ejaculator, have you ever head of racial segregation ? do you miss the old days ? or are you just jealous because you don't have access to the same opportunities ? you sound like a trailer trash conservative on welfare. Are you one ?

Originally Posted by Eliminator

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Or the other way of why can't the minority conform to the majority of society when it comes to flags flown or how a holiday is celebrated or things of this sort. ...

Why should a Pakistani fly the Union Jack? Why should a Christian observe Rammadan? Why should I celebrate the Buddha's enlightenment?

Why should children of atheists be made to read bible quotes?

Originally Posted by Eliminator

When does granting of minorities more favors or preferential treatment (job placement or hiring) stop. When does it get to the point where the regular bloke has as much chance as the minority person when seeking a job or an advancement.

Or the other way of why can't the minority conform to the majority of society when it comes to flags flown or how a holiday is celebrated or things of this sort. Just because I have an ice cream bar with a certain picture on it, I have to change it because it doesn't conform to their thoughts. It's just gotten too ridiculous to bow down to this BS (my view) or is this what should be done?

I quite agree with your sentiments even though the majority of posters seem to not comprehend what you are trying to say.

I am sick of jobs being allocated on the basis of religion, race or sex. Why should the Labour party have a "women's list" of candidates? If the women aren't good enough to compete against the men, then they shouldn't be on the list.

Similarly blacks given jobs in certain English local councils just because they are black! They would never have gotten the job if all the applicants were considered, but because some dick head, backward thinking, toss pot thinks that there should be a "proportionate number" of blacks in the council relative to the make-up of the community, the under-qualified black gets the job instead of the white! F-ing crazy. Glad I left the dump to implode into own PC crap heap.

Finally there are a couple of people that get what i'm talking about. Thank you RDN and MeMock.

No problems elimnator - now can you please answer my question

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Eliminator

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Or the other way of why can't the minority conform to the majority of society when it comes to flags flown or how a holiday is celebrated or things of this sort. ...

Why should a Pakistani fly the Union Jack? Why should a Christian observe Rammadan? Why should I celebrate the Buddha's enlightenment?

Why should children of atheists be made to read bible quotes?

Turd troller: Why should a Pakistani fly the Union Jack?

Elimminator: It's because the Pakistani, Indian or whatever has decided to become an English citizen and as such is supposed to pledge that allegence to his or her new country. At least this is what I think it's supposed to be. You must think that the person is there only for what they can get out of the country and hold no such allegence to their new country. If they or you do not believe this way, then why the hell are you or they there? Go on back to you own country.

tt: Why should a Christian observe Rammadan? Why should I celebrate the Buddha's enlightenment?

I'm not saying that anyone should or is being forced to observe someone else's religion. I don't observe any holidays no matter the religion. I don't get killed because of this. What I am saying is, the minority come in and will state that a store should not show models of Christ in the manger or any other religious type shows to the public. Just because, WE want or like to see these types of displays does NOT mean that you have to observe what they represent. I'm quite sure that if any muslim wanted to post something in their store that was religious based that they would be allowed to and if not, they would be screaming their fuckin heads off, that they were not being understood or excepted.

tt: Why should children of atheists be made to read bible quotes?[/quote]


Where is this being done? I think it's the other way around where a Christian is not allowed to read bible quotes.

Damn, you're a thick fuck aren't you?

Yeah but Butch - why are they still a minority when they get given so much.

I know you and I have done this to death but for the benifit of others....

I actually feel like a minority in my own town.

There are jobs I cannot have (even though management have said I would get it if I was black)

If I was unelmpyed and wanted the dole I would get less money because I am not black.

If I advertise for someone to work for me I have to be an equal oppurtunity employer where as Aboriginal corporations can advertise for black people only.

When I went to school I got detention If I didnt bring my notepad and pen or correct book. If an black person forgot they got a new one from the cupboard in front of the whole class.

Black kids get paid to go to school.

At a concert last saturday night I line up for a hamburger being sold from the Argyle Diamond mine tent. $5 for me, free if you were black.

When I go fishing I am allowed to keep one barramundi between the size of 55cm and 80cm. If you are black catch whatever you want and whatever size.

i cannot shoot crocodile, brolgas etc but If I was black.....

I could go on and on but my breakfast is getting cold.

Who is the minority here?

MeMock, the best answer that I can come up with is becasue of all the PC fuckwits that have been running around for the last 30-40 years. Granted, some reform was needed, but not to the extent where it keeps the majority down on their knees. New reforms need to implimented to stop this cycle of the kids growing up thinking the world owes them something because their parents got it. Women having more kids for no other reason but to get more money and benefits and not work. You see it in Australia, England and the US. Hell, why work, I can be on the dole or welfare and make more money than working.

Spot on Elimintaor.

I guess I should clarify that I do not for one minute agree with the atrocities that have happened to the Aboriginals in the generations before me.

I am talking about what I have witnessed in my generation. It's time for a change.